back to article Exploring our way to the source of EMC's mighty VNX Nile

EMC, we have a problem. Your Project Nile has exabyte-plus capacity and is built from EMC's ViPR control/data plane software and VNX arrays. Yet, the biggest VNX is the 8000 at 4.5PB capacity, about 223 times too small. What gives? EMC COO and president David Goulden said in Milan that Project Nile will use ViPR and VNX to …


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  1. Twit

    Marketing baby!

    Since when was marketing reality?

  2. apleszko


    Maybe EMC will come out with a speech that the Exabyte capacity can be reach by combining a VNX on customer's Data center with a 995TB capable external cloud service...

  3. Qwsaz

    To need or not to need

    But, the idea is far not new.

    Implementation might be interesting but more or less useless so far. There is no demand for THAT Big Data yet. Moreover there is no point of feeding single storage tier level for every workload needed.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Why Does This Matter?

    It's just a sideshow anyway. In a year there will be a vague announcement that ViPR technologies will be folded into other EMC efforts and Amitabh & droogs will have skived off to more obscure cloud startups (or back to the loving arms of Mother Microsoft).

  5. Jim O'Reilly

    Nile is two years out!

    Nile is a pre-announcement. It's two years out. In that time, expect 10TB drives and perhaps more. Seagate is working on shingle and HAMR, and may have "2D" storage too. WD is working on technologies as well. Helium-filled drives may have 50% more platters, and they are looking at shingle and HAMR.

    Furthermore, the Nile architecture will involve a lot of head nodes on those VNX arrays. I'm going to predict that exabyte-class systems are almost all Ethernet-accessed Object storage, with localized zones of BlockIO. They won't be jumbo SANs.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      50% more platters

      If helium allows platters to be closer together, it is likely they'll just make the drives thinner while keeping the number of platters constant. That is, after all, what they've always done in the past when the ability to put the platters closer together has presented itself.

      If you can fit 50% more drives in a rack, the outcome is the same, of course.

  6. Kebabbert

    Oracle new ZFS servers

    The new Oracle ZS3 servers sets new world records again, beating NetApp, EMC, IBM, etc

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oracle new ZFS servers

      Thanks Larry!

  7. Choofer

    EMC ALWAYS talk Post Dedupe

    Every EMC sales guy I have ever had the fortune of speaking to (and they knock on my door weekly) always talks values post dedupe. If you go and look at the specs for the datadomain devices for instance:


    Up to 6.6 PB Logical Capacity

    Up to 133 TB Usable Capacity

    It only give you 133TB RAW, but the sales guys can tout a 6.6PB figure. Apply that scale of expected dedupe to the original problem and your 233 racks becomes 12.

  8. cortland

    EMC2 may well have EMC problems

    EMC is an acronym for Electro-Magnetic Compatibility -- and it takes good EMC engineering to keep EMC from equipment such as the EMC Corp.servers pictured down to legal levels.


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