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A hacking attack by self-proclaimed members of Anonymous has uncovered highly disturbing data relating to a rape case in Steubenville, Ohio, that has garnered national attention. In August a 16-year-old girl was allegedly assaulted at a series of parties in the Ohio town. Numerous pictures, tweets, and videos were broadcast of …


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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    the police dont care about rape

    here are a list of "real" serious crimes that police care about:

    . smoking weed

    . not saying yes master quick enough when they tase you

    . knowing your rights

    . supporting terrorists (aka any activity where the cop sees you and wants to practice breaking your ribs)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: the police dont care about rape

      you forgot pulling people over for speeding tickets

      and pulling them over for not wearing their seat belt(well that happens frequently around me)

      The above 2 also come with a car search for drugs if you are a minority

      1. Matt Bryant Silver badge

        Re: Re: the police dont care about rape

        "you forgot pulling people over for speeding tickets

        and pulling them over for not wearing their seat belt(well that happens frequently around me)

        The above 2 also come with a car search for drugs if you are a minority"

        I'm amazed you can drive at all with that massive chip on your shoulder.

        1. Rampant Spaniel

          Re: the police dont care about rape

          I'm lucky our local plods are alright, at least with locals. I did get pulled once for no seatbelt (on a motorbike, go figure) but another officer I knew turned up and I got a warning about high winds (just fyi I wasn't speeding etc, I guess he was having a bad night). Mostly I've found being polite and respectful gets you out of tickets, even when you deserve them. Having said that, cops vary massively!

    2. Eddy Ito

      Re: the police dont care about rape

      Wait, I thought knowing your rights was supporting terrorists or is that exercising your rights. It's getting harder to tell without a program.

      1. Field Marshal Von Krakenfart

        Re: the police dont care about serious crime

        Fixed the title for you (but not the missing apostrophe).

        The police don't care about serious crime, because dealing with serious crime means dealing with serious habitual criminals, the sort (male) when questioned about the ladies handbag they are carrying respond with a glasgow kiss.

        They care even less about really serious crime because that means dealing with really serious criminals who usually have shootey things and are prepared to use them to protect their multi-million stash of drugs.

        The really serious criminals also do their homework, "Good evening officer plod, how's Mrs Plod, isn't she marvellous the way she helps out in the old peoples home every Tuesday night, and how's young plod getting on in St Chlamydia's primary school, the teachers are great aren't they. Now what do you want to talk to me about?"

        Much easier to give out speeding tickets and operate checkpoints looking for motorists without tax and/or insurance. And it generates revenue for the state as well.

  2. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge

    > assaulted at a series of parties

    A SERIES of parties? How? Are there many parties doing rape in town at any given night? Do they pass drugged-up girls around? WTF??

    Also looks like at this point in time the evidence will be so tainted / potentially shooped that it might well be thrown out. Unless someone fesses up.

    1. Annihilator

      Sadly, yes, by the accounts she was drugged and carried from party to party

      1. Anonymous Coward

        It's rather sad and sickening.

        I'd shoot them if they did that to me.

        1. Tom 13

          Re: I'd shoot them if they did that to me.

          And I'd acquit you if they brought you up on charges after you did so.

          1. TimeMaster T

            Re: I'd shoot them if they did that to me.

            It would be better to invoke Nullification. Nullification says that the Jury could not in "good conscious" find the defendant guilty and are invoking their Constitutionally granted authority to nullify the law, ignore the evidence and Judges instructions.

            US Judges and Prosecutors HATE this clause and don't tell the Jury about it anymore. It used to be part of the instructions given to the Jury before deliberations.


  3. skeptical i

    Disgusted, yes. Surprised, no.

    Not all college students, "student" athletes, and frat boys are spoiled brats who grew up never hearing "No, don't do that" or feeling the consequences of their actions but enough of them are that this shit continues. Hangin's too good fer 'em.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Disgusted, yes. Surprised, no.

      I am not surprised on more than one level.

      As long as as there is a "dating queue" for every small deity on the college/high school football team that shit will continue. The poor girl life will be ruined, she will get nothing from the local "justice" either. However, that is not the most disgusting part. The most disgusting part is that another one will readily take her place amidst the crowd which will hang out with jocks for that fleeting chance to date one. The fact that her predecessor was drugged and gang raped will not deter any of the fresh aspirants for "jock date" position.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Disgusted, yes. Surprised, no.

        Agreed. But we're not supposed to notice stuff like that and instead become holier than thou, protect our innocent virgin angels. Acts like this rarely happen in isolation - 'The Rape Crew' moniker should have given EVERYONE nearby a clue earlier.. Don't get me wrong, these animals should get some 'serious' justice, just let us not also forget our society accepts (encourages?) girls going after violent thug alpha male types..

    2. The Alpha Klutz

      Re: Disgusted, yes. Surprised, no.

      not all of them are, just 90% with the other 10% "just following orders" so thats okay then.............................

      1. Rampant Spaniel

        Re: the police dont care about rape

        Yup, the same society that pays college football coaches multimillion dollar salaries. One university just lost nearly 2 million bucks in a year just on the football team. Another school just spent 5 million on a sports field, the same school system that could only afford teachers for 9 days a fortnight last year. Just to hammer it home they had some interviews with the students about the field, I guess the football team was off at a party so they got the girls soccer team, one comment was "now we don't have to worry about getting dirty". Nothing about not breaking ankles in holes so it can't have been bad before.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    As well as those directly involved, I hope those who just stood by and watched are also prosecuted - particularly any who recorded the rape.

    At the very least, they should be named & shamed.

    1. taxman
      Big Brother

      But hopefully it will be those recordings that will be found and bring to justice those.....sorry, can't call them people.......<insert word(s) of choice>. Without that evidence it's easy for justice to get buried by those with influence.

    2. WatAWorld

      accessories and accomplices

      Accessories and accomplices are libel for the same range of criminal penalties as the person who committed the original crime.

      So yes, let us hope they go after the closed mouthed people practicing a civilian version of the thin blue wall of silence (aka the thin blue wall of obstruction of justice).

      But that may not happen, perhaps because it would set precedents that could be used against the thin blue wall of silence.

      1. Tom 13

        Re: accomplices are libel

        I think the word you are looking for is 'liable', as in this instance if it was 'libel' they would be innocent of all charges. The meaning of particular words is important.

  5. nuked

    Well done Anonymous, I suppose

    1. Gordon 10

      Maybe well done maybe not

      I know your well done was probably a grudging one but they may have caused more harm than good.

      If the rozzers can't now get provable pre-hack copies of all the evidence the defence has all the material they need to get the evidence thrown out as tainted.

      In which case it's more like Anon you utter fuckwits.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Maybe well done maybe not

        I see your point, but it's also true that more might be done now it's in the spotlight.

        Either way I hope something does get done, though I'm not so sure I care about *how* it is done in this particular case.

  6. asdf

    above the law

    In football country Lady Justice only peeks out from her blind fold when she hears the words football and program in the same sentence. Alma Mater red neck tribal behavior at its worst.

  7. JoshOvki

    Here say?

    So without any real evidence Anonymous are attacking two people?

    1. JoshOvki

      Re: Here say?

      (Not trying to say the guy doesn't come across as a douche mind)

    2. Black Betty

      Re: Here say?

      Nope. Releasing evidence that implicates a hell of a lot more than two people, and supposedly didn't exist according to police/prosecutors.

      BTW its hearsay.

      Are you aware:

      That one of the parties where the girl was raped was hosted by the original prosecutor, and that the prosecutor's son was one of the alleged participants?

      That the prosecutor disuaded the girl and her parents from pressing charges?

      That she did not recuse herself until six weeks after the original allegation, and that by the time she did, almost no evidence remained.

      That the accused were already known as "The Rape Crew" BEFORE this assault took place.

      That the ONLY members of the football team who were suspended were the two who developed consciences (possibly quite gulity ones) and spoke up.

      1. WatAWorld

        Re: Here say?

        I think you can post links in the Reg. Presumably you know the local papers. I'd like to read more.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Here say?

        Bloody hell, how depressing those details are. As a foreign johnny my USA is composed from films: seems like for small-town I should be thinking "Mississippi Burning" mixed with "Benny's Video" plus a dash of "Deliverance"?

        (or a mirror image version of the Robin Hood murders: different sort of accusees, same sort of ghastly prosecution apparatus)

      3. Richard 12 Silver badge

        Re: Here say?

        Woah. If any of that about the prosecutor is true, when is she being locked up for gross misconduct in public office, then put on trial for her part in the alleged rape?

        Or are judges and prosecutors simply above the law in the USA?

        1. John Gamble
          Big Brother

          Re: Here say?

          Prosecutors and judges do occasionally get put on trial, but it's a high bar. The presumption is that they are operating in good faith, and it's hard to prove otherwise. No one involved in the Rolando Cruz debacle (the case that started the suffered any lasting consequences.

          And just to make this properly international, this is hardly an exclusively American phenomenon, e.g.:

          "It is better that some innocent men remain in jail than the integrity of the English judicial system be impugned."

          Lord Denning, 1988

          1. John Gamble

            Re: Here say?

            Sorry about the editing.

            s/(the case that started the/(the case that started the innocence investigations)/


          2. Rufusstan

            Re: Here say?

            Its rare that something hits hard enough that I sign up just to comment, but its the degree to which those in authority here colluded to simply make this disappear that utterly astounds me.

            It will be very interesting to see if the publicity generated by these revelations has any actual impact.

            I also have to put the Denning quote into context as on the surface it puts the English system in an equally bad light. At the time he made it, the old boy was touching 90, and had been retired for years.

            In fact he had to retire due to a stream of increasingly erratic comments and judgments, so while he said it, he was in no position to put it into practice, and similar comments had ended his career.

          3. Field Marshal Von Krakenfart
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            Re: Here say?

            Denning's comment needs to put in the proper context, he seems to be a bit of a fuckwit more concerned with protecting the system that protecting innocent people; from wikipedia:-

            "In 1980, during an appeal by the Birmingham Six (who were later acquitted) Lord Denning judged that the men should be stopped from challenging legal decisions. He listed several reasons for not allowing their appeal:

            Just consider the course of events if their action were to proceed to trial ... If the six men failed it would mean that much time and money and worry would have been expended by many people to no good purpose. If they won, it would mean that the police were guilty of perjury; that they were guilty of violence and threats; that the confessions were involuntary and improperly admitted in evidence; and that the convictions were erroneous. ... That was such an appalling vista that every sensible person would say, "It cannot be right that these actions should go any further."[83]

            "In the summer of 1990 he agreed to a taped interview with A.N. Wilson, to be published in The Spectator. They discussed the Guildford Four; Denning remarked that if the Guildford Four had been hanged "They'd probably have hanged the right men. Just not proved against them, that's all".[92] His remarks were controversial and came at a time when the issue of miscarriage of justice was a sensitive topic.[93] He had expressed a similar controversial opinion regarding the Birmingham Six in 1988, saying: "Hanging ought to be retained for murder most foul. We shouldn't have all these campaigns to get the Birmingham Six released if they'd been hanged. They'd have been forgotten, and the whole community would be satisfied... It is better that some innocent men remain in jail than that the integrity of the English judicial system be impugned."[94][95]

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Here say?

        No Offense, but I don't consider everything posted on the internet as fact.

        When you provide more specifics as to where you obtained your information and how you formed this would be helpful in making your point. links to hard evidence would help.

        Don't get me wrong, I think anyone involved in the act or cover up of this girls attack should be punished fully tot he extent our US Laws, but I also know mobs are formed by the use of mis-information and catering to the peoples emotions and avoids the fact that in the US, all criminals are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law. Just remember back when Spike Lee tweeted the wrong address for Zimmerman's and an innocent families house was picketed and they were harassed and had to go into hiding due to the mob mentality and lack of calm minds.

        By irresponsibly posting information on the web, these "hackers" could risk the life of an innocent person. That would not help this poor girls cause/case.

        We have law enforcement officers to prevent lynch mobs. Don't get made at a police officer if they pull you over for speeding when you were speeding. If your breaking the law and get caught, try and learn from it. don't blame the people's whose job it is to enforce the laws. Keep in mind there are bad people in all jobs/careers and that not all police are bad. Just as not all lawyers are good or have your interests in mind. Not all doctors are good, etc.

        Best wishes for a safe and happy new year,

  8. KBeee

    The people standing by who did nothing to help but took pictures and movies and then shared them, should at least be arrested for distributing child pornography, as the girl is under 18.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      No they will not

      They are on the college football team.

      So you have to see Lucifer driving to work on a snowplough first.

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      1. ed2020
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        No. They shod be publicly tortured for the rest of their lives. . . Which should be prolonged for as long as medically possible. All of them, the silent and the picture takers included. Anyone involved in covering it up should share their fate.

        If what is alleged is true (and the evidence is compelling) then they should be punished... harshly... including those who stood-by and did nothing to stop it. However, if you really believe they should be publicly tortured, you are more than just technically confused. In fact you're more than just confused, you're disturbed.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: @TechnicallyConfused

          Perhaps his suggestion of torture is going a little far, but I can certainly understand the sentiment.

          At the very least, those involved should be neutered (like animals) so they cannot do it again.

          Perhaps with a rusty bread-knife.


          1. Eddy Ito

            Re: @TechnicallyConfused

            A bread knife seems a bit rough. I'd think elastration or a Burdizzo would be more apt as it allows a couple of weeks for the consequences to sink in.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: @TechnicallyConfused

          @ed: read the web and see what was actually done to her. Torture would be my starting point for these scum. If they did that to one of my kids I'd teach them what fear really is. Multiple gang rapes and sodomy on an unconscious 16 year old. You think an icikle bit of jail time and a chat with a shrink is going to cure them? Public flogging and serious time would be a good start.

          On other points it is alleged the attacks took place in Ohio and she was dumped on her front lawn in West Virginia - does that not make it federal jurisdiction or is that only in the movies? Sheriff shitkicker needs a good hiding from the Feds.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I'm not surprised. We let the commoners treat atheletes like gods despite the fact they're nothing more than mentally deficient teenagers / adults playing childrens games.

    When the mentally deficient think they're above the law they do stupid things. I don't think we should ban sports but it should be illegal to make money from it. If you want to play games meant for 10 year olds, do it in your free time as a hobby.

  10. WatAWorld

    Social media firms should always ask for a search warrant

    Social media firms should always ask for a search warrant, and in cases like this a search warrant should be easy to get. Same deal with ISPs and telecos, no search warrant, no info.

    Social media firms should not be deciding what and what not to reveal to police based on rumors or vigilantes.

    Search warrants are easy to obtain when there is probable cause, and can be obtained 7/24/365 if necessary.

    I suspect (but do not know) the police, being typical American police, did not want to go out of their way to harm the local high school football team -- which is pretty sad if true.

    I mean, did they even try send the phones off to attempt to have the deleted data recovered?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Social media firms should always ask for a search warrant

      yeah, i'm going to assume the article's call for "social firm justice" was made in a state of emotional distress. You don't set the precedent of ignoring the people's freedoms every time a disturbing case needs evidence. evidence you could have had just fine, in many cases, if your local justice system functioned properly. no they didn't try to recover the "deleted data". There is no way all these kids/rapists securely wiped their storage media. In fact, i would wager it was the police who were doing some of the deleting. everyone always wants to pass the buck to the people every time doing it right is too tedious. hint: doing it the right way is not usually the fastest, easiest or cheapest way to do it! This kind of socialist, lowest common denominator shit is being drilled into people's brains from an early age.ex: all the kids in a class are punished because one didn't follow the rules. the author needs to be wary of spreading enemy propaganda as that's going to start coming with a cost attached to it.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Real men don't rape

    These are not men or even young men, just stupid, violent boys.

    1. TechicallyConfused

      Re: Real men don't rape

      They are all grown up enough to rape and so should face the harshest penalties available They aren't men though! They are pathetic pond slime.

      1. Oninoshiko

        Re: Real men don't rape

        Just boys? I've known many boys, to my knowledge rape was not a common pastime for them.

        Animals, maybe.

  12. Anonymous Coward

    They only kidnapped, drugged and raped her...

    If they had pirated a movie, or illegally accessed a computer, they would feel the full wrath of the law.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: They only kidnapped, drugged and raped her...

      If i knew you weren't being serious i'd call you an insensitive bastard, but seeing how some plonker has just had a 5 year stretch in bird for filimg films then i wont...

      Justice is a fucking joke......

      1. John R. Macdonald

        Re: They only kidnapped, drugged and raped her...

        Didn't a rapist walk free recently in California because of a quirk in Californian law? I can't remember all the details but it had something to do with the fact that the victim was not married.

        1. Lamont Cranston

          Re: They only kidnapped, drugged and raped her...

          @John R.

          Sad but true - it's not rape if you pretend to be her boyfriend, apparently. As I heard it, she was asleep with her boyfriend, the boyfriend left, another male entered and she awoke to him raping her, which is charming. I would source this, but I'm not googling "rape" when I'm at work.

  13. JaitcH

    Read the Local Leaks web site, it's enough to sicken any parent

    Whilst Anonymous might be a little over the hill, usually, this time they did right.

    If you want a balanced, well written account of what happened, check out: < >.

    Nothing in a horror movie would encompass what allegedly happened, the us of the word "allegedly" here is hardly warranted. There were too many pieces of evidence to excuse the us of "allegedly".

    As the father of a teenaged daughter, I was sickened by the vivid picture painted, teenaged boys dragging a 'trophy' around to share with their equally sick friends. A prime 'condoner' in this latest violence to a child seems, once again, to be a coach, who facilitated some of the early assaults on this child.

    Where have we heard this before? Pennsylvania! Then, only last week, Hamline University (St. Paul, Minnesota) - the coach is at the centre of the allegations. Missoula, Montana Football Team - almost identical to Steubenville, Ohio.

    Th allegedly crooked sheriff, a relative who is the drug king pin, a prosecutor whose son is on the team, and on and on.

    Read the account < >, you'll never sleep if your daughter isn't at home.

    No icon - nothing is sufficiently dramatic for this picture of rural America.

    1. silent_count

      Re: Read the Local Leaks web site, it's enough to sicken any parent

      If the facts are as reported on the link JaitcH posted then I wonder if the whole bunch of them (the rapists, their direct accomplices, and the alleged 'adults' who conspired to bury this case) could be prosecuted under the RICO act. IANAL but it does seem to fit the purpose for which the act was created.

      Yes, I'd personally like to see all involved, dangling by the neck, from a stout tree branch. However, as that's not going to happen, seeing *all* of those involved rotting in jail for a long, long time is the next best option.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    FBI to investigate?

    The allegation is, that there is conspiracy involved by serif and possibly other officials. I do not think, that in this situation local administration is capable to investigate the case.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward


    so, we have a video of some guy making jokes and hearsay at a party. crap jokes, though not a crime in itself.

    interesting that even guys like this have a bit of knowledge of Mars surface conditions.

    there probably isnt much point blurring the photos if youre going to post the video - as someone appears to mention her name.

    1. JaitcH

      Re: evidence - we have a video of some guy making jokes and hearsay

      If nothing else it shows a very, very sick attitude to the females of the species. THIS is what is so disturbing ... and why would a sane person allow the diatribe be recorded?

      I think Michael Colin Nodianos is mentally challenged. Bet Nodianos wishes he hadn't made those statements, now.

  16. Anakin

    More info

  17. norman

    After Ohio?

    After Ohio, they need to look at the American law enforcement Mafia in general, every town in America gas similar cases.

    In Milton Florida, the Police looked the other way when a 12 year old child was raped in a parade, on a float, with a goat; no arrests of any of the kidnappers, no charges to the ones who ran that float.

  18. John P

    "They raped her quicker than Mike Tyson raped that one girl," he said, before dissolving into giggles.

    What the f**k is wrong with these people!?

  19. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

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    1. CADmonkey

      Re: Post Radical SoulMates ...... HyperRadioProActive PlayMates

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        Re: Post Radical SoulMates ...... HyperRadioProActive PlayMates

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  20. Whiznot

    The fix is inplace... Wait for the civil trials.

    The authorities in Ohio will try to protect the football players. I hope the victim's attorney is a good one. After being drugged unconscious the girl was transported and raped at three different homes. One of the homes belonged to an assistant football coach and another belonged to the female prosecutor who tried to bury the criminal case. The prosecutor's son was alleged to be a member of the "rape crew" and one of the girl's attackers. The owners of all three homes where the rapes occurred should be facing huge civil liability suits. The plaintiff will surely collect all of the liability coverage from homeowner's insurance.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The fix is inplace... Wait for the civil trials.

      It sounds just like the town I live in......

      "Praise Jeeeezers....... "

      Cover ups, cover ups, cover ups......

      Dirty deals, greasy palms, glad handing all around...

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nice try

    ASSnonymous can't legitimize themselves by occasionally trying to do some good. They are basically unprosecuted criminals soon to be very anonymous and in jail.

    1. That Awful Puppy

      Re: Nice try

      Good grief, but you are a bit of a dimwit, aren't you? There is no Anonymous as such, just a bunch of people on the internet with a shared passion for, erm, lulz. And a few of these got together and wanted to expose a few major cesspits in our genetic pool, further aided by the fact that said cesspits are jocks, who are the natural nemeses of basement dwellers and other neckbeards, which is what most Anons are. Besides, what could be lulzier than exposing a few local deities to some richly deserved punishment and humiliation?

      Note that I do not care much for most of Anon's undertakings, and find some of them to be downright despicable, much like what I think of Christians and their various sub-organisations and denominations, but in this case, Anon done good, much like Christians occasionally do.

      1. Intractable Potsherd Silver badge

        Re: Nice try

        It is the same AC who crawls out every time Anonymous or copyright breach is mentioned. The language and grammar used don't change at all, to the extent I suspect s/he either copies and pastes, or it is a bot.

  22. Whiznot

    What about DNA?

    After the rapes the girl's parents took her to a hospital. I hope someone collected semen samples. Reports say that at least six boys raped the unconscious girl.

    1. JaitcH

      Re: What about DNA?

      NO DNA, they only went to the police days after the rapes/

  23. Jason Hindle

    SInce the local police appear ineffective/compromised

    How long before Federal law enforcement gets involved?

    1. ed2020

      Re: SInce the local police appear ineffective/compromised

      For "ineffective/compromised" read "corrupt".

  24. tonysmith

    Why isn't this all over the international news like the Indian rape case?

    I mean theReg, an IT mag, is the only UK based site reporting this. I'm guessing non-geeks outside the US will never hear about this one...and why aren't Americans protesting in the streets demanding justice like those Indians?

    1. WatAWorld

      the Indian rape case involved a death

      The Indian rape case involved a death is why. That makes it a much bigger deal.

      Still, this case in the states should get a bit of coverage in Canada and the UK. I mean, it isn't happening so often that it is not news -- is it?

      1. tonysmith

        Re: the Indian rape case involved a death

        It was international news before she died and in terms what actually happened in each case the US version is a bit more disturbing considering the cover-up in a country were you'd expect better.

        1. Anonymous Coward

          Re: the Indian rape case involved a death

          It was international news not because of the rape itself, but because of the protests that followed. If it hadn't been for the protests, you'd never have heard about the rape.

    2. Anonymous Coward


      the MSM choose what to report. Just like how black on white /black on black crime is rarely reported, white on black crime however, THATS news...

  25. NomNomNom

    Sure is a lot of fuss about what can only be described as a bit of harmless college rape

    I bet all involved are rather bemused by the attention this is getting! I thought rape parties were commonplace. Oh well you live and learn.

  26. Trigun Silver badge

    Outside intervention

    This clearly needs outside intervention. I.e. someone from another area/state in the police force to come in and investigate what has happened and all of those involved.

    This is the only way for this to be sorted out properly and those who are guilty of involvement punished and those not guilty delcared so.

  27. WatAWorld

    ABC News has this on the story

  28. WatAWorld

    Stubenville city replies

    It seems the calls for outside investigators and independent prosecutors are things that are being done.

    As well as allegedly having a tradition of letting high school football players get away with rape, the USA has a tradition of making a big thing about crimes that happen to pretty white girls.

    When I used to watch CNN there would be the 4 stories getting 24/7 coverage: one political story, one industrial accident/fire, one pretty white girl who had gone missing.

    It turns out that stories of the police chief's son being at the party, or being one of the rapists, or being on the football team are untrue. Same thing with the initial lead investigator.

    It turns out that stories the girl was carried from party to party are the sick thoughts of some commenter somewhere, being repeated endlessly.

    I'm sure the press will be carefully going over Stubenville city's claims on that web page looking for any holes. From what I can see most of the information should be easy to check out from school year books.

    I cannot help but think that this is one rape of one pretty white girl, one of dozens of rapes that occurred that weekend across the USA.

    Why does no one care about the other dozens of girls who were raped that weekend?

    1. WatAWorld

      Re: Stubenville city replies

      "When I used to watch CNN there would be the 4 stories getting 24/7 coverage: one political story, one industrial accident/fire, one pretty white girl who had gone missing."

      My point there, the other political stores, the other wars, the other industrial accidents, and the other missing girls (most of whom were not white) got zero coverage from CNN.

      It was 24/7 about one story from each category, and when one missing white girl story was resolved, it would be replaced with another. Each category would be filled with one story at a time.

    2. Lamont Cranston

      Re: Why does no one care about the other dozens of girls who were raped that weekend?

      Make enough fuss about one high profile case, and maybe the general attitude will change (the general attitude apparently being that rape is just a bit of fun, and boys will be boys)?

  29. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    In Finland the same

    Every junior ice hockey player in small city is thinking being king of the world and there is lot of rumors about dating lists (girls circulated trough whole team). Best of all - these boys are teached to smuggle tobacco products from Sweden as young adults - as using those is in the fad in ice hockey community.

    It is hard to fall from the top, so doping usage is quite common also. So no wonder, there is many doping and/or drug smuglers among them in later age as they have learned to the morale in early age. I do not say, that even most of (former) icehockey players is drug/doping smuggler, but if I would be customs officer, I would include history of hockey playing as one possible elevating risk factor for suspected trafficer. Especially if the career had failed late teens or as young adult. The same goes possibly to football players in US.

  30. Fuh Quit

    Why do we need to do this?

    Seriously, if there is even an ounce of truth, there are some sick, sad people out there. There is nothing more I could suggest.

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "the police should be given every opportunity to go through them"

    Perhaps. However, you might outlining the details of how this should happen? I hope you're not suggesting that police have access to all records because someone was raped.

  32. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    God my species is depressing. Can we all agree that creatures like these should be removed from the gene pool.

    The phrase that should be taught to all young men is

    Enthusiastic Consent

    If your partner cannot give Enthusiastic Consent then you should not be doing it. Simple as.

  33. Magnus_Pym

    But good player are worth a lot of money...

    Yes, of course, rape is a bad thing but money is a good thing. College football players are worth a lot of money to colleges. They can be sold on for a $$$ when they graduate. This money supports the whole college system and especially scholarship programs. It's just a balancing act: rape parties vs education for poor people. You do want poor people to get educated don't you?

    Note: the above was sarcasm.

  34. The FunkeyGibbon
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    It's not just the crime.

    I am sickened like all sane people by what these men did. I call them men because animals work largely on instinct, however sick these men are they are still capable of higher reasoning and therefore it makes their crime worse. I dog kills it may be out of primal fear or instinct, a human does it with the ability not to.

    More disturbing is the cover-up. A cover-up requires planning, multiple-parties and many supposedly rational people choosing consciously that the course they wish to take is not the just course but the one that suits them best. Evil on top of evil.

  35. mark 63 Silver badge


    this needs a movie made about it!

    in a similar style to "Alpha dog"

  36. Tikimon

    Absolute school sports corrupt absolutely

    As with everything here in the USA, it's all about money. Jocks are a protected species, know it, and act like it. Can't have any of those college moneymakers languish in jail now, might hurt Screw U's chances at a bowl game next year. And Senator Stasi is a huge fan!

    Ditto on the cops not giving a damn. Their political masters want them generating "revenue" on the roads, not wasting money failing to solve crimes. In forty years, not one crime perpetrated against my family or friends has had a culprit brought to justice. Been hassled on the highway plenty of times though.

    Hangin's too good for them. BURNING'S too good for them. They ought to tear them into little bitty pieces and bury them AAALIIIVE!

    (with thanks to Hanover Fiste)

  37. zen1

    Maybe this is just a rhetorical question...

    What happend to our humanity? High profile rape cases all over the world, high profile murder cases and people take a passe' attitude about it. I don't understand. This has just gotten sad.

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