If it gets rid of Arial and Times New Roman then this is the best patch ever!
Windows users were surprised to find that a Microsoft security update stopped fonts from working on their PCs. Security update KB2753842 has killed certain fonts on PCs where it has been installed, rendering many of them unusable, and causing problems for designers and businesses who rely on using the types in their work. …
Any font can be used in the wrong place. For what I want to do, not every font is suitable. You likely have a different list. Comic Sans is used too much, but that isn't enough to make it a bad font. Anyway, since I often am not using Windows, the Microsoft-specific fonts are not so useful.
That doesn't stop me looking at what Microsoft have done and thinking William Tare Fox.
NOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo...... "BOB" never died. It was just resting for a while after an extremely long squawk.... but... now it's risen again!!!!!!!!!! They've just renamed it
Metro. Kill it too! Kill it! Kill lit with fire! Kill it! Kill it! Kill it! Kill it! Kill lit with fire!
Arial is boring and was overused in the 90s. Get some imagination and pick something different :)
Personally I'd go for Ubuntu web-font for websites and Verdana for Windows but there's plenty of decent choices that don't make you look like a bank 20 years ago.
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I would agree on that, except that Arial supports Unicode the best of all.
For the other thing I never run into someone using Corel on a Mac. Corel is nothing that should be used by those doing DTP professionally (or what ever they call it what they do nowadays). Quark is a dinosaur that should have died already.
Nothing much right on that department, go back to the mac and have stuff working. Unfortunately Macromedia overtook Adobe, so Adobe's products sux too nowadays. They simply used to be high quality back in those days. Not so any more.
Corel on Windows it's just such a No No in this context. Corel never made it on the mac platform because they simply didn't cut it with the DTP people (who all used mac back then). Go back to professionals who work professionally that's what I say. And back to PostScript.
And then some - I have to keep a copy of CorelDraw on hand for laser cutting purposes.
The shame is, although it's a grossly outdated piece of software, it has a couple (practically literally) of nice features and still, after all these years, represents Illustrator's only real competition out there for vector design packages.
Adobe really could use a little more competition...
Adobe could use some competition, but from someone that keep the same high quality as Adobe used to have in the 80-90s. Not by adding features that messed everything up, Corels at it's best.
Adobe got corrupted when they bought Macromedia in 2005. As a result less quality as with freehand. And not to mention Flash, which Adobe at first wanted to kill. But no Macromedia bosses got to run Adobe. Bean-counters, with no sense of quality.
Want to do proper work, skip all those software and types that where written in the article. A little bit of professionalism I would hope from those in the industry.
"Adobe got corrupted when they bought Macromedia in 2005. As a result less quality as with freehand."
At the risk of further thread drift, I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you on the virtues of Illustrator v. Freehand.
If you didn't routinely use Freehand and expected it to be Illustrator then, yeah, your experience with it would suck.
OTOH if, as I did, you started using Freehand back in the day that it let you work in preview mode while Illustrator was still making you work in keyline and toggle back and forth into preview after every step to see what you just did, you asked yourself, "Why would I want to go back to doing it the old way?" You got used to the way Freehand worked and if you went back to Illustrator, many functions just seemed backwards and inefficient (In an Illustrator "punch" operation, the "hole" object sits BEHIND the "donut" object...? Really...? And if you want to manipulate it...?)
After (Gad!) 30-some-odd years of doing illustration and graphic design on a professional basis -- with more than 25 of them working digitally almost exclusively -- I'm preferentially still using Freehand, both at the day job (illustrator/graphic designer for a governmental agency) and in my freelance work. I'm expecting to be upgrading one or both machines in the next few months and with the forced move to the new version of OS X that this entails, I dread no longer having Freehand available to me.
Right JDX. I was doing pro DTP in the mid '90s and Quark was THE software to use. A true WYSIWYG, application, and was exporting to PS. Plus everything could be done by hotkeys. The best editor ever. I was using it instead of Word, it was that good. I looked for a bit at Illustrator, but it looked like I would be less productive with it, so Quark XPress it was.
Corel merely cut it as a consumer product. The quality of what comes out from corel is just plain crap. I've been gone from the industry a few years. But I doubt corel has gotten any better. It makes a really poor job for DTPers and such alike.
And the font type used, man oh man, Amateurs.
I currently use Inkscape for artwork, but there's a few font types I nicked from an old CorelDraw CD. Most fonts that came with CorelDraw were yucky "party-fonts" but it was one of the very few software packages I know of that came with Zapf Humanist a.k.a. Optima, a very classy typeface indeed and one of my personal favorites.
Corel Draw was/is an excellent software package. I used it a lot in the Corel 2/3/4 days. I went right off it when they decided to milk the upgrade cycle and bring out a new version every year. The printing part of CD was suited to professional production - in fact, a lot of graphic shops used to use CD just for the print part of their workflow.
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Yeah some amateurs did, not one professional.
Ever seen the hassle that is needed with CD files in pre-press situation? I sometimes converted our clients CD stuff by remaking them in Illustrator instead. That way we would waste much less time getting it actually printed.
Cause they never worked.
If you wanted to trust what you saw on the screen, there was only one tool and that is Illustrator. Freehand worked sometimes, but you could not trust that either fully. If you worked with an print house for your work and had a deadline, it was only Adobe that delivered. Everything else would give you unpleasant surprises.
Is that WindblowZE 'patch Tuesdays' can be a source of angst for many.
To quote from the article:
CorelDraw is screwed, Quark is screwed, WE ARE SCREWED. We have client jobs that we cannot work on thanks to this update.
Now, perhaps you can wonder why so many do not install patches - because they have work to do; and having a work PC fucked up by a bad patch, is bad for business!
Patch Tuesday is slowly becoming a faint memory for this penguin lover.
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Font Snobbery, as observed elsewhere, is like sooo 2005. A knowing wink when you see a colleague using it, or an ascerbic post on an IT forum... Yes, we all *know* you know your fonts, now sit down and have a little rest. It may be clichéd, but Comic Sans still has its uses. It's a jaunty font for the less-jaded to make quick fIyers for the village fête or whatever. I haven't used Comic myself for a few years, but only for style reasons and 'cos I have about 900 fonts to choose from.
"This is true - Comic Sans may be offensive to many IT folk but it is used for good reason in education."
Comic sans hasn't necessarily drawn ire from people because of an innate dislike for the typeface - it's commonly due to the fact that it's used inappropriately in many office environments because a manager thinks it makes them appear "on the same level" and "casual" when giving orders to staff, or because people think that it will make an otherwise shit boring event seem fun and relaxed - eg. "casual brunch" with the accounting team.
"Snugglesville School Fete - cupcakes and lemonade 50c each, or three for a dollar!" = makes sense to use comic sans
"Anyone caught using the printer for personal items will be given an official warning and be charged for the use of toner!" = Don't fucking use comic sans
Makes me wonder... what if the font was named something like "writestyle new sans" would people hate it so much? I recall an uproar from a few years ago regarding an execution order typeset to comic sans. Was it the hand-drawn look that upset people, or the name?
Comic Sans is one of the very few fonts that "draws" it's letters in exactly the same way that we write them
Not by a long shot. There are HUNDREDS of fonts that do that, most of them better than Comic Sans. There's a whole category of them, right up three with serif and sans serif fonts.
And there, in a nutshell, is the reason why the other 99% of the population will never, ever, care about fonts as much as the people posting here.
Most of us can get by with only half a dozen fonts and (truly, you'll have to trust me on this, because I just know you won't believe it) cannot tell the difference between the hundreds of fonts you mention and frankly couldn't give a shit even if we could.
What we do notice, of course, is when your chosen font displays our text as a series of black "character not found" rectangles. That's *far* more annoying than Comic Sans.
So ... Arial gets my vote simply because, as another poster has already mentioned, it is most likely to actually contain a glyph for the character.
CorelDraw is a vector illustration/page layout tool and a powerful one at that. No image editing program can be expected to do what it does. You probably don't need it. Most people don't need it any more than they need, say, a CAD program but that hardly justifies the bizarre hate its getting here.
Think about all the fonts that may be smuggled onto your system every time you view a video that you have downloaded (cough, cough). For subtitled media the danger is clear, but even non-subtitled media could be deliberately infected with a "poisoned" font as some video players render embedded fonts to an internal buffer when the video is loaded.
Most likely you guys are using ttf fonts ?
I was trying MS Expression Design and also noticed everything simply worked, then fired up Gimp and even there everything works (though I don't like the way the Gimp requires you to type the name o/t font first) then I checked my font library.
'tis all ttf (true type; ttf) which is different from the mentioned fonts like opentype (otf), and the mentioned postscript type (pfb).
Actually no, then she wouldn't had that problem and, she might actually have used proper postscript fonts.
Corel never got into the mac market even though they tried twice to lure over the professionals to their software.
But professionals are professionals, they use proper tools, corel never succeeded in that. But it amazes me that some of them used Macromedia products, they almost suck as bad as Corel.
Interesting, I was under the impression that the ability to change IE's scrollbars was removed in IE8 although I'm not sure where I got that from and I am having difficulty finding any evidence of it - other than a post on stack overflow, but that's the only mention.
I must be wrong. :(
Can't claim its mine, it's from the book "Just My Type" interesting book too. Esp with the hate filled section on comic sans...
We're talking about fonts sent down by the devil, sent to infestate human society and bring about the end of the world.
We must trust Microsoft here. To not to is to lose faith in the system and invite Lucifer into our hearts.
If anyone know what they're doing, Microsoft does... That's why we need to trust them and believe that their programmer knew what he was doing, instead of being a corporate drone, only caring about watching the clock until home-time and spewing out whatever code allowed them to have an easy life and go home early.
I believe them. That's why I'll walk into the gas chambers if they tell me I need to because it's the best thing to do and it's in my best interest.
I have faith in the system.
It's also why Tony Smith is the sole beneficiary of my will.
Times New Roman is an excellent classic typeface - designed in England for The Times. Ubiquity and association with Microsoft have not done it any favours though. A lot of people seem to think that it is some horrible Microsoft invention and not a "proper" font. It is often used to produce ugly, barely readable work by the typographically illiterate - though this includes almost everybody these days. Now if I can just work out how to type an em dash on the Nexus 7 ...
Strictly, TNR is a clone of the original Times Roman, made by Microsoft for Windows. But you are right, it is a classic font design.
It doesn't need much skill to produce a readable document with TNR, mostly just the size on the paper and the margins. I suspect there is an element of over-rigid specification in schools: print your essay in this precise style, and the teacher can see the amount of work you have done at a glance.
I had a good many pre-Unicode fonts, and I rather liked Garamond and Palatino. I know Palatino is used in some printed books I have. But I don't see those CDs full of fonts in PC World any more.
1. They finally fixed the font rendering exploit bug? That only took nine years. I suppose in a few years they'll start looking at their gradient rendering engine. Or NTFS.
2. Oops, the fix broke their competitors applications but their own applications were recently patched to not be harmed in advance? Who could have expected that to happen? That's odd. I am shocked.
I thought the world's entire stockpile of nasty fonts had been used up by the original Myspace. In magenta on a puce background. Aaah! Sweet innocence of yoof.
Re: Disdain for free stuff...I still use Cool3D occasionally for texturing and tweaking true type fonts for banners.. Just because it was free on a cover disk, didn't make it any less useful for rapidly creating sets of unique graphics. The UI was way ahead of the game in the late 90s. Horses for courses.
How about if there is an issue with certain fonts having an issue that may permit an exploit to be carried out
Wait for it.....
The people who produce the font should fix their side of the issue.
How crazy is that?
We had to ban several fonts which crashed 2 out of the 3 RIPs that we ran as they where doing some real nasty stuff (and don't even mention what Freehand used to do to any RIP I ever encountered)
After playing about with embedding code withing postscript fonts and fractal fonts and the like back in the 90s I can understands the MS position.
The issue is that someone malicious could create a specially structured OpenType font file (using Adobe Compact Font Format [CFF or Type 2] font outlines - OTF can contain either CFF or TrueType outlines), presumably where some field indicates a larger size than it should. They can then use that file from a web page, for example with Web Open Font Format (WOFF) download. It doesn't have to be a genuine font, it could be used for one letter on the page, all that matters is that the browser tries to render it.
Because this only affects the Adobe CFF parser, any bugs won't affect most fonts on most people's systems - the Windows- and Office-supplied fonts are either TrueType or OpenType using TrueType outlines. However, most graphics professionals use one or more OpenType fonts, for their advanced features. The fonts using advanced OpenType features usually use CFF outlines rather than TrueType.
"...Comic Sans Serf [sic]...
...is the perfect font for making a joke. In purple, and sometimes with a jaunty italics..."
It's also great for making notices to stick in newsagent windows. But for maximum impact remember to make every letter a different colour and ensure some of them are yellow, so they can't be seen from more than three feet away.
I realize that they have a lot of complex interactions to guard against, but for a company who makes the commanding office productivity suite to degrade functionality on that suite (especially when so many companies/departments/teams have style guides they use) is pretty sloppy.
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