Who's laughing now?
Me :)
Ex-LulzSec bloke to spend a YEAR in the cooler for Sony hack
A former LulzSec hacker has been jailed for a year for ransacking Sony Pictures Entertainment's computer systems. Cody Kretsinger, 25, from Decatur, Illinois - better known to his fellow LulzSec cohorts as "Recursion" - was also ordered to carry out 1,000 hours of community service, and a year of home detention, following his …
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Friday 19th April 2013 13:57 GMT Shagbag
Re: Who's laughing now?
Hector Xavier "Sabu" Monsegur, was revealed in March 2012 as an FBI informer who had been grassing on his former cohorts for 10 months after his arrest in June 2011. Sabu's sentencing was delayed by 6 months in February due to his "ongoing cooperation with the government".
A grass? I bet you he's going to be somebody's bitch when he eventually goes inside "pound-me-in-the-ass-prison". Unless he's that way inclined, he won't be laughing.
If you ask me, they did it all wrong. They should've gone to Chine and lived there and done it - where the local police and politicians really don't give a shit about Hollywood - or the Japz for that matter.
It's pathetic that homegrown talent gets banged up while offshore nothing happens - they laugh in the face of America.
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Monday 22nd April 2013 14:34 GMT Matt Bryant
Re: AC Re: AC danR2 Who's laughing now?
"....something touch a raw nerve?...." Sorry to burst your little homophobic bubble, but no, you provide nothing more than amusement, in keeping with the rest of the Anonyputzs, Dickileaks and other self-deluding Faithful. For you to touch a nerve you would first have to have an original thought, and that would seem as likely as QPR winning this year's Premier League.
".....Methinks the lady, sorry queen, doth protest too much." Ask your mum, when the milkman or the postie's through with her. Don't interrupt her, she needs the money for your school uniform.
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Monday 22nd April 2013 15:46 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: AC AC danR2 Who's laughing now?
@Matt Bryant - when in a hole, it's advisable to not keep digging -the more frothy mouthed you get the more people are going to ask questions. As for my mum, she's a 75 year old widow, so fair play to her if she's still getting banged by the milkman and the postie. And if she's charging it'll certainly help supplement her pension.
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Monday 22nd April 2013 17:19 GMT Matt Bryant
Re: AC AC danR2 Who's laughing now?
".....when in a hole...." LOL! It is very obviously you and your similarly upset skiddie friends, all crying over Recursion's inevitable trip to prison, that are very obviously in a hole seeing as you cannot post anything relevant. No arguments, no justifications, just whiney posts against those that mock your "hero" for the very obvious fool he is. What, did it all get a bit too serious for you when the lulz started getting jail time?
".....the more frothy mouthed you get...." Park your ego, chum, that's me laughing at you, no frothing involved.
".... As for my mum, she's a 75 year old widow...." And she's still paying for you to get through school at that age! Hadn't you better buck up and pass first grade, you can't go on living in her basement for ever.
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Tuesday 23rd April 2013 08:11 GMT Matt Bryant
Re: Re: AC AC danR2 Who's laughing now?
"Matt, ever been trolled before?......" And, as expected, unable to present an argument you fall back on the "it was only a joke, just for lulz, etc" fail. But I expected that from the first post you made as AC - when "trolling for the lulz" it is customary to tag up. Straight back at you, that sound is me ROFLMAO.
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Friday 19th April 2013 15:01 GMT The BigYin
Re: Remind me
Some people downvote if you speak out against whatever they happen to have a hard-on for. Be it Apple, Windows, Linux or Sony; people will just think "This was anti-My Thing" and downvote without caring about content.
Sony engaged in a mass hack of consumer PCs and faced zero censure. If their execs were given a similar punishment as Mr. Ex-Lulz here; you can be others would take note.
But the rich can buy the justice they want. Unlike you and me.
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Friday 19th April 2013 15:24 GMT MJI
Re: Remind me
No it isn't it is because the idiots in the music side did it over the heads of head office. Sony music needs culling not Sony corp.
Sony Computer Entertainment is totally different to the home of Simon Cowell, it is actually respected for a start.
Perhaps people are fed up of people having a go at SCE? (? = A E or J), for the crimes of BMG and Columbia. This is where greed beat the traditional quality thing.
BTW I have no BMG music. Yet I have Naughty Dog products.
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Friday 19th April 2013 20:34 GMT asdf
Re: Remind me
You can map the exact moment when things turned and Sony started to lose its way and it was with the purchase of CBS records in 1988. Media studios make shitty hardware because they care more about protecting their own business models than giving the customers what they want (see Sony for last decade). This is why we say iPod and iPhone today instead of iWalkman and whatever Sony would have called their phone.
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Friday 19th April 2013 16:12 GMT MJI
Re: Remind me punishments
Sony engaged in a mass hack of consumer PCs and faced zero censure. If their execs were given a similar punishment as Mr. Ex-Lulz here; you can be others would take note.
As long as it is BMG staff go ahead, do what you want, just leave the rest alone, most people actually like Kaz and co.
BTW lets blame Simon Cowell, he will do.
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Friday 19th April 2013 21:24 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Remind me
Want to explain your rationale?
I'm guessing you are talking about " First 4 Internet" from a decade ago, so tell us how that directly translates into " Sony execs get for hacking millions of consumer's PCs"
More so that it was only ever on 10,000 CD's the vast majority of which were recalled. So your millions of consumer PC's is at best a couple of hundred, and even then nobody actually got hacked off the back of it...
Isn't it great how idiots believe any old internet myth if it suits their agenda.
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Friday 19th April 2013 13:05 GMT Don Jefe
Re: $600,000?
Agreed. The shittiest part is that his paycheck will be garnished until the fine is paid. Court ordered fines are deducted from your paycheck by your employer before you even get the check. You still have to pay taxes on it too... Fines can't be taken from 'social benefits' though so our wonderful legal system has created another person who has no reason to work and to live off 'the dole' forever.
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Friday 19th April 2013 18:34 GMT MissingSecurity
Re: This is a bad decision
Yet, you are completely content that it was bloody trivial what they did and no one gives a damn. A few PR stuns by Sony and the like and magically everything is better?
5 years for what? Demonstrating that people collectivity don't know shit about tech or security? I wasn't a big LolSec fan, but that fact that people are so willing to target "script kiddies" is more sad in my mind. Glad corporate BS can be bought with a couple of cheap PR words.
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Saturday 20th April 2013 13:33 GMT Roo
Sony owe *us* $1bn, let's see their money first (was Re: This is a bad decision)
No Sony employees have gone to prison or paid any fines for busting a few hundred thousand machines with their rootkit. That fine amounts to about $2500/hr in clean up costs. Allowing about 4 hours labour to repair each PC that Sony broke (that's a very low-ball estimate) that would equate to $10K per machine that Sony owes it's customers for fixing the damage done by their rootkit. IIRC that rootkit infected an awful lot of machines, but let's be kind to Sony here and say it was a mere 100,000 machines they fekked. By this judgement's arithmetic Sony owe at least $1bn to the poor suckers who bought Alicia Key's CDs.
That isn't even taking into account that the damage done to some of those PCs would have cost people lost business too... So that $1bn figure is a *very* low ball estimate, it could easily be 10 times that in practice.
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Monday 22nd April 2013 11:39 GMT Intractable Potsherd
Re: This is a bad decision @BornToWin
It seems your opinion is out of step with most people here.
I have no sympathy with Sony. $600k is an amount their corporates could easily spend in white powder a year, so they lost nothing. They would have done better holding up their hands, doing the coporate equivalent of a wry shrug and saying "Well, we got pwned! It probably serves us right for the whole rootkit thing!" Their reputation would have gone up no end. But no, they have to be vindictive, and ensure that they are about as popular as fart in a space-suit for years to come.
Silly, but that is the world these lunatic corporations have created - no-one should be surprised when people kick back, and really the kickers should be supported by the rest of us.
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Friday 19th April 2013 14:56 GMT Electric Panda
Meanwhile the British LulzSec element will be sentenced to a slap on the wrist and early to bed without any cocoa, with time off for good behaviour and a guilty plea.
If, however, they had poked fun at somebody using Twitter or posted a racist joke on Facebook they'd all be off to Wakefield for 35 years. I'm not sure if the UK justice system is quaint and old fashioned, or just plain broken.
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Sunday 21st April 2013 16:55 GMT curious orange
Re: law is for the poor
Actually that reminds me. Lulzsec and Anon hacked The Sun after the news broke about their hacking the dead girls (I can't remember her name) voicemail. They posted a story about Murdoch having been found dead in his Topiary garden.
Two wrongs don't make a right and so on but that did raise a wry smile.
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Monday 22nd April 2013 08:59 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: law is for the poor
@cannon - "so what about james murdoch, rupert mordoch, piers morgan, any any of the other scum who hacked thousands of ppl's phones & emails?"
The net may be closing on James, since he was in a position to be aware of what was going on. Perhaps the massive pay off to Rebecca Brooks was to encourage her silence, but if it looks likely that she'll get jail time then she may spill the beans to save her own skin. As for Rupe, the slimy old bugger was nowhere near the chain of command at the UK newspaper titles so he's probably safe. The real travesty is Piers Morgan, who should have been jailed for insider dealing.
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Saturday 20th April 2013 20:44 GMT curious orange
skript kiddies
The lulzsec crew above ate not skript kiddies (granted the huge majority of anons are), they were exceptionally skilled hackers - with the possible exception of Topiary who initially was Anon's and latterly Lulzsec's mouthpiece and defacement writer. He was taught the black arts by his friends though.
To date I think around 100 people have been caught for ddosing Sony, The Westborough Church and a few other targets using a tool called LOIC.
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Tuesday 23rd April 2013 15:18 GMT Matt Bryant
Re: TrishaDminus
It always fascinates me that, whenever El Reg posts any story, that there is usually someone that will get all OTT PC and bleeding-heart at the drop of a hat. The chances of Recursion being gang-raped are actually small, especially given the drive to eliminate it in US prisons, and that's before you consider that he is unlikely to go to a max security prison where the real nasties are kept.
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Tuesday 23rd April 2013 17:11 GMT Matt Bryant
Re: Re: TrishaDminus
"The likelihood of rape is not the issue......" So now you admit you're getting on your moral hobbyhorse over a non-issue? Way to make my point, thanks.
"....People slobbering over the prospect it, however, is....." Yes, they're all there at the prison gates handing out lube, right? Maybe you should take a quick read of the many Anonyputz/Lulzsec posts all over the Web where they claimed they were "too smart to get caught", would "never do jail time", etc., etc., then you might realise why people are quite chuffed to see the little scroat go down for a stretch. You forget (because you probably don't work in IT) that many of the posters here are involved in defending their company's and home systems from such tw@s as Cody Kretsinger and may even have suffered attacks from his "crew" of numpties. I doubt if anyone actually would wish anal rape on Recursion (well, not anyone posting here, probably), but I bet there are a fair few that would be happy to trot out the old adage "don't do the crime if you can't do the time".....
"....How clever of you, by the way, to come up with the epithet 'TrishaDminus' ....." Quite genearous, actually, seeing as your posts are pretty much F grade material - no facts, no thought, just bleating.
".....Laugh? I almost did......" Don't worry, I gain much hilarity from your childish and naive efforts.
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Wednesday 24th April 2013 08:52 GMT TrishaD
Re: TrishaDminus
"You forget (because you probably don't work in IT) that many of the posters here are involved in defending their company's and home systems from such tw@s as Cody Kretsinger and may even have suffered attacks from his "crew" of numpties"
The problem with people who think they can win arguments through personal abuse is that they talk through their arses. Yes, I work in IT. I've been in information security for somewhere like 25 years, starting with RACF. Yes, one of the organisations I work for has indeed been hit by Anonymous.
Which was pain in the neck but at least it got me some budget.
Now go wave your dick at someone else.
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Wednesday 24th April 2013 12:06 GMT Matt Bryant
Re: TrishaDminus Re: TrishaDminus
"The problem with people who think they can win arguments through personal abuse is that they talk through their arses....." Cue more glee at the thought of you furiously hammering your keyboard with that one! And besides, you made the assertion that I should go stand in the corner, implying I was a troublesome child, so I suggest you take a look at your own backside in the mirror, Ms Pot, before you start righteously farting at Mr Kettle.
".....Yes, I work in IT. I've been in information security for somewhere like 25 years, starting with RACF....Yes, one of the organisations I work for has indeed been hit by Anonymous....." <COUGH>inside job<COUGH>!
"....Now go wave your dick at someone else." Darling, just because you don't have one to wave, doesn't mean I think any less of you. Well, not any more than your methane-packed posts already lead me to anyway! I suggest you calm down, park the penis envy, and accept that maybe not everyone shares your tender concerns for Mr Kretsinger, and the more you try to lecture the more likely your viewpoint will be held up to ridicule. Whilst I'm sure that your "compassion" makes you a better person than I, I really couldn't give a damn for the future of Mr Kretsinger and would quite happily pack him off to a Turkish prison if it meant his cretinous chums got the message.
/BTW, the Turkish prison ref is an "Airplane!" joke, you might want to add it to your list of material you need to study to make you a more rounded and grounded individual. Enjoy!
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Thursday 25th April 2013 07:51 GMT TrishaD
Re: TrishaDminus TrishaDminus
"I suggest you calm down, park the penis envy, and accept that maybe not everyone shares your tender concerns for Mr Kretsinger, and the more you try to lecture the more likely your viewpoint will be held up to ridicule"
That knee of yours seems to be causing you some trouble.
You see, Mr B, I didnt mention whether Codie K deserved his sentence or not. For the record I'd say that a year is about right. What I raised was the curious tendency of commentators on here to consider that rape in prison might in some way be considered to be appropriate punishment.
Which apparently makes me some sort of bleeding heart liberal, but hey ho....
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Friday 26th April 2013 17:15 GMT Matt Bryant
Re: TrishaDminus TrishaDminus
".....That knee of yours seems to be causing you some trouble....." Dear, dear, darling, I merely carefully chose the barb that I suspected would hit home. After all, you did start on the whole "dick waving" man-hater trip, and that was after your reflexive accusations of childishness. Once again, Ms Pot meet Mr Kettle!
".....For the record I'd say that a year is about right....." Well, on that point we disagree, I would prefer to see a much longer custodial sentence, but then I suspect they cut him some slack when he grassed up all his chums.
"....What I raised was the curious tendency of commentators on here to consider that rape in prison might in some way be considered to be appropriate punishment....." This one is amusing. Not so long ago I had a discussion with a group of women as to why they enjoyed seeing men getting kneed in the jewels in films. If you watch men and they see a bloke getting kneed there then they usually flinch in sympathy, but women shriek with glee. I suspect a man-hater like yourself probably rewinds and replays every such incident. It seems you are quite happy to see men punished with violence to their private regions, but then get on your moral hobby-horse when men suggest anything you decide to dislike. Yet more hypocracy from Ms Pot.......
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