The only way to create a great bacon butty is... To do what you like. You'll never get anywhere near agreement on anything as important as a bacon butty.
So, just what is the ultimate bacon sarnie?
It's fair to say that the question of just what makes the ultimate bacon sandwich has proved somewhat controversial with hungry Reg Readers. Our Bauernfrühstück v bacon sarnie post-pub nosh deathmatch prompted a furious scrap over the comparative merits of back versus streaky, brown sauce versus ketchup and butter versus, well …
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Friday 31st August 2012 13:44 GMT Spoonsinger
Re: I disagree
Interesting I would so love to agree with your "And forget the ketchup and brown sauce, mustard all the way!" position, however a bacon sandwich should, and in my opinion, only be in white bread - but "good" white bread, (i.e. FRESH and not middle aged purveyors, "can't be bothered to go and shop properly so we use our freezer to store the stuff - for no real reason than our taste buds have decade to such an extent that a Tesco's ready meal is spicy", type white bread).
PS speaking as a middle aged person, I despair at what these people have come too :-(
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Sunday 2nd September 2012 22:19 GMT David Dawson
Re: I disagree
It's supposed to be a hangover cure. Ergo trying to per cure FRESH bread of any sort is out of the question under any circumstances.
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That would be procure, as in, take great care to obtain. From the latin (etymonline.com) pro- ob behalf of, cure- curare, care for.
lesson ends.
Nice fresh brown bread, butter, ketchup, good thick smoked back bacon cooked till the edge is nice and crispy. Optionally add a goose egg for taste (yellowest damn yolk I've ever seen from a northumbrian goose). Needs to be a big sarnie to accommodate the egg, but oh so good.
We need a bacon sarnie icon.
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Monday 3rd September 2012 08:30 GMT Smallbrainfield
Re: I disagree
It depends on how extravagant you want to get.
Once in a while I like a BLT on thick sliced seeded batch loaf, but I add some slices of stilton as well and top off the lot with HP or Reggae Reggae sauce.
But I'm just as happy with 3 slices of bacon on Tesco Value white bread with a bit of Ketchup.
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Friday 31st August 2012 14:01 GMT Dave 15
Re: I disagree... mustard on bacon... are you ill...
Oh yes, you must be... 'crappy white bread is a must'....
as one of the other posts says 'won't get agreement'
certainly not, crappy white bread is just too disgusting even to feed to the ducks....
give me a large number of well FRIED and crispy rashers in a decent roll (preferably with sunflower seeds on - perverse I know but thats my taste) with some butter, cream cheese (yes yes yes, mustard is bad cream cheese is just perverted), mushrooms and an egg (bacon without an egg is like a cart without a horse - nice but not useful)
When I get home I will make one and photo it for your pervy delight :)
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Friday 31st August 2012 14:10 GMT Spoonsinger
Re: I disagree... mustard on bacon... are you ill...
"give me a large number of well FRIED and crispy rashers in a decent roll (preferably with sunflower seeds on - perverse I know but thats my taste) with some butter, cream cheese (yes yes yes, mustard is bad cream cheese is just perverted), mushrooms and an egg (bacon without an egg is like a cart without a horse - nice but not useful)"
This is why sicko's gain a totally understandable heroic populist status. Nothing to do with how wrong their ideas are, but more with how they show people, as a whole, to be so mediocre. Good on ya - but you are totally wrong so don't go printing off a big gold star.
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Friday 31st August 2012 12:09 GMT ElNumbre
Id agree with the Marmite - Proper Bread, lashings of Bacon, a dash of real butter on one slice, a spread of marmite on the other. However, if your bacon is too salty it can be ruined (don't buy the cheap stuff). Ketchup can be used to reduce the marmitey flavour for those fools out of touch with their tastebuds.
Flameproof coat - on.
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Thursday 6th September 2012 15:53 GMT Andus McCoatover
Almost anything with Marmite...
Judging by the equal upvotes and downvotes (12-12 at the time of writing) it seems you really love it or hate it - 50/50!!!!
(Personally, if Marmite's not spread on my "soldiers" before I dip 'em in my 3½ - minute soft-boiled runny eggs, there's something seriously missing in the morning as I set off, once again, to the (un)employment office.I can get a bit tetchy..Of course, anyone on the other side of the pond wouldn't know this culinary breakfast luxury.)
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Friday 31st August 2012 11:57 GMT Kool-Aid drinker
Re: You don't fry bacon, you grill it...
Not around here you don't. The smoked streaky bacon is fried in a non-stick pan without additional fat or oil, then when the bacon is cooked, you very lightly fry one side of both slices of bread in the same pan until the bacon fat is absorbed. The sarnie is assembled by turning the fried sides to the middle. No other condiments are required.
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Saturday 1st September 2012 09:42 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: You don't fry bacon, you grill it...
Kool-Aid drinker has it right, though I prefer a good white roll (or four), halved and fried on the inside. Not that it really matters as long as it's fried.
If you don't have enough bacon fat to fry all the bread, I can recommend white rolls fried in olive oil or granary rolls fried in butter (this is fantastic but I thought I was going to have a heart attack).
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Friday 31st August 2012 10:52 GMT Gavin 8
you bastards
Trapped in India for two and half months, and now you've made me homesick. I would kill for a bacon sarnie, literally. Or even a big mac right now, somehow they managed to franchise mcdonalds here with out any pork/beef based products (not they are probably pork/beef based in the UK either).
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Monday 3rd September 2012 08:42 GMT Peter Gathercole
Re: you bastards
The true travesty is the Bacon McMuffin.
After a heavy team night out (they used to happen about twice a month), a colleague of mine used to bring in a big bag of them to work next morning and hand them out. I'll swear that most of the people must still have been drunk in order to eat them! Made worse by the Berocca that they also thought made them feel better.
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Friday 31st August 2012 11:01 GMT jai
simple is always best with a bacon sarnie, i feel.
plain white sliced bread, butter, nuke the bacon in the microwave to ensure it's crispy but not burnt, lots of ketchup
but, this got me thinking - surely somewhere in Scotland there's a chippie that'll do a deep fried bacon sarnie, no? now that would be perfect :)
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Friday 31st August 2012 11:06 GMT Bob H
Location, location, location
There is a wagon located at BBC Television Centre (FSM rest its soul), behind the scenery block, which opens for breakfast until about 11s'es. They do one of the finest bacon and egg rolls on the whole FSM planet.
Being that I don't work there anymore there is also the Boston Cafe on Boston Manor Road, they probably should be shut down by environmental health, or NATO, but they do a mean bacon roll.
Personally I am a roll man more than a sarnie man, sarnies are more prone to flop around the place. Although you could tempt me with some thick sliced crusty white. Oh, and brown more than red, fried egg is a bonus.
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Friday 31st August 2012 18:45 GMT Neil Greatorex
Re: Location, location, location
There's a van, located here:
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll=52.538175,-0.306027&spn=0.001343,0.004128&sll=52.538285,-0.30605&sspn=0.001349,0.004128&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=52.538285,-0.30605&panoid=-LFKmwtfd5i9OLAwxgToIg&cbp=12,267.67,,0,5.79
That makes the finest Bacon & egg rolls in the universe. No sauce, just salt & pepper on a buttered torpedo roll. Devine. We place a bulk order for almost the entire office on a Friday morning & get them wrapped in foil, in a paper bag with our names on the outside, as there are perverts in the office who insist on sauce & you wouldn't want any cross contamination :-)
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Saturday 1st September 2012 20:01 GMT CastorAcer
Re: Location, location, location
Oh my dear god.... Is that van still there? I last ate there over 10 years ago.
It was the highlight of my week as a junior geek in the basement of TV Centre supporting the ungodly pile of cr*p that was P4A to go there and have one of their mighty works of gustatory pleasure. The Bacon and Egg Roll was a joy but you haven't lived (and died) until you had one of their fully loaded burgers with bacon, egg, cheese, mushrooms, onions etc. etc. etc.
As I remember it all the guys that did the real work in the studios used to eat there, the carpenters, technicians, cameramen and so on. Always amusing to rock up in my shiny geek suit and shoes among the guys in jeans and t-shirts.
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Friday 31st August 2012 11:09 GMT Anonymous Coward
M&S
I've discovered the most delicious ones, and you have to do no cooking yourself, are large quantities of those M&S packets of cooked smoked crispy bacon strips between white bread slices. With Brittany butter, spread thickly. Full of salt and nitrates, Yummy. You do have to take the strips out of the packet first before adding them to the bread and butter.
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Friday 31st August 2012 14:05 GMT Psyx
Re: So, just what is the ultimate bacon sarnie?
Actually; yes.
I tend to put the bread under the grill to part-toast it. And then balance the sandwich on it's side (ideally leaning against another one) on the plate, thus ensuring that the bottom layer doesn't get soggy due to steam on the plate.
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Friday 31st August 2012 11:53 GMT Geoff Campbell
I cannot let this pass.
I do not, sadly, have pictures, as we were mostly too drunk to be trusted with cameras. The very best bacon roll involves cooking the bacon on a barbecue, carefully balancing three or four rashers on a burger bun on top of a thick slice of black pudding, similarly barbecued, and then adding as much parmesan as you can get to stay in the bun.
We do this every year during a four-day party to celebrate the August Bank Holiday. Absolutely delicious, especially when washed down with a bottle of good red wine. Breakfast of champions.
GJC
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Friday 31st August 2012 11:58 GMT Pete 2
Step 1: no bacon
Forget rashers: too thin.
Instead take a bacon steak (essentially a thick chunk of best back, sans the fatty bits) and grill until thoroughly cooked, but not crispy. While the grill's still on, lightly toast 2 slices of hand-cut to your preferred thickness, white farmhouse bread.
While the bread's toasting, slice the bacon steak into 2 or, if you're a budding surgeon: 3, slices. Placing lovingly on one of the now toasted slices and add tomato relish (the red stuff with "bits" in) to cover. Depending on size of mouth, cut sarnie into pieces but be warned: this makes it an easy target for partners to say "wotcha got there, gizzus a bit".
Bite, crunch, enjoy. Repeat
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Friday 31st August 2012 12:07 GMT Steve Hine
It's all about the cooking of the bacon
Seriously... don't trim the fat; you'll never know when it's properly cooked (if you must trim it; do it after you've cooked it) - buy proper dry cured (or correctly brined) bacon; fry it gently in a good glug of rapeseed oil until the fat has rendered down and become crunchy and liberally fill two slices of fresh; hand cut bread.
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Friday 31st August 2012 12:15 GMT Blofeld's Cat
Incentive...
One of the electrical trade shows I go to offer:
- Free product samples (meh)
- Demonstrations of the latest kit and tools (again?)
- Technical literature (>shrug<)
- Lectures on various subjects (yawn!)
- a free bacon roll for every visitor (where do I sign up!)
Talk about knowing your target market...
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Friday 31st August 2012 12:23 GMT Wize
Source of bacon makes all the difference
Most supermarket bacon has too much water forced into it.
Its also in 10 packs.
I like Costco's own brand bacon. Not too much water in them and 8 rashers to a pack.
8 is a good number because it fits on my grill perfectly. Plus the other half and I get two rolls each, 10 is a bit more fiddly.
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Friday 31st August 2012 12:59 GMT sventamagotchi
Re: So now that the recipe for the perfect bacon sarnie has been found.
I'm actually a vegetarian (although I think eating meat is totally natural etc and am not a moss juggler) , and have read this thread with interest.
Best thing to wash a bacon sarnie down with? Why, a cup of strong builders tea of course!
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Friday 31st August 2012 12:48 GMT oddie
must be white
Although bacon sarnies _can_ be made with brown bread it _should_ be made with white. but not the kind you buy in the supermarket.
It needs to be a sweet white oval roll, preferably similar to those you get from KFC: It needs to be slightly (very slightly) buttered, and then gently toasted on the side that has butter (the insides of both buns).
The bacon must not be washed, a Bacon Sarnie needs to be salty as well as sweet, sour and delicious
The bacon can either be back or streaked, the key is to bake (not fry) it long enough that the meat and the fat both turn crispy (but not too crispy, there should still be the slightest of 'give' in it). To achieve this it is paramount that the slices of porcine mana be turned half way through.
This should then be covered in the highest quality ketchup (not too much, not too little, it must be just right), without which we are not talking about a bacon sarnie but bits burned flesh between pieces of bread.
Eat This.
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Friday 31st August 2012 13:57 GMT deanpm
thick crusty poppy seed loaf. cut roughly into doorstep size slices. thickly slathered with some quality butter , non of that namby pamby healthy eating spread or low calorie nonsense.. proper salted butter.
several rashers smoked or unsmoked whataver your preference.. these need to be fried in lard.. none of that wimpy olive oil or some frylight rubbish. fry until the fat goes slightly crispy .. DO NOT CUT OFF THE FAT IT ADDS TO THE FLAVOUR. any sauce is blasphemy . we had a colleague who put tomato ketchup on a steak at our christmas works dinner.. we of course had to kill him!. The only Thing that needs to accompany a bacon sarnie is of course a good quality strong pint of dark ale!
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Friday 31st August 2012 14:19 GMT GougedEye
We know whats good for you
The best bacon butties are made in Cupertino. They don't actually have any bacon or sauce in them as these are considered bad for you, but they have very carefully cut and shaped bread made to a secret recipe which smells amazing.Oh and you'll get sued if you try make one yourself.
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Friday 31st August 2012 16:01 GMT David Evans
Jesus I'm fucking starving now.
Good crusty white bread (Irish batch bread works), back bacon cooked with a grill pan, fat is OK because its going to be crispy. Butter or not, doesn't really matter to me (I tend towards not) and HP sauce. Not ketchup, not mustard (that's fine for sausage sarnies but not bacon) and none of those shitty brown sauces like Chef or Daddies, has to be HP. Mug of tea on the side (the only time I drink tea is with bacon sarnies).
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Friday 31st August 2012 18:35 GMT Richard Cartledge
I have done many tests and found that anything other than common white bread sucks. Fresh cheap white bread is best, it can be from a baker, but must be soft crust. As for bacon, I prefer streaky from LIDL, it is not British though. Sadly, I haven't found any British bacons that are as nice in a sarnie as the cruelly-reared milk-fed Dutch, Danish or Polish types.
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Friday 31st August 2012 20:08 GMT Anonymous Coward
Bacon Butty
My opinion on the perfect bacon butty is simple. Good British white loaf, freshly sliced in thick slices. Thick slices of back bacon fried and loaded into the un-buttered bread. Brown sauce. Done.
Cheap white sliced works, but isn't as good. Keeping a white sliced loaf in the freezer is useful for emergency bacon sandwiches after the pub. In that case, I toast the bread to thaw it.
However, my favourite breakfast sandwich is fundamentally different. Same bread. English mustard on both slices. 2 sausages, preferably Lincolnshire or Cumberland, but any good quality works. 2-3 slices of thick back bacon. 2-3 mushrooms in thick slices. One or if greedy, 2 eggs. Fry the sausages and bacon, as fat is released use that to fry the mushroom. When near completion fry the egg, but ensure the yolk is runny. Also slice the sausages in half lengthways, flatten them out and flip them over to fry the newly cut side. The sandwich is then built with sausages on the base. Bacon to follow. Mushroom on top of that. Egg on top. Bread as the last piece (of course). Now crush the bread down to break the yolk and let it soak through everything. Either eat the sandwich like a man, with both hands and big bites, or cut into 2 girlie halves to be more manageable. Use the bread to soak up and egg yolk that escapes.
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Saturday 1st September 2012 08:00 GMT Homer 1
The One True Bacon Sarnie
This is how real men do it...
First grab a field of wheat and smash it into flour with your bare hands. Spit on it to make dough, kneed it, then breath on it for half an hour to prove it. Leave in the hot baking sun for a few hours to produce bread, then chop into slices with your whanger.
Catch a wild boar and throw it into a bonfire for 60 seconds, then place the burning beast between two slices of bread, and shove the whole thing into your gob. Chew slowly.
That's the way my granny taught me, anyway, and she was never wrong about anything.
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Sunday 2nd September 2012 12:39 GMT DF118
Can't understand these commenters going on about the requirements for eggs, black pudding etc. I mean, these are all fantastic things to be admired and guzzled in equal measure (to my mind few things on this planet come close to the ecstasy that is a black pudding and egg butty with loads of butter and brown sauce) BUT... NONE OF THESE THINGS BELONG IN A BACON BUTTY! THE CLUE IS IN THE NAME PEOPLE!
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Sunday 2nd September 2012 15:21 GMT Andus McCoatover
For inspiration...
http://blog.ivman.com/bringing-home-the-bacon/
I'm wondering about a cheese-flavoured roll, filled with mozarella, dash of either crushed garlic paste, HP sauce, or a bit of both, wrapped in uncooked bacon, secured with cocktail sticks, coated liberally with beaten egg, then deep-fried for a minute or two...Must try it before the deadline. My dole comes a few days before, so I should have enough wedge for an experiment or two.
Lard or dripping to fry, naturally...I have a superb butchers shop* about 5 km. away, source of the meat ingredients.
*Rare as hen's teeth in Finland. This one in Oulu is crowded!
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Monday 3rd September 2012 04:33 GMT Gordon 8
Re: For inspiration...
Cheese Flavoured....
Get thee to a Hospital, I think you have a problem in your head.
The rest of the idea is not bad, but please we are not talking Carbonara here, keep the cheese where it belongs, away from the Bacon.
May be you need a Beer to get your thinking straight.
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Monday 3rd September 2012 04:28 GMT Gordon 8
Lucky B@#$%&^s
If you want the pits try living in South East Asia, we get Religion friendly (Wait for it)
Turkey Bacon
It is truly truly gross, low fat processed nastyness. If we do get 'bacon' that is not fowl, it's water injected Danish C*$@
I am sitting here eating Roast Pork Rice (in no way religion friendly) as it's possibly as close to what i want as I'll find in this place. ( good crispy pork on rice cooked with the juices of steamed chicken (used to make Chicken rice) and a bit of ginger... Magnificent)
If i could make a good Sarnie out here it would go like this :-
Bacon:- Nice thick cut Organic Pig, If you can't decide back or streaky have both (both, double meat for me ;-) ), pan fried to crispy. If you cut off the fat you should be excommunicated.
Bread - Good solid crusty white loaf, thick cut, fried in the remaining fat from the Bacon
For me a little bit of freshly made up Colmans English mustard.
And if it's a serious occasion, a nice fried egg
Any condiment that does not originated from Great Britain has to be ignored.
If it is part of a goo UNhealthy English Breakfast, bring on the Black Pudding, decent sausages, tomatoes, Mushrooms.... all fried in Bacon fat.
If you want Scottish, add haggis
Beer for the first person to go out an eat one of those magical English Bacon Sarnies for me...
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Monday 3rd September 2012 11:00 GMT The FunkeyGibbon
The Bacon Sandwich Experience
Much has been said on how you make a bacon sandwich and I think from this we can gather that it is as personal an experience as can be had when it comes to food.
Personally I like good quality white farmhouse bread with a good crust, three thick rashers of unsmoked back bacon from a butcher with a good dollop of HP sauce and freshly milled black pepper.
Almost as important is the accompanying drink. It has to be a strong cup of white tea. Anything else would only be doing the majestic sandwich as disservice. On this at least we can all agree, right? :-)
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Monday 3rd September 2012 11:13 GMT Brokendiet
To all the freaks who add sauce and use bread with bits in..... Just accept it, you're wrong.
The ultimate bacon butty has to be a double decker with 3 lightly toasted and buttered slices of white bread, bottom deck has back bacon dry fried and done to a turn, not nuked just cooked long enough that the fat is cooked, with mushrooms cooked in the bacon fat. The top deck has a fried egg nuked enough that the yolk is just slightly runny. Heaven. Oh god I'd kill for that right now.
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Monday 3rd September 2012 13:13 GMT Roger Mew
Bacon!
The problem is getting bacon, I have actually contacted the trading standards people. Bacon is described as pork that is cured by smoking or other drying processes, nowhere does it say bunging loads of salty water into pork make it cured. So, technically Danish Bacon and the likes are not making bacon.
So these meats and salty water will NEVER make a nice crispy bacon sarny. At best they will leave a white milky residue in the frying pan, at worst cause the frying pan to spit out all over the hob top and shrink by about 50%.
Do remember YOU paid for that salty water, it costs a lot less than pork, but is sold to you at an inflated price.
I have a difficulty here in getting smoked back, but can always get portrine fume and gosh does it taste a lot better than shrivelled up chemically enlarged and flavoured DBC products.
I cannot see how or why the authorities accept that it is bacon, I guess the real bacon producers need to call their products real bacon!
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Friday 7th September 2012 07:24 GMT tmfyorks
beauty and joy
A bacon sarnie, is a thing of beauty and joy. It SHALL HAVE decent white bread, back bacon (smoked or unsmoked) fried so it has brown bits, brown sauce. Naff white bread OR streaky bacon is only just acceptable if nothing else is available. It SHALL NOT have, that disgusting "tomato" sauce, overly crispy bacon, butter, marmite (what are people on?), mustard (sorry wrong sarnie, sausages only). People who put "tomato" sauce into a bacon sarnie are just hideous and should not be associated with, it shows a lack or moral judgement or worse.