And it STILL hasn't been left in a Cupertino bar
Oooh-la-la! 'iPhone 5' bares all, strokes tiny nano-SIM in pics
Apple's leaky supply chain has doled out pictures of the insides of what's claimed to be an iPhone 5, indicating that the forthcoming mobe will take nano-SIMs. Photos of what appears to be the next-gen handset fresh off a Chinese assembly line appeared on French site Nowhereelse.fe, and revealed the presence of a nano-SIM …
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Thursday 9th August 2012 17:54 GMT Anonymous Coward
@Competitors are quaking in their flip flops.
Competitors lawyers are salivating like a teenager at a miss nude world competition.
What micro feature might look vaguely like one of ours to a half blind person.
Oh great we can sue them for everything.
Just a surprise there isn't half a dozen banning orders against it let already.
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Thursday 9th August 2012 23:22 GMT M Gale
Re: Consider
Could be a good or a bad thing.
Good version: Being able to join a different provider at the touch of a button. Being on multiple networks without having to swap SIMs around or go for dodgy hacky dual and quad-sim adapters.
Bad version: You think you've seen a network-locked phone? You ain't seen nuthin' yet.
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Friday 10th August 2012 09:20 GMT Jedit
"Makes perfect sense in an Apple-world I'm sure."
Of course it does. You can make a micro-SIM by cutting down a regular SIM. This allows people to jailbreak iPhones and use them with networks who aren't paying Apple for the privilege of being able to flog their products. If you can't make a nano-SIM in the same way, then suddenly all those networks are cut off from upgrading Apple customers unless they start buying in nano-SIMs that are only used in a phone sold by their rivals but not by them. Exclusivity of iPhones is thus enhanced.
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Friday 10th August 2012 11:08 GMT Andy Watt
Re: "Makes perfect sense in an Apple-world I'm sure."
"You can make a micro-SIM by cutting down a regular SIM. This allows people to jailbreak iPhones and use them with networks who aren't paying Apple for the privilege of being able to flog their products"
More half-baked idiocy. Can you jailbreak an iphone with a pair of scissors? H8rs gotta h8...
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Friday 10th August 2012 11:42 GMT Andy Watt
Re: "Can you jailbreak an iphone with a pair of scissors?"
OK, so which networks don't / won't provide micro SIMs?
As for "blinding detail", which part of
"Of course it does. You can make a micro-SIM by cutting down a regular SIM. ***This allows people to jailbreak iPhones*** and use them with networks who aren't paying Apple for the privilege of being able to flog their products."
says you need to jailbreak it with the appropriate tool? And doesn't say you jailbreak it by creating a micro SIM?
Seriously, get over yourself. Just another hater, spittle-flecked mouth corners and negative bile emanating from every port.
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Thursday 9th August 2012 20:23 GMT Robert E A Harvey
how you'd design a state-of-the-art smartphone
Use the camera.
Have a massively complex multicoloured QR code on a bit of paper that you take a picture of. The phone then connects to the service and says "let me be that number.
Point two phones at it, they both become that number like an old-fashioned plan 1A domestic extension. Both ring together - even in separate countries - and the first one that picks up is online.
Point the same phone at several certificates, and it will accept calls for all those numbers, and ring out on any one.
Buy a prepay at the garage, get a top-up you point the camera at. Pay for top-up at a cash machine, and photograph the rapiidly changing screen,
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Thursday 9th August 2012 22:45 GMT Anonymous Coward
How I'd design a smartphone...
...I'd make it cool, like, made out of awesomium metal and extra tough mountain gorilla diamond glass. It'd help me score with chicks in reality, not just in my mind, it'd have an x-ray camera, maybe two, and it'd have no edges or corners, the front would be just like the back, except different, like a mobius strip, but a phone.
And a different docking connector, so my previous set of accessories no longer worked.
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Friday 10th August 2012 08:37 GMT colin dente
Re: How I'd design a smartphone...
Nice idea, but one fatal flaw: the Chinese control 96% of the world's supply of awesomium.
What were they thinking of with the new docking connector. The one thing that made me certain to buy another iPhone to replace mine was compatibility with docks. Now it seems I have the whole world of Android to choose from too.
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Friday 10th August 2012 10:26 GMT deadbeef
Re: Nope
@AC
I was referring to the form factor and appearance (which is what Apple tries to have an issue with other tablet makers like Samsung), we are not talking about the specifications or external addons like pen, keyboard (Asus Transfomer like) or hidden internal HDD.
So essentially what you are saying is that if the Samsung Tab had come out with a pen, an internal HDD/SSD and detachable external keyboard that Apple wouldn't have claimed it was an iPad "clone"? The main thing Apple is arguing about is the form factor and rounded corners even to the point of fiddling photos to make it look like the same size aspect ratio.
The point is there have been loads of previous prior art devices released that had the same or very similar physical form factors as the iPad/iPhone even some with a single central button at the bottom. Apple should just move on an stop nit picking and suing over stupid things like this just because they don't like competition.
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Monday 13th August 2012 08:30 GMT Mark Allread
Re: Nope
I had a TC1100 for years, watched stuff on the train, did a bit of email. People looked at me like I was odd. Then all of a sudden people kept asking me "is that one of those iPads?", to which I usually replied "no, this is a proper computer, with a keyboard and decent storage". Now tablets are everywhere and people don't think I'm odd anymore - not for that reason anyway.
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Thursday 9th August 2012 21:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Nope
Hehe, AC was truth speakin', yet gets -5. You pillocks. Says more about you than it does him.
Yeah but no- I only ever saw one Windows Tablet in the wild, outside the Colston Hall in Bristol- looked might he might have been making a survey or something. Otherwise, the only other tablet I saw was used to communicate with my Peugeot in order to program my key fob; a resistive touch-screen affair mounted in foam rubber.. after an hour of swearing, it worked when it was told it was talking to a Peugeot Partner rather than a 306. Key man mutters about not buying version X.0 of anything again- though to be fair the company that supplied the kit asked if they could examine my car in order to fix their bugs.
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Thursday 9th August 2012 17:54 GMT Furbian
I hate micro SIMS, and now this!
That's it, I hate them. I bought a stapler like cutter to do the job, but it's still annoying. My Sony Xperia-S has one, for no good reason, there's empty space galore to it's left. Yes I had an Iphone 4, that's what made me having to keep a SIM adaptor and an iPhone ejection pin in my wallet.
Why do I need to switch SIMs? Because every time I travel abroad, I obtain a local SIM to avoid paying for roaming. So yes call me cheap if you like for saving money being my main reason for hating micro/nano and probably eventually, pico SIMS.
Irony. The phones become larger, and the SIM size shrinks, fantastic.
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Friday 10th August 2012 14:28 GMT Anonymous Coward
Specific device tarrifs?
What a bloody stupid idea. A tariff provides a connection for a phone number, some minutes and texts and a data connection. What does it matter what device one uses with this service?
Answer: It does not.
Anyone paying extra for a specific device tariff is being fleeced. The network doesn't even need to know what device you have.
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Friday 10th August 2012 11:16 GMT Andy Watt
Ummmm... no.
"Yes, they're special Apple-branded data packets, you see. Would you like me to apply that on your account? Hello? Sir?"
My iPhone doesn't run an iPhone tarriff and never has. They're not locked to the damn SIMs. Several other manufacturers are using Micro-sims.
Go and polish your tinfoil hat with your bile-laced spittle.
Oooo, I swore I wouldn't stoop to standard El Reg commentard standards...
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Thursday 9th August 2012 20:38 GMT A Non e-mouse
Re: Pico-SIMs?
Well Apple were/are trying to push a software SIM. i.e. a SIM that you downloaded via, say, iTunes to your phone.
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Thursday 9th August 2012 20:45 GMT Charles 9
Re: Pico-SIMs?
But I think the cell companies didn't bite, as difficult-to-get-to SIMs are to them the best defense against switching (or defecting in their view). And Apple can't dictate as many terms as they could before (and in this aspect, the phone companies have a common enemy so will unite to shoot soft-SIMs down).
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Thursday 9th August 2012 20:52 GMT Anonymous Coward
The ground-breaking thing about the original iPhone was the software (plus the type of touchscreen). Nothing else is that revolutionary, the retina screen is very nice but colours are a bit flat.
Nothing seems to be moving on that fast with iOS, if anything many of the changes are more about kicking Google out than moving things forward.
The UI needs a rethink, the whole icon approach is old and boring now. iOS is little more than a glorified Palm Pilot OS.
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Thursday 9th August 2012 21:42 GMT Dave 126
okay...
OS suggestions please.
We have tap the icon (location)
We have directional (swipes, Palm OS Graffiti in a different way)
We have acceleration (tilts - and often shit when used for things other than screen orientation)
We have voice (Siri, Android)
We have had taps (that strange cube MP3 player that either Samsung or iRiver made)
Just curious as to your alternative to icons. They have been around for a while.
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Thursday 9th August 2012 22:00 GMT TheOtherHobbes
Re: okay...
A UI that lets devs change the fucking wallpaper would be a good start
Genuine no-bullshit multi-tasking
A position/distance sensor above the screen
A pressure sensitive multitouch screen
Proper network file management, so I can load a file from my Mac/PC/device into an app, change it, and save it back from that app to any Mac/PC/Device on the network
Failing which, easy data sharing between accounts on iCloud
Or - ferkrissakes - at least give us file sharing in iTunes that supports folders properly
In extremis, a 3D(ish) UI with eye position tracking and/or drag-to-spin, pinch-to-zoom
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Friday 10th August 2012 09:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: okay...
"A UI that lets devs change the fucking wallpaper would be a good start"
Your not allowed. The Apple overlords command that your phone WILL look like the rest of the sheep followers. NO you AILL NOT be allowed to personalise your device. It WILL LOOK AND FEEL LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER SHEEP.
NOW SHUSH, or your beloved iPhone will be removed!
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Friday 10th August 2012 09:59 GMT ThomH
Re: okay...
Is there any point engaging with Obviously!? Let's find out...
Users are free to change their wallpaper. The poster appears to be suggesting that iOS is outdated because third-party apps can't change it for you. It sounds a bit desperate when put like that, but I think probably he was alluding to the live wallpaper that Android gained in 2.<something> rather than suggesting a huge pent-up need for alternative methods to select wallpaper.
You therefore are allowed to change wallpaper and your device needn't look like everybody else's in that respect.
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Friday 10th August 2012 07:40 GMT Anonymous Coward
this is news ?
i just ask cos we knew this about 4 months ago,another bribery battle won by flapple at etsi.
another case of do it the flapple way,just dont ask if it realy is actualy better or just different.
flapple dont innovate,they do something old a bit differently,thats all,i would not mind if the flapple way was better for general public,but mostly it is'nt.
its one of the reasons flapple will slide as quick as it climbed,the jobs/flapple way of doing business is destructive,not constuctive, its a prime example of whats wrong with america at moment.
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Friday 10th August 2012 09:15 GMT jockmcthingiemibobb
I care not a jot about these new features. For actual phone calls (remember these?) I prefer ye olde phone with tactile buttons.
Seriously....I'm sure many current iPhone 4 owners will be more concerned about whether the iPhone 5 can survive a drop from just waist height without the screen smashing? Also curious if their new design requires about 1.5 hours and microsurgery skills just to replace the screen.
I'm so over Apple. Overpriced badly engineered Cr@p
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Friday 10th August 2012 14:19 GMT PeterM42
Apple NON-STANDARD yet again
So yet another new incompatible SIM card and incompatible USB connector.
2 EXTREMELY GOOD reasons for NOT getting an iPhone (apart from the expense, non-replaceable batteries and fixed memory sizes). Everyone else can do it, but OH NO - not Apple.
I will stick with my Samsung Galaxy SII which can probably do MORE (certainly MUCH CHEAPER!) than some useless and expensive bit of FANBOIS' kit.
Microsoft and many others made their fortunes out of standardisation. Apple will remain niche market (albeit a VERY LARGE niche) until they adopt industry standards.