This list is broken, no mention of Orac or the ships computer from Star Trek.
Ten badass brainy computers from science fiction
Computers used to be our loyal servants. But slowly and surely, we've let them control us. I used to believe these machines had the ability to positively change the world, but after the 56K modem invented Dubstep in the 1990s, I've been somewhat sceptical. So have film makers. Boost a PC with a new processor these days and …
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Thursday 29th November 2012 13:14 GMT TRT
Woah, woah, woah.
Plenty of good ideas coming up in the comments, but the original article limited itself to:
(1) Self-aware or sentient mainframes
(2) That try to take over or are generally evil in some way
I'm guilty of topic-drift too. My bad.
Though, should Holly be in the list? Queeg was just a joke after all. And Deep Thought? HACTAR, yes, but not Deep Thought.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 15:00 GMT Dapprman
Re: Woah, woah, woah.
Totally agree on Deep Thought and Hactar. Thing is though is that they obviously assume the readers here are as likely to have read Life the Universe and Everything (or listened the radio series) as the set designer for that awful movie (Deep Thought is described in the books and the radio series).
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Friday 30th November 2012 04:52 GMT Alan W. Rateliff, II
Re: What about written SF?
Hear, hear. I would have voted for the computer from "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinlein. Old girlfriend got me reading him, and it's a good read. IIRC, the computer called itself "MYCROFT." It started out as a bureaucratic tool which suffered "feature creep" of getting tied into one system after another until one day it woke up and was terribly bored so it started playing practical jokes, including mucking about with government payroll. Not evil, but it did ultimately lead the lunar colony revolution against Earth.
Paris, loonier colony.
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Friday 30th November 2012 16:52 GMT Suricou Raven
Re: What about written SF?
The Culture minds are hard to classify as badass, because they just don't fit on the scale - being so advanced that their motivations are near-impossible to follow. As one of them put it: "Never forget I am not this silver body. I am not an animal brain, I am not even some attempt to produce an AI through software running on a computer. I am a Culture Mind. We are close to gods, and on the far side."
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Thursday 29th November 2012 12:38 GMT graeme leggett
Re: Orac
also Muller's android that nearly take's over Orac.
room for the passing mention of Star One, the hidden computer complex that controls planetary weather, spacelanes etc for the Federation and also lies on the approach from Andromeda. with beyond it the "biggest antimatter minefield ever put together"
like the start to the episode "Star One" with two ships on collision course "Keldan Control, I have four thousand passengers on this ship and that ore carrier is still on zero-four-zero"
and later
Servalan "Star One is the most secure installation in the Federation."
DURKIM: "I know that"
SERVALAN: " Do you know why it's so thoroughly secure?"
DURKIM: Well, presumably because knowledge of its location is severely restricted.
SERVALAN: No! Knowledge of it's location is non-existent....no one knows where Star One is! No-one at all!
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Thursday 29th November 2012 16:35 GMT graeme leggett
Re: Orac
@Tim11
Orac made "The System", the advanced and computer controlled civilisation that built the Liberator, blow up - so that he wouldn't be proved wrong about his prediction (apparently showing the Liberator being destroyed) seen at the end of the episode when he/it is introduced.
That's quite badass
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Thursday 29th November 2012 13:24 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: No...
Slave?
Avon: "Slave. Why have the lights gone blue and the screen blanked out?"
Slave: "I most humbly regret to inform the masters that a program exception error has occurred in location 0x00fe09cda2, and that as a result the ships operations have been closed down to prevent possible damage. An error log is being generated, and upon the system rebooting the fault will be reported. Sir. Once again, I am most dreadfully sorry that this has happened."
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Friday 30th November 2012 16:57 GMT Suricou Raven
Re: Dark Star?
It would be more accurate to say that the Bomb was caused to malfunction by introducing into its purely logical mind a question for which there can be no logical answer, yet which was critical for performing Bomb's desired function and so could not be simply ignored. Bomb simply couldn't handle this. The same question can break a few humans, so how is a mere single-purpose AI supposed to handle it?
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Thursday 29th November 2012 12:22 GMT EddieD
Re: Mother?
From both Alien and Dark Star - both were written by Dan O'Bannon (Pinback, the guy who wasn't meant to be there).
"I'm sorry. I've done all I can. You're on you're own now".
And where is Eddie? The shipboard computer on the Heart of Gold. There's a personality I'd like to reprogram with a very large axe :)
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Saturday 1st December 2012 12:29 GMT Dave 126
Re: Mother?
> Echelon Conspiracy from 2009 -- Not bad, in the usual 'Why the hell are people trying to kill me?'-thriller way.
[Spoiler Alert]
Fits into the the whole 'Emergent Intelligence' sub-genre, along with 'Dial F for Frankenstein', 'Neuromancer' and 'Ghost in the Shell', amongst others, including stories from the 1950s and Alfred Bester, Terminator etc.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 15:02 GMT Destroy All Monsters
Re: Wargames
He didn't want to hijack the world's nukes.
He was just running the Mutual Assured Destruction game. In Hollywood logic, this meant actually launching the actual US missiles for real in the end, so he wanted the launch codes. Gimme the launch codes, you cheating fucks!
During the show, the guys in the control room didn't exactly suss out that all was just simulation. Comes from trying to look at reality through computer-controlled screens (a theme quite well explored in Oshii's Patlabor 2. Note the similitudes between this scene from War Games and this scene from Patlabor 2)
Also .. Jennifer Katherine Mack .. awww ♥
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Thursday 29th November 2012 12:32 GMT disgruntled yank
Forbin Project
I saw the movie on TV one spring. That fall I enrolled in a Fortran class during my first quarter of college. The main challenge to my learning Fortran (sloth aside) was probably my awful typing, but the flakiness of the mainframe did not help. After turning up often to find it under repair, notably the afternoon when I needed to get the last project done, I found it hard to take "The Forbin Project" seriously.
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Saturday 1st December 2012 12:51 GMT Dave 126
Re: If we're talking badass....
None as 'badass' as the ship AI Falling Outside The Normal Moral Constraints, a Culture Mind that controls the Abominator-Class General Offensive Unit from Iain M Bank's Surface Detail.
Though they all have good names: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:05 GMT Waspy
Hmm...I enjoyed S1m0ne for what it was (and it was an interesting premise) but like all Andrew Niccol films since Gattaca and The Truman Show, it looked lovely but really failed in execution...his films always seem to paint broad strokes with no detail, making them unbelievable -they always remind me of half-baked ITV dramas. Witness, for example, the fact that a man with no prior computer programming knowledge managed to get S1m0ne working in the first place...and that ridiculous scene where he organises and pulls off an entire Wembley-sized concert on his own...without anyone finding out his secret. I think S1m0ne's IMDB rating of 6.0 is entirely deserved!
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Thursday 29th November 2012 13:36 GMT What of IT?
Re: You forgot The Vortex
oh, if we are going down the game show tangent albeit loosely, then surely you need to include, Dusty Bin from 3-2-1 with Ted Rogers, The thing from Catch Phrase with Roy Walker and i'm sure there's loads more. What about that thing on Snog, Marry, Avoid? Not that I watch it :)
Back to the silver screen however number Johnny Five from Short Circuit surely must get a mention.... "input Stephanie, Input".
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Thursday 29th November 2012 13:29 GMT frank ly
re 2001
" ... HAL turns fruit loop when ordered to lie to the astronauts in its care."
As I remember, in the book, the builders had put a remote controlled 'kill device' in HAL. This was some kind of mechanical cutter than would disconnect his main power feed. Somehow, he found out about this and that had consequences for his 'mental state'. Was that just one part of HAL's problem?
Have I got this right?
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Thursday 29th November 2012 13:37 GMT David Given
Re: re 2001
No, you're mangling 2001 and 2010 (when they put in the kill device, and then Doc Chandra quietly took it out again when nobody was noticing).
I always felt rather sorry for HAL --- he wasn't evil, he was driven insane by bad management and unfollowable orders. Even so trying to kill everyone on board is a little extreme; all he really needed was a little primal scream therapy.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 17:17 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: re 2001
In the book it was something about him thinking they were going to deactivate him because he got a calculation wrong, which similar units on earth didn't, which he knew about because he intercepted the communication sent to the ship with this revelation and his mission was top be able to take over if among happened to the crew. Therefore he decided that killing the crew was the only safe way for him to carry out the mission.
No lip reading or any such nonsense, just cold hard logic.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:50 GMT Steve Brooks
Because V'Ger and the whole damn first movie was just a remake of Season 2 Episode 3 ST-TOS, Nomad should have kicked his butt for copyright infingement! Now there was an emotionless killing machine if I ever saw one, an indestructible planet destroying space probe....of course they destroyed it....one up for the fleshies!
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Thursday 29th November 2012 13:56 GMT Graeme Sutherland
Mistake Not...
Surely you need at least one reference to the Culture. My favourite has to be the Mistake Not... Or, by it's full name: Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath.
You really can't get any more badass than a name like that for an AI.
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Saturday 1st December 2012 13:05 GMT Dave 126
Re: Mistake Not...
When asked how he would like one of his books to be made into a film, Iain Banks replied "With a fucking big budget".
I had heard rumblings of a short story "A Gift from The Culture" being developed for film, but it seems to have died off- google search results seem to date around 2009. My fantasy director would be Neils Blomkamp or Duncan Jones.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:27 GMT Destroy All Monsters
Re: What about GLaDOS?
I guess because not in a movie ... yet!
Gendo Pose: GET ME UWE BOLL ON THE BLOWER!
Anyways, check out this CNET stuff. No reference to Black Hole's Max or SHODAN or the Harlan Ellison Superevil Supercomputer though:
Poor HAL 9000. Rating: Mwahahaha!
Proteus IV. Rating: Mwahahahaha!
Star Trek's Nomad. Rating: Mwahahahaha!
Superman 3: The Ultimate Computer. Rating: Mwahahaha!
Max from "The Thirteenth Floor". Rating: Mwahaha!
Mother from hell category: GlaDOS from "Portal". Rating: Mwaha!
WTF category: MODOK from Marvel Comics. Rating: Mwahahahaha!
Queeg500 from Red Dwarf. Rating: Mwaha!
Skynet from the Terminator Franchise. Rating: Mwahahahaha!
The Green Death from Dr. Who. Rating: Mwahahahahaha!
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:37 GMT kyza
Re: What about GLaDOS?
Thanks for the 13th Floor reminder! I'd completely forgotten about Scream!
Still, if we're including that, the building computer in Philip Kerr's Gridiron - where the son of the control systems programmer playing Doom on it sends it batshit and it treats all the occupants as Doom players - should be on the list.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 16:58 GMT Destroy All Monsters
The Prisoner
There is another one which comes to mind - The General in "The Prisoner". Not really badass and of unsecured sentience. Also probably the only machine ever that blows up when you show it a picture of Tony Kornheiser.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 17:05 GMT Destroy All Monsters
Re: The Prisoner
Compare "The General" to Wheatley:
GLaDOS in a surprise attack moment: Hey, Moron!
Wheatley: Oh, Hello.
GLaDOS: All right, Paradox time!!. THIS. SENTENCE. IS. FALSE!!
GLaDOS to herself: Don't think about it, don't think about it!
Wheatley: Um, true. I'll go with true. There, that was easy. To be honest, I might have heard that one before.
GLaDOS (Uncredulous): It's a paradox! There IS no answer.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:03 GMT kyza
Sentient?
The Star Trek ship's computer & Mother would be, under the Revelation Space classification, beta-level intelligences, giving the appearance and responses of a fully sentient consciousness.
IIRC there are two occasions in TNG where the ship's computer becomes fully conscious - can't remember the first one, and the second is toward the end of S7 where a whole new lifeform is born aboard the Enterprise. Generally AI in the Trek universe has been confined to androids (Data) & holograms (various holodeck episodes, the Dr from Voyager) - and indeed V'Ger in ST: The Motion Picture.
Re: The Matrix - what about The Source? The original, human-built AI that appears in the Machine City at the end of Revolutions? Not part of the Matrix, and certainly responsible for a lot of D&D (altho in the Animatrix: The Second Renaissance we see that humanity was pretty much the cause of it's own downfall on that front, treating sentient beings like shit), so I call foul on not including The Source.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:05 GMT Anonymous Coward
The Machine Stops
It's not in a movie yet, but I think it should be... this story by E.M. Forster from 1909 might be one of the more interesting and pertinent tales of our reliance and relationship to technology:
Each individual now lives in isolation below ground in a standard 'cell', with all bodily and spiritual needs met by the omnipotent, global Machine... Communication is made via a kind of instant messaging/video conferencing machine called the speaking apparatus, with which people conduct their only activity, the sharing of ideas and knowledge... a kind of religion is re-established, in which the Machine is the object of worship. People forget that humans created the Machine, and treat it as a mystical entity whose needs supersede their own... the knowledge of how to repair the Machine has been lost. Finally the Machine apocalyptically collapses, bringing 'civilization' down with it." <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops </a>
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Thursday 29th November 2012 20:28 GMT jubtastic1
Re: Prior Art
Sorry to do this, as I'm really enjoying the comments on this thread, but people saying something they read in a book or saw on TV is prior art is right up there with people who say borrow when they mean lent, their instead of they're and also people that can't open fucking cereal boxes without mutilating them and yes I'm talking about my wife.
*counts to ten*
Anyway the point is that only real things that actually work can be prior art, which is pretty sensible when you think about it.
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Friday 30th November 2012 22:24 GMT Vic
Re: Prior Art
> Anyway the point is that only real things that actually work can be prior art
That's not true. Fictional devices can be prior art.
> which is pretty sensible when you think about it.
No, it's not.
If you're trying to claim that you invented the idea of a device, then it being known if fiction pretty much precludes that claim.
If, on the other hand, you're patenting the *way* you got it working, then the fictional device is unlikely to be prior art as it is unlikely to have specified its methods.
Vic.
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Friday 30th November 2012 10:03 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: The Machine Stops
That was a very prescient story. People live in their own rooms and rarely meet other people in the flesh, Their own choice of music plays in their room.
They occupy their time by using their video screen to access vast archives of information which they then rehash as their own thoughts.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:18 GMT LesC
I stick to old computer names when doing PDC's in dental IT: Usually from this lot:
LLANDRU - Star Trek
COLOSSUS - Bletchley Park and, of course, The Forbin Project
GUARDIAN (The Forbin Project)
ZEN (Blake's 7)
QUEEG (Red Dwarf)
GEORGE - The (Original) Avengers, Steed & Co
TENCH889 (A Maze of Death)
SID (UFO)
BATCOMPUTER (original Batman)
KITT (Knight Rider)
etc etc
So much better than PDC01...
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:19 GMT Mike Flugennock
You forgot a couple
1. M5, from a famous Star Trek OS episode whose title I've somehow forgotten. Nothing surprising about the plot -- your basic "computer develops awareness, gets megalomania, tries to take over ship" kind of plot -- but quite well done, with a plot twist in which, when its designer explains that what it's done is horribly wrong, the computer chooses suicide.
2. The computer in THX 1138 -- or, as I call it, The Only George Lucas Film That Matters -- while not a "character" per se, is still a hugely influential part of the plot. The closest it comes to being an actual character in the film is when it appears as the wise, bearded face on the big screen in the digitally-networked confessional booths throughout the underground city where THX lives.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:43 GMT TeeCee
Re: You forgot a couple
....when its designer explains that what it's done is horribly wrong, the computer chooses suicide.
Another thing now looking terribly dated. Here's the modern version:
"And what is the penalty for murder, M5?"
"Thirty years confinement, with time off for good behaviour. Hell, I'm permanently confined in this engine room anyway, so screw the time off. Might as well have some fun and get stuck into some serious arse-kicking..."
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:26 GMT Anonymous Coward
Yes! Orac
Orac was self aware, and was generally intent on taking over the ship at any possible opportunity, at least in the first couple of seasons.
The computer from War games has been missed.
If we are including tv series, the re-imaged Cylons have to be included.
I am sure there are many Doctor Who's with mental computers.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:45 GMT Spoonsinger
Re: Orac was self aware...
Orac was designed to break into and control other computers. So just in it's nature to do that. It's 'replacement' in the After Life novel, (which wasn't filmed so doesn't count), was designed to control everybody. Only good thing about that book as far as I can remember is that Avon and Villa managed to survive the end of the TV series and although Tarrant also survived, he managed to get himself killed in about two pages of turning up. (Mind it was a long time ago, and I'm getting old, so might be mistaken).
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
Hitchhiker Guide to The Galaxy
Quote: "Earth is destroyed five minutes before the calculations can be completed".
I beg to differ. I recall one of the book said the Earth was destroyed five minutes *after* the calculations were completed. Memory says that a lady sipping tea at a café suddenly came to the realization of the meaning of life but the planet got destroyed right after.
Is my memory failing?
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Thursday 29th November 2012 14:55 GMT Bob H
Re: Hitchhiker Guide to The Galaxy
The earth was destroyed after the result, but before the melancholy girl had a chance to tell anyone about it. There is a scene where the girl in the cafe has the revelation, while drinking tea, she gets up walks to the pay phone and at that moment the world is destroyed.
The line "Five minutes later" comes from the idea that if she had actually been able to tell anyone about it then it wouldn't have been a problem.
Forget that however: why was Hitch-hikers referenced to the appalling 2005 remake which I need to scrub from my mind instead of the TV series or books?
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Thursday 29th November 2012 15:06 GMT kyza
Re: Hitchhiker Guide to The Galaxy
It's 5 minutes before the final read-out. If Fenchurch had known, she'd have been able to explain it in 'So Long...', but she can't, because the whole novel is about Arthur getting laid. Finally.
Not that it mattered, since the Golgafrinchans on the 'B' Ark had already wiped out Deep Thoughts carefully created humans.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 15:17 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Hitchhiker Guide to The Galaxy
"Unfortunately your memory is failing:
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Slartibartfast: Five minutes later and it wouldn't have mattered so much. Shocking cock up. The mice were furious."
No, he's right. The calculations were complete. Just that Fenchurch didn't have time to tell anyone, so the mice didn't have their question. Five minutes later and they would have.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 15:14 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Hitchhiker Guide to The Galaxy
"I beg to differ. I recall one of the book said the Earth was destroyed five minutes *after* the calculations were completed. Memory says that a lady sipping tea at a café suddenly came to the realization of the meaning of life but the planet got destroyed right after."
Right. But as Fenchurch wasn't able to get to a phone to tell anyone, nobody (except the narrator) knew the calculations were complete. So you're correct, the calculations were complete before the destruction of the earth, but as the book says, another 5 minutes and it wouldn't have mattered, because presumably Fenchurch would have gotten to a phone and then the "program" and the mice would then know the calculations were complete.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 19:28 GMT Nigel 11
Re: Wintermute
Yes, Wintermute was good.
If you're into books, I've always thought the best SF computer (as opposed to fully-fledged superhuman AI) was in Greg Bear's "Queen of Angels" and "Slant". JILL is female, not at all malevolent, and (in the first book) convincingly not-quite-self-aware.
The first book also contains a very scary monster. To say more would be a spoiler.
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Tuesday 4th December 2012 15:27 GMT Mike Flugennock
Re: Wait a moment
They want to remake The Forbin Project with Will Smith (and doubtless one or all of his endlessly annoying children?
AAAUUUGGGHHHH. I was a young-ish teenager when that came out. I knew about it, but never got around to seeing it until I was in high school, on a "Movie Of The Week" on TV. Even then, the whole computer-becomes-self-aware-megalomaniac trope was already getting pretty beat, and I thought it was kind of hokey and changed the channel about half an hour into it. As I recall, the producers of MST3K considered it for an episode, but also iirc, it was bumped by another '70s turd called Parts: The Clonus Horror. Still, in other episodes, you can catch references to Colossus in the theater riffs.
Doesn't this constitute a crime against art and humanity?
Crime against art, for sure. You know Hollywood's totally out of ideas when, after doing movies based on comic books and video games, and after running out of good pictures to re-make, they start in remaking crap like Colossus, The Forbin Project... but a crime against humanity? Perhaps not. Hollywood wouldn't keep shoving Will Smith movies in our faces if there weren't enough people out there stupid enough to pay to see them.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 15:24 GMT Mahou Saru
Never made it to film, but I wish they would...
Any of the Culture Minds, for example "Grey Area" (aka Meatfucker) :)
They have done what most sci fi AIs want to do and already rule humanity, and with names like "Big Sexy Beast", or my favourite "No More Mr Nice Guy", no wonder they came out on top!
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Thursday 29th November 2012 20:43 GMT Andy Enderby 1
Re: Never made it to film, but I wish they would...
oops......
The discussion between a starship and a fleshy type where the alien in question calls out the ROU Killing Time for arrogance and in turn is told that it has every right to be arrogant, bearing in mind it fucks star systems is pure class....
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Thursday 29th November 2012 15:27 GMT Spoonsinger
On second thoughts....
Re-reading the title of the subject - "Ten badass brainy computers from science fiction", it's not actually limited to AI's which have had a film debut - It kind of suggests all of science fiction can be included(*). Therefore go for it from here on. So Culture offensive ships can be included :-)
(*) I suspect the writer had a limited selection of piccy's to make the article more dynamic.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 17:52 GMT Jim 59
Forbidden Planet
What about that massive computer-machine thing that took over the whole planet ? In the bit where Dr Morbious is giving the other guys a grand tour, he explains that the clicking sounds they hear are relays opening and closing. Earie. Also earie is having effects that good in the 50s, and the whole "monsters from the mind" thing.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 18:09 GMT piran
Re: Forbidden Planet
The Krell machine wasn't bad-ass... it was just doing its job. The bad-ass stuff came about from the Monsters of the ID ie the bad-assness within the humans under its aegis particularly its 'connectivity' with Mobius. As I far as I am aware [no pun intended] the Krell machine wasn't actually sentient... just pretty damn powerful.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 18:16 GMT Herby
Colossus in the movie...
Colossus as depicted in the movie was a bunch of IBM 1620 front panels that were scrapped by IBM. They had LOTS of blinkenlights and were wired up to do silly flashes. You can see the MAR selector switch on the right side of the consoles.
A shame that the IBM 1620's were scrapped. They were wonderful machines to program (BCD and all that).
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Thursday 29th November 2012 18:57 GMT Epobirs
Proteus IV was a neighbor
I'll always have a soft spot for Demon Seed because the movie used the old Thousand Oaks Civic Center as the exterior for the building where Proteus IV supposedly lived. In the theater, my brother and I supposed that if the TOCC, about four mile from our house, was secretly an AI lab, then the house where Julie Christie lived might be very close by as well.
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Friday 30th November 2012 03:48 GMT Mahou Saru
Re: Culture rules.....
Can't for get the "Interesting Times Gang" whomever they may be :)
The great thing about the minds in terms of AIs is that they are all self programming, which makes them truly AI in my book. Also love the way the author gets past the issue of speed of limit limitation by their the majority of their processing being done in hyperspace.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 21:28 GMT John H Woods
Karen
Come on you guys, what about Bikini Bottom? Plankton, the microscopic nemesis of Spongebob Squarepants, has a Mk II UNIVAC which is his W.I.F.E. (Wired Integrated Female Electroencephalograph). She is bossy, sarcastic and belittling. True wifely badassery, and definitely deserving a HAL rating.
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Thursday 29th November 2012 23:41 GMT Neoc
"Helpful" computers
What about those computer who end up "evil" because they are trying to help?
The first one I came across was "Big Mama" from "Grey: Digital Target" - a planet-spanning computer which, after it was turned on, analysed man's action towards its fellow man and coming to the conclusion that, deep-down, mankind wants to become extinct. And so it helps making fulfil this desire.
I suppose that, technically, "Red Queen" from "Resident Evil" also falls into the "deadly while trying to be helpful" category. After all, it's only trying to stop the infection from getting out. ^_^
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Friday 30th November 2012 03:04 GMT MachDiamond
Any Heinlein fans about?
I thought at least one person would mention "Mike", the H.O.L.M.E.S. IV computer from "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". Mike, Michelle, Adam was sentient and self programming. There is also Dora, Gay Deceiver, Athena (Tina), and Minerva from "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls".
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Friday 30th November 2012 05:20 GMT Alan W. Rateliff, II
Re: Any Heinlein fans about?
I may have posted a little later than you, having not seen yours. Though I couldn't recall that his name was "Mike" but rather "Mycroft," but the MYCROFTXXX was the secret number to reach "him" by phone.
I never did read "The Cat..." though I have meant to do so for years.
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Friday 30th November 2012 08:08 GMT jon 72
End of line bargin bin (Mostly Harmless)
Talkie Toaster - Red Dwarf
TIM - from "The Tomorrow People" Thames TV circa 1970
BOX - from "Starcops" BBC TV 1987
Small Soldiers - MilSpec AI chips put into toys 1998
PS: @Peter R. 1
The 'Hogfather' was done as a movie a few years back and yes you do get to see HEX in action having a chat with Death.
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Friday 30th November 2012 09:45 GMT MrHorizontal
Geekspawn
Missing WOPR off the list was a pretty huge omission. I suggest updating the article with a whole page dedicated to it, because WarGames probably triggered more geekspawn than any other film I know - certainly true with me.
There's a pretty decent list of films on the 'pedia at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_about_computers, though not completely conclusive - for example, in anime, Neon Genesis Evangelion has the 3 Magi computers that run the entire society if we're going into Anime too.
Also, while not really so much as a 'character' in the film, the computers from Minority Report are still very influential in modern UI and interaction design right to this day too, especially with touch and gesture being so widely adopted.
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Friday 30th November 2012 09:46 GMT The FunkeyGibbon
Cake, and grief counselling, will be available at the conclusion of the test.
I know she's (it?) been mentioned before but I think GlaDOS should be on this list. Not only is she utterly ruthless but also is only doing what she's been programmed to...
"There was even going to be a party for you. A big party that all your friends were invited to. I invited your best friend, the Companion Cube. Of course, he couldn't come because you murdered him. All your other friends couldn't come, either, because you don't have any other friends because of how unlikable you are. It says so right here in your personnel file: "Unlikable. Liked by no one. A bitter, unlikable loner, whose passing shall not be mourned. Shall NOT be mourned." That's exactly what it says. Very formal. Very official. It also says you were adopted, so that's funny, too. "
"You look ugly in that jumpsuit. That's not my opinion; it's right here on your fact sheet. They said on everyone else it looked fine, but on you, it looked hideous. But still what does an old engineer know about fashion? Oh, wait, it's a she. Still, what does she know about - oh, wait. She has a medical degree. In fashion. From France."
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Friday 30th November 2012 11:17 GMT irneb
The Matrix excluded but Skynet included
For the same reason as you give: I.e. matrix excluded since it's more like a self aware software environment. Skynet was also a piece of software on the internet ... no specific hardware computer at all. How's this different?
And if you thus try to say that only specific "entities" even though software based is to be considered. Then how about say ... Agent Smith?
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Friday 30th November 2012 11:26 GMT Anonymous Coward
Flight of the Navigator
One of those movies supposably meant for children - but actually far better than most "adult" productions - "Flight of the Navigator" features a highly intelligent computer that is built into an alien spaceship. Its mission is to roam the Galaxy collecting weird lifeforms for a really, really ambitious zoo. Passing by Earth, it zooms into the atmosphere to do some sightseeing and gets shorted out by power lines while gazing at daisies. (OK, no plot is foolproof!) It recovers consciousness gradually only when a young boy goes aboard (it won't let anyone else inside, not even US government agents) and becomes more and more human as a result of sharing his thoughts and feelings. Eventually, it becomes a little too human - think John Belushi after a dozen beers.
There is some snappy dialogue: when a government big cheese orders a helicopter crew to follow the spaceship as it lights out, the reply comes through, "Follow it? I can't even SEE it!" Later, the computer (christened Max by the boy) puts the spaceship into a vertical power dive from a hundred miles up and turns off the controls. When the boy cries that they are going to crash, the calm reply is, "You're the Navigator. So navigate already".
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Friday 30th November 2012 12:36 GMT Destroy All Monsters
The "Magi" of NERV
These were rather on the cool side:
The only computer I ever saw that, when opened for debugging, shows a Jeffreys-tube like interior with yellow post-it notes everywhere (think code comments). Upon which the chief scientist (the designer's daughter) proceeds to open a brain-like module with a circular saw.
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Friday 30th November 2012 13:07 GMT Peter Gathercole
Re: The "Magi" of NERV
Neon Genesis Evangelion was a quite seriously messed up anime, on several levels.
The implication was that the Magi and the Evangelions themselves were or contained the conciousness and/or the brain of various family members of the main characters. In the case of the EVAs, it was necessary to allow the pilots to synchronise with them.
The only thing that I never understood was where Rei had come from. Shinji's mother was in EVA01, and Asuka's mother was in EVA02 (the scene where Asuka comes across her mother who had hung herself suggests that a trauma was also required, which is also distressing). I know that Rei was the prototype for the dummy plug (as shown in one of the last few episodes where we got to see parts of Rai in Terminal Dogma), but there seems to be no template for her personality, not that she had a lot.
But the role of the Magi was never explained, and I definitely don't think that they qualify as 'badass'.
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Friday 30th November 2012 22:16 GMT Dave Keays
isn't earth badass?
Did I miss something it or did you not consider the earth to be badass enough? A computer system where demon processes claims to run in a virtual machine that doesn't appear to exist, and libraries kill processes that don't use them or have a UI of the wrong color isn't my cup of tea. The time with my soul is both too dark and has too much of a delay.