The scary thing is that they allow people like that to breed.
Tennessee bloke quits job over satanic wage slip
A Tennessee born-again Christian has quit his job after receiving a wage slip marked "666" despite previously warning his employers of a serious aversion to the Number of the Beast. Walter Slonopas, 52, toiled as a maintenance worker at Contech Casting in Clarksville until bosses issued him a Form W-2 bearing the satanic …
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Friday 8th February 2013 12:32 GMT JohnG
Re: @AC 10:36
"Just fire the ignorant idiot. He's a hazard to the corporation."
The bloke may be a bit weird in his religious belief but there was no suggestion that his employers were dissatisfied with his performance and I fail to see how requesting a different payslip number makes him "a hazard to the corporation". That the number in question was restored to him twice suggests that some at the company were engaging in deliberate provocation, which is probably a hazard to the corporation. What happens when someone thinks it would be funny to give black employees references containing the initials "KKK" or "SS" for the jewish?
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Saturday 9th February 2013 01:30 GMT Marcelo Rodrigues
Re: @AC 10:36
Because "666" was just a serial number. It wasn't picked to make fun of him.
If the system spits out a code, like a verification digit, and it happens to be "kkk something" he wold have to be extremely stupid to think "oh, my! Not the KKK! Not them!"
It is just a bloody serial number! Get over it.
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:19 GMT John Hawkins
Agree. Bound to upset a bean counter or two if they have to change a number.
He might be a nutter, but he should be entitled to be one if he wants. We could get into some circular (ish?) reasoning here by noting that by forcing the chap to use a standardised number, the wage system in question really is showing signs of becoming the Beast (or Skynet or EU or whatever).
Definitely a subject be discussed after an evening at the pub; more fun that way.
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Friday 8th February 2013 14:34 GMT Robert E A Harvey
No big deal
A really good manager could handle it.
"Mr Slonopas, we need you. This is going to keep happening to people, and you are obviously a good and prayerful god-fearing person. I would far rather it happened to you, because the armour of your faith means that it cannot harm you at all. Please stay, and be part of our fight against Satan and all his deciepts. Just imagine, once you quit this must happen to someone with far less faith than you, and how awful that might be."
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Friday 8th February 2013 10:40 GMT Shasta McNasty
FFS
They need to remove people like him from the gene pool.
FFS it's a NUMBER and it's only meaning is to mark the increment between 665 and 667.
13 is also a number that people have an issue with - although not scorn upon by random religions (at least none that I know of).
Strangely, people seem to have the opposite opinion of 69...
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Friday 8th February 2013 12:03 GMT VinceH
Re: FFS
"13 is also a number that people have an issue with - although not scorn upon by random religions (at least none that I know of)."
Given the reason the number is considered bad luck lies in a Christianity story, I've always assumed it's predominantly in Christian societies that people treat it as such - although not necessarily by followers of that religion, IYSWIM.
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Friday 8th February 2013 19:05 GMT Johan Bastiaansen
Re: FFS it's a NUMBER
I think you completely fail to understand the meaning of the words "understand" and "meaning". It implies an acknowledgement of other people. If 666 is just a number to you, but very important to him, than it would be a no-brainer to accommodate him on it.
You're a manager aren't you?
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Friday 8th February 2013 15:15 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: FFS
"Are the people on the 14th floor really fooled into believing that they aren't actually on the 13th?"
Hehe. Good observation. Next time I see a superstitious looking type on the not-really-14th floor of a building or seat row on a plane (some also lack a row 13), I'm taking a mental note to make a comment to the effect out loud. :)
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Friday 8th February 2013 15:26 GMT VinceH
Re: FFS
"Next time I see a superstitious looking type on the not-really-14th floor of a building or seat row on a plane (some also lack a row 13), I'm taking a mental note to make a comment to the effect out loud. :)"
Have a thumbs up from me, because that's now officially on my list of things to do just to annoy others. :)
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Friday 8th February 2013 22:55 GMT Daniel B.
Reminds me ...
Plaza Carso, which can be basically described as "Slim Enterprises Plaza" (yes, *that* Carlos Slim, the richest man in the world) has some buildings with a 13th floor. The plaza was built recently. A certain company from that group has the 13th floor unoccupied ... because most people are superstitious.
OTOH, another company has a 13th floor elsewhere, and they do occupy it. Nobody cares about the superstition stupidity.
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Friday 8th February 2013 10:43 GMT Anonymous Coward
helldesk
True story : the guy in the IT department who scored the phone extension 666 is envied by all. Right now helpdesk is being reorganised, and he'll have to give up his extension... all calls for the support will have to made to the number of the beast. So people like this might be able to procreate, but they sure as hell won't be getting any IT support in our part of the world.
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Friday 8th February 2013 12:03 GMT Kobus Botes
Re: helldesk
Man! I could have done that!. I had a user who was forever complaining about her number ending on 666. Every time something untoward happened to her (like contracting 'flu, stubbing her toe, getting a parking ticket, etc.) I got a call to have her number changed, as she was being punished/attracted bad luck because of that devillish number.
I managed to avoid changing her number, as we had used all our allotted numbers and changing it would incur all sorts of unmerited expenses (changing business cards and other printed matter, changing fax numbers, et cetera).
Swopping her number for mine would have had all sorts of positive consequences, looking back. (Can I go back into the past?).
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Friday 8th February 2013 13:31 GMT Peter Simpson 1
Re: helldesk
I can top that. In uni, my phone number (Centrex exchange, 5 digit numbers) was 6-6666. By the end of the first semester, we had removed the bells due to the large number of drunk-dialled night-time calls.
And anyway, Revelation says the Mark is supposed to be on the forehead or right arm, IIRC. So a literal interpretation (isn't that what these chaps are demanding?) would mean that phone numbers, W-2 forms, employee and student ID badges should be quite acceptable.
//what else?
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:28 GMT Lee Dowling
616 has a good claim, being on contemporary documents at the time specifically as the number of the beast.
Anything "to the power", that's probably just nonsense. The history of basic exponentiation goes back to the Babylonians, but there's little evidence of it being common knowledge or used in the way we think (i.e. they probably only used it for "square" or "cubic" powers) until the 1500's. And you can sort of see why - there's no need to use it when it's just a short-hand for repeated multiplication, and the ones you're most likely to do if you're applying practical maths are squares and cubes, which have real, physical meanings, and they barely need a shorthand. Hell, throughout my maths degree I barely used higher powers than that for 99% of the time - there's really no need to.
But it's all a load of tosh anyway because nobody can agree on the number and so, short of just blacklisting all numbers, we're stuck with it. If your number is 666 and you resign, it says more about you than your boss's automated system. I also think the same about anyone who makes a fuss about 13 and similar numbers. Life's too short. How the hell does your God expect to do maths if you can't use half the numbers?
And even if you DO believe that, surely fear of the number is just the result of terrorism - being told not to do something because they are associated with something bad. And fear of an abstract concept, like a swastika (an ancient religious symbol, which I still say should have been used as the official symbol to demark toilets if you REALLY wanted to kill its use by right-wing sects), or a number is surely something that's "to be overcome" or whatever if you're a stout religious person.
I honestly see no difference between this and Ron Weasley not being able to say Voldemort. And that's a kids book, for goodness sakes.
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:27 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: "667 lives on the other side of the road"
Not if The Beast is another bloody foreign benefits scrounger occupying yet another flat in a Hackney tower block whist decent middle class white kids from the home counties studying to become chartered accountants can't even get onto the council waiting list! The Daily Mail will be all over the story tomorrow, and how...
Ooh, it makes you want to shake your fist at the wall and grimace.
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Friday 8th February 2013 13:41 GMT Gerry Doyle 1
Re: 664
A friend of mine lives in a number 664 and is indeed the neighbour of the beast - not only is the house number 666, but the house is occupied by the parish priest and named St. Anne, which is pretty much a neighbour of an anagram for your man...
The reg on the car my other half drives ends with 30666, which is pretty cool.
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:36 GMT Jay Holmes
Re: new god required
Coming soon GOD V2.0
This upgrade replaces GOD V1.0/1.3.0 and V1.65
Unfortunately due to the way religion works, you will have to unistall your current GOD version and install the newest version (GOD V2.0). Don't forget to upgrade your associated software S.A.T.A.N. (Security Agent Transfer And Networking)
As this version is currently untested and unproven in the real world, there are likely to be numerous bugs that we havent identified as yet.
To report a suspected bug, please adopt a kneeling position with your hands clasped firmly together, close your eyes and explain your problem starting with "Dear GOD..."
I assure you someone is listening and as long as your problem doesnt interfere with any current dogmatic process and isnt to do with personal gain (lottery wins, ex wife death etc etc) then it should be fixed in time for your funeral
Regards
A. Ngel
Heaven/Hell Support Desk
Contact: kneelandpray@pearlygates.net
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Saturday 9th February 2013 09:12 GMT jake
@Jay Holmes (was: Re: new god required)
"Don't forget to upgrade your associated software S.A.T.A.N. (Security Agent Transfer And Networking)"
Actually, SATAN is short for "Security Administrator Tool for Analyzing Networks". Was/is an interesting kludge, back in the day. I still use bits & pieces of it as part of my tool-kit.
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Saturday 9th February 2013 13:17 GMT Jay Holmes
Re: @Jay Holmes (was: new god required)
Yeah I know, but I was thinking more along of the double meaning of Secure transfer as in if you are a bad boy you get a nice agent of the devil to help you with your secure transfer to do some networking in everlasting torture!!!!
See just because I dont pay attention in class, doesnt mean I cant make shit up on the fly lol
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:13 GMT g e
Born Again'ers
Used to work with a BAC. Radio 1 in the UK also had a daytime show in which there was a 'thing' they did called 'Praise the Lard' which was probably something to do with fatties or diets or god knows what.
Anyway one day BAC guy hears (mis-hears) 'Praise the Lard' coming out of the radio and spontaneously cries out 'HALLELUJAH!'
Thank you BAC guy, for providing a moment which, for the rest of my life, will roundly confirm Atheism as the path for me.
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Friday 8th February 2013 16:20 GMT Armando 123
Re: Born Again'ers
What gets me is how europe looks down on all the born-agains in America (and quite right, too, I do as well), but they all got here because Europe dumped them on us. Heck, even the wankers at Plymouth Rock were kicked out of Holland because the Dutch couldn't stand them (the Dutch, mind you!) and were dumped at the cod fishing grounds to the north because the people at Jamestown, Virginia, didn't want them around.
Not that you'll read that in an official public school history book.
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Saturday 9th February 2013 03:23 GMT Yet Another Anonymous coward
Re: Born Again'ers
The puritans left England because they wanted to persecute - they wanted to live somewhere where they could have absolute control over the way people lived and worshipped.
And the first place they went to try this was Amsterdam ????
If that was the IQ they started with - I think America has done rather well!
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Saturday 9th February 2013 06:02 GMT Irony Deficient
Puritan emigration: a favourite national myth?
Verily I say unto you, Yet Another Anonymous coward, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
Should the real reason for Puritan emigration ever be of interest to you, you could begin your investigation from this comment.
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:20 GMT Anonymous Coward
Diddums
Sorry to hear his faith in Jesus was too weak to deal with this trauma and doubt the protection his lord was providing, not to mention St Christopher, whose image was probably present oh his medallion...
I recommend he prays harder so that next time he's confronted by something like this, he can do his god proud and finally prove his faith.
And if he can't, why not convert to Islam and not worry about that particular number any more? Simples.
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:27 GMT Anonymous Coward
Get my behind Satan?
Funny about that - poor old imaginary Satan gets told to get behind thee (gotta say the middle english latanistic biblical words - or he won't understand) , and the fucker just won't stay put....
Better grovel them words profusely and non stop...
Speaking of stupidity fuelled by bullshit.
LOST WORLDS: THE HISTORY OF THE DEVIL
Broadcast Date: Sunday 9 September 2007
Channel: Free to Air / SBS
Broadcast Time: 7.30 pm
Classifications: Drama, PG (CC) WS
Timeslot Duration: 60 mins
LOST WORLDS: THE HISTORY OF THE DEVIL
The notion of the devil does not originate in the Bible, as many may think. In the Old Testament, Satan is just another one of God's servants.
It is in Iran that the religious teacher Zarathustra simplified things, ending up with only two - a God of the Good and a God of Evil. This belief then spread throughout the Middle East.
In the Jewish world, Satan, God's obedient servant, was gradually replaced by Saden, God's eternal enemy.
The Greeks had an underworld called Hades. It didn't have fire, but the valley outside Jerusalem, called Hell, did. In Hebrew it was known as Gehenna, a smouldering rubbish heap to which fire was regularly set. That is where bodies of executed criminals were burned.
Gehenna was the inspiration for the Christian hell. (From Ireland, in English) (Documentary)
Satan: "You mean I am completely FAKE? Oh fuck it - I was having such a good time too."
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:35 GMT jai
wrong number
wasn't there a bit on QI where they explained that 666 isn't actually the right number and that technically it's something like 616 or something that's the real number of the beast, according to the original texts?
so not only is this guy a doofus, he's also completely wrong in his facts
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:44 GMT Spotthelemon
wrong number?
some of the earliest surviving revalation manuscripts (Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus & Papyrus 115) have the number as 616.
One of the most common interpretations of the number is that it is a reference to Nero, emperor at the time revelations was written. Nero Caesar translated from Greek to Hebrew enumerates to 666 however when translated from Latin to Hebrew it enumerates as 616
either way, I don't think Nero is a major threat to christianity these days
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Friday 8th February 2013 12:52 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: wrong number?
"however when translated from Latin to Hebrew it enumerates as 616"
Reminds me of a guide in Israel explaining that his name "David" looks like TIT in Hebrew letters. In Hebrew spelling you have mostly to guess at the vowel sounds - unless it is a dictionary which then includes lots of scattered dots to indicate what the vowel sound should be.
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Friday 8th February 2013 13:05 GMT Jediben
Re: wrong number?
The MAFIAA and chums would disagree.
All true God-fearing Americans who love capitalism and the persuit of $$$ would suggest that Nero (Burning ROM) would be directly opposed to their ideals, allowing heathens to make EVIL ILLEGAL CURSED COMMIE COPIES of their intellectual property.
Ergo, Nero is still a huge threat to Christianity!
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Friday 8th February 2013 11:49 GMT Arachnoid
Ooh, it makes you want to shake your fist at the wall and grimace.
Shirley if he believes in such things he should think that its a test of his faith........
Anyhow AC dont be banging on my wall, I might hear you and take a fence then ther would be Hell to pay.......and it wouldnt be just two obols either.
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Friday 8th February 2013 12:18 GMT TeeCee
How to improve the world.
1) Build a very large asylum.
2) Ask Christians; "Do you really believe any of the rabid, ficticious waffle in the Book of Revelations?"
3) Anyone who answers "yes" gets a rubber room all to themselves.
There are probably quite a few other bits that should be taken with a pinch of salt, but anyone who actually believes that bollocks really is away with the fairies and should be forced to have others do their thinking for them.
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Friday 8th February 2013 14:33 GMT DJO
Re: How to improve the world.
My personal opinion of the Book of Revelations is that it supports the hypothesis that recreational chemicals were in common use in those times...
Let's see, 40 days and nights wandering a desert with nothing to eat except the occasional cactus or mushroom. Draw your own conclusions.
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Friday 8th February 2013 12:35 GMT GitMeMyShootinIrons
Playing Devils advocate...
Lets say his rampant belief in fairy tales is rational and assume that these deities are at work.
Rather than assuming that this is the devils work him being given the magic number for the Australian fuzz, perhaps it is Satan's opposite number trying to either send a message or prank the poor sod.
After all, we know his holiest has a great sense of humour (e.g. earthquakes, tsunamis, promoting religious fundamentalism, the X Factor etc...)
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Friday 8th February 2013 13:49 GMT Scarborough Dave
Just start the numbering from 1000 or 10000 for Payroll
I have seen this issue a few times in the UK with Christians (666,333) and religious and non religious people with number 13 and people from Asia (basically any number with a 4, 12, 6).
So anything that tracks an employee I generally start from 1000 or 10000 - I know some of the phobia's to certain numbers seem silly and illogical to some of us - but some of these people are genuinely scared as though the system or someone is hexing them - it is easier and cheaper to just adapt deployment settings in the long run.
I can remember installing a phone system where the owner wanted the internal phone system starting with a 6 - and yes you guessed it he wanted 666 (because people would think twice about the need to call him with a trivial matter before they could solve it themselves - I have to say it did work.)
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Friday 8th February 2013 14:31 GMT McWibble
Re: But he got this number supposedly randomly, twice?
If he got the number twice, I suspect it would be because if you were to list all the employees, he'd be 666th on the list. Basically, even if he does get a different employee number, he's still the 666th.
The same applies to anyone who has an irrational fear of the number 13. If you've ever stayed on the 14th floor of a hotel, you're really on the 13th floor.
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Friday 8th February 2013 14:40 GMT James O'Shea
useful idiocy
One of my cousins used to live at an address where the number '36' was quite prominent. It was also just down the street from the local Watchtowerite (or Mormon, or possibly some other brain-dead collection of misfits, it's been a while and I forget exactly which group) infestation. He'd get lots and lots and lots of them attempting to peddle their nonsense, right up until the day when he pointed to the address number and asked 'Does three sixes have any significance for you?' That sonic boom you may have heard was the idiots departing, never to return. Ah, bliss.
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Friday 8th February 2013 14:49 GMT bearded bear can
Good riddance?
In most countries in the civilized world discriminating against religion would incur law suits and recompense. Fuck that! I work for a medium sized software company. What we do requires a certain level of intelligence. A person showing up at a job interview and stating that he believes that a book written quite some time ago is the words of God, simply does not qualify as intelligent. Therefor he is unhireable. He should seek happiness and fulfillment elswhere.
Am I right or am I right?
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Sunday 10th February 2013 00:47 GMT bearded bear can
Re: Good riddance?
> Surely the Holy book of K&R should still be revered? - even if you do use C++
Indeed. That is the old testament though. When I first joined the order of the Jedi, Bjarne Stroustrup made me place my hand in The C++ Language, by himself, and swear that I would delete everything created with new, as free releases the mallocs of old.
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Friday 8th February 2013 22:01 GMT Another Eldo
Re: Good riddance?
Yes all people of religious faith are complete mornons. None of us ever struggles to think beyond the myopic strawmen that you create to define us. Obviously, discrimination on the grounds of a personal belief system is utterly reasonable and you aren't a halfwit without the ability to empathise with people of slightly differeing viewpoints.
Whether anyone who would want to work with someone who is so obviously inflexible and unable to empathise with other people is another matter...
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Sunday 10th February 2013 18:24 GMT Yet Another Anonymous coward
Re: Good riddance?
> a halfwit without the ability to empathise with people of slightly differeing viewpoints.
Indeed there is no right and wrong answer and always two sides to every arguement.
My point of view was that Li-ion batteries were too unreliable to fit to a 787 but my colleagues assured me that they had prayed and truly had faith that they would be safe - so in a spirit of ecumenical tolerance I went along with their plans.
Now I hope to battle those people in health and safety who believe in this dis-proven "theory" of gravity and insist on safety railing.
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Friday 8th February 2013 15:30 GMT Sorry, "Sorry that handle is already taken" is already taken.
Re: 666
Revelation 13:18 - "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
The wording differs slightly in different versions of the Bible (King James, New International, etc), but it's there.
Or have I missed some very subtle trolling here? ;-)
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Friday 8th February 2013 19:17 GMT Herby
Simple solution...
Put a '$' in front of it. When the guy says something like "I can't accept a payment like that", then you will know if he is REAL stupid.
So, quitting was the best solution for everyone. Let's hope he doesn't sue the company for some reason. Given that lawyers exist, I won't hold my breath.