
"Hell Fire Belief"
...crazies...
[steps quietly away]
The week's chatter has provided fewer gems than usual and a lot more "Look at this great new product I launched at CES", but luckily you can always rely on Linus Torvalds to come out with a zinger. The Linux kernel developer pulled no punches when Red Hat's Mauro Carvalho Chehab tried to pass off a bug in the kernel as …
"If a change results in user programs breaking, it's a bug in the kernel. We never EVER blame the user programs"
Following from Dr Mouse about software deprecation, what if a user programme was exploiting a live bug and a kernel patch fixed the erroneous behaviour - can we blame the user programs then?
Given that Elop's Spanish isn't up to an interview, it was conducted in English.
As such, Nokia retain an English transcript.
That transcript is here, hosted by WMPowerUser.
"Anything's possible"? He never said it. Or anything remotely like it.
" I began giving these away as presents to select people – government employees, police officers, cabinet minister’s assistants, girlfriends of powerful men, boyfriends of powerful women "
...what about the powerful men's boyfriends and the powerful women's girlfriends??
They changed the hash – and although largely transparent to userland, it did break GlusterFS. Maybe other things too?
So, if you change the kernel and something in userland no longer works, that's a bug in the kernel right? Even Linus seems to agree, at least when it comes to PulseAudio.
I'd really like to see Linus drop the F-bomb on the guy that made that change.
> I'd really like to see Linus drop the F-bomb on the guy that made that change.
I'd really like to see Linus drop the F-bomb on the guy that made ext4. It's really not good on laptops[1] that lose power unexpectedly...
Vic.
[1] More specifically, I don't think it's appropriate to run ext4 as a root FS on any machine that's not going to be attended by an experienced sysad. ext3 would almost always clean itself up, even if it bellyached while it did it. ext4 drops you to a root shell and expects you to sort it out yourself - an annoyance for me, a show-stopper for others :-(
Actually, I quite like the idea of following the students when at school. The school is responsible for the kids and if a student says he goes to the bathroom but doesn't and goes somewhere and has an accident, I'm sure the parents would come and say "How come you let him go to <insert dangerous place> ?". It's far less invasive than cameras too.
By the same extension I guess you support state RFID tracking of children when at home then? Using your same story:
" The parent is responsible for their kids and if a child says he goes to the park but doesn't and goes somewhere and has an accident, I'm sure the social services would come and say "How come you let him go to <insert dangerous place> ?". It's far less invasive than cameras too."