Yes, yes, the Olympics are near. But what'll happen to its IT afterwards? British schoolchildren will be among those receiving computer networking gear liberated from London's Olympic park once the competition is over, said Cisco. The company provided 2,200 network switches to create a BT-designed topology that can carry the results of the men's 100m to the world and link 22,000 on-site journalists …
What's gonna happen to the Londoners Olympic IT kit after the Londoners have had their Londoners Olympics? Well Sherlock, the same as is gonna happen to the Londoners buildings - they get to keep the lot.
The Londoners Olympics 2012. For Londoners. Decided to be held in London by Londoners. The buildings get to be used after by Londoners. The rest of the country get to gawp at the Londoners torch as makes its condescending token-gesture way through their town, and the rest on telly (MP's and, err, Londoners get all the tickets, natch).
"The rest of the country get to gawp at the Londoners torch as makes its condescending token-gesture way through their town..."
Lest we forget, the streetlamps 100 miles from the Smoke are still littered with "London 2012" banners weeks after the self-toasting cheese graters have been and gone.
You even bothered gawping at the torch?
Complete irrelevant yawnfest start to finish.. the only entertainment has been watching how surprised people are the only people making money out of this are the corporate 'sponsors'.
OTOH if any politician claims there isn't enough money after blowing 10billion on some berk running around with an 99 cornet that someone has set on fire then they're going to get two fingers and a belly laugh.
@bdam
It is, after all, the "London" Olympics. I think that might have something do with the IOC awarding the Olympics to a city, not a country.
Naturally, it becomes a national event with some crumbs handed out to the "the provinces" and the whole country gets to pay for the whole shebang, but nobody talks about the China Olympics (Beijng), the Greek Olympics (Athens) or the Australia Olympics (Sydney).
Personally, I'll be avoiding it as much as possible.
Err, as an ex-Londoner I'd like to mention here that the majority of Londoners didn't want the cost or the extra people crowding the city, neither did we want the extra taxes. The whole 'sell' for the 2012 olympics was a tapestry of lies and half-truths about it being the best way to regenerate parts of the city, when in fact it's pretty obvious it would have been cheaper and easier just to invest the money directly.
Make no mistakes, this is a political pride/legacy play, nothing to do with the people, be they Londoners or otherwise.
I'm a little disappointed with all of the "could be"s. You'd think that with an undertaking this huge, there'd have been some long-term planning involved.
Something like "These switches have been earmarked for educational use after the Games" or "We have a tenant lined up for this building next year."
Is strictly not possible due to the fact that most bureaucrats suffer from Extreme Terminal Stupidity[1].
Good idea with the soap, but, not the mouth, but ....(see below)
[1]Extreme Terminal Stupidity (ETS) is a mental defect that is rare in the common man, but gets more and more common as the individual's employment station reaches higher and higher into the lofty towers of enterprise or government.
Most people understand ETS by its street name: shit for brains.
I actually think /most/ of them are VERY clever. Many of them are also self-serving, manipulative, acquisitive, arrogant, thieving scumbags who will stop at nothing - tell any lie, obfuscate their true intentions at every opportunity, play different groups in society off against one another, deliberately sow discontent, single out those least able to defend themselves; all the while with their smug, self satisfied, superior little smirk on their face (particularly Cambo and Osborne - I bet they had that same smirk when engaging in the old favourite pastime oftrashing the restaurants of Oxford (and Osborne definitely had it when he was pictured with the hooker coked off his face)). They exist only in order to advance their own agenda. If any policies benefit any of the people, it is almost certainly going to be those few people who live in the constituencies which ever change hands. The rest of us can forget about having any actual say in this country which is laughably termed a "democracy".
Do you think anyone comes up with these justifications for the Olympics after detailed analysis and planning?
The detailed analysis of the Olympics, carried out by economists repeatedly reports that it's not worth hosting them. The only benefit is that the nation gets a 3 week party and that's a pretty damned expensive party, especially as it's full of sports that people normally couldn't give a toss about.
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That'll be the kit that is provided through sponsorship. as 70% of the games (*not* the infrastructure, the games) is provided by. Less than a third is taxpayers money and all the network is sponsored (hence Cisco get to publicise their involvement to the reg)
If you read things from the mail, at least google them before putting it onto a proper forum
... will us the taxpayer (or at least the treasury) be refunded some of the 10 billion that's been spent on this 2 week ego fest? Somehow I doubt it. Its all very well pretending to be magnanimous about "donating" kit to schools when its already bought and paid for by the general public.
Just because the switches are 'only' 6500's doesn't mean you can't create some decent backbone topology with them.
Just because lego* bricks are only basic little blocks doesn't mean you can't make something good** with them.
* Other construction bricks are available, presumably
** Might not necessarily be useful
Just because lego bricks are only basic little blocks doesn't mean you can't make something good with them.
Like a Rolls Royce Trent engine, perhaps ?
and have a roadmap up to at least 2020 - they are completely different beasts to the 6500 (non E) chassis which have an end of sale date this august.
Apart from a much bigger backplane the E Series Chassis support the new Virtual Switching Supervisor 720-10GEs which give you a resislient pair of switches without having to rely on the painfully slow Spanning Tree Protocol for link resilience in the core - handy when you've got thousands of VLANs running through the buggers.
- anonymous for obvious reasons.
@AC Posted Saturday 21st July 2012 17:14 GMT
"- anonymous for obvious reasons."
Is the obvious portion because you are clueless of what you are talking about? The E has only been around for a "few" years. They have been around for more than a "few" years.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/prod_end-of-life_notice0900aecd8035ece4.html
EOS was November 2006. 2012 - 2006 = 6. That is MORE than a few years. The E series was released in 2004; so 8 years ago.
Just so you know, you can run the Sup-720 on the non-E chassis. You still get the same fabric speed as the E chassis. The Sup determines the backplane speed, not the chassis. The E series allows for bigger power supplies than the non-E series. So if you are using high power draw cards or POE, you need the E-series chassis. The backplane connectors are compatible between the E and non-E chassis models. Many cards require the high speed fan which can be put into a non-E chassis.
*The Sup-2T requires an E chassis.
The CCC (Chaos Computer Club) regularly holds a conference the Chaos Communications Conference. For that they build up a network of similar orders of magnitude. (only about 20 gigabit Internet uplink though)
A few years back they ran into an obscure bug I think in Cisco switches. Their next hop tables apparently only have 4096 entries. There might be other similarly exotic bugs hidden.
People writing "gonna" ( never heard even Americans pronounce it that way), the article printing, several times, "repurposing". This for a supposedly technical audience if the native language is so difficult to use and write, no
wonder so much programming and the average user interface are so poor.
I shall stay anonymous while the massed ignorance and wounded pride yell at me to
prove the point.
It's just such a shame to see so much money wasted on a 1 month binge when many parts of the rest of the UK are in such a depressed state. That could have been alot of schools, teachers, nurses, hospitals, infrastructure etc. nationwide... providing a real legacy.
It was a disgusting decision to bid to host the 'lympics. Those who approved the decision should be ashamed of themselves. Especially when the bid was won through deliberate dodgy accounting and lies. The Olympics requires far too much development and construction by the host nation and is not sustainable in its current format.
Which I also think is disgusting!
Upgrading the Underground should have been a priority and extending it into South London. Instead they've added to the horrible web of over ground train routes operated by different franchises... all charging different rates for the same journey distances. And not matching the Underground for frequency.
But still a much better use of money than the 'lympics. At least it should still be around and in use in 20 years' time.
The vast quantity of kit required for the London Olympics is probably the reason that the Cisco [charity] Donation Programme has been suspended.
"[We] will not be processing new donation requests at this time because increased demand for Cisco products has exceeded the programmes inventory."
There's always a reason!
Given that BT can't provide reliable broadband at any decent speed to 80% of the country, I can imagine what a complete mess a "BT-designed topology" is. Pixellated pictures of athletes delivered at dial-up modem speeds. I can't wait. Another Olympic (tm)(r)(c) partial success.
"...those coke machines will have to be crammed full of alcohol..."
Ah, you appear to be suffering from advertising indoctrination. You see "coke machines" and "journalists" and think; "What would the hacks want with Coca-Cola?".
I see "coke machines" and "journalists" and applaud the cunning exploitation of a marketing opportunity by the Bolivians.
in New Zealand I have no interest in the Olympics .
If it was genuine sport I might be but these Games are now just Big Business.
Someone is making big Bucks out of theme while you poor bloody Taxpayers have been given another burden to bear.
Actually I think it was Adolf Hitler in 1936 who started the rot from the Olympics being a sporting event.
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