I'd bet that if it was information that the plod could use to investigate 'terrorists' that the Street View cars were hoovering, there wouldn't be any further investigations...
Google coughs up what it coughs up to govs - and what it suppresses
Canada asked Google to remove a video of a Canadian flushing his passport down the toilet and the US police wanted a blog that defamed a cop in a "personal capacity" taken down. Google has published the censorship requests that it received from governments and government agencies worldwide in the six months from July to …
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Tuesday 19th June 2012 06:45 GMT JimC
Re:Which of these is worse...
Well that depends, doesn't it. If undermining the authority of the monarchy results in a civil war where thousands or millions are killed, then I'd regard that as a good deal worse outcome than an amateur bomb plot.
Historically consitutional monarchies have been seen as providing useful checks and balances on the tendency of pure democracies to be taken in by demagogues with no aim or vision other than to get elected again, no matter how much long term damage they do to their countries in the process of pursuing a short term populist vision.
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Monday 18th June 2012 15:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: And so Google became the moral compass for the world
I don't think you read it properly - they removed videos which threatened terrorism in the UK, and ones which are rude about the monarchy in Thailand. Both of these things are illegal in the respective countries. In the cases where the request had no legal basis it seems Google refused them. What's the problem?
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Monday 18th June 2012 21:56 GMT Astrodude
Re: And so Google became the moral compass for the world
So supporting free speech is hardly being (arbitrarily) the "moral compass". Do you agree with free speech or do you not? Google's motto after all is "don't be evil". If you think that following the law without question is all that there is then you fail.
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Tuesday 19th June 2012 10:00 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: And so Google became the moral compass for the world
"So supporting free speech is hardly being (arbitrarily) the "moral compass". Do you agree with free speech or do you not?"
You are arbitrarily deciding what is reasonable free speech based on your own moral compass, which is based on your own society.
In our country, pro-terrorism or pro-paedo stuff and racist hate-posts are 'wrong' and get taken down despite being 'free speech'. Should it be left up in the name of free speech, or is 'good morality' more important than bandying hatred and bile?
In Thailand, insulting the royals is generally viewed with the same moral disdain that you would view hate-speech, as the people there generally have enormous respect for their royals and predominantly hang pictures of them in their front rooms. You have no right to look down your nose at them for censoring free speech on their own moral issues so long as you are pro-censorship regarding your own.
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Monday 18th June 2012 14:39 GMT Jonathan Richards 1
Re: I didn't notice the election that voted the Google oligarchy into power
What is this power of which you speak? Google ® just told us something about the requests for information they get from authorities about the users of Google's services. Google isn't administering some sort of global resource like air or the oceans. They only have as much power over you, personally, as you give them by agreeing to the Terms and Conditions of Service. If you don't like it, don't use the services.
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Monday 18th June 2012 16:31 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: I didn't notice the election that voted the Google oligarchy into power
The power to pick and choose which legal requests to abide to?
I don't see them giving that option whenever Google themselves feel a site is "spammy" and drop them from search listings.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/30/google_penguin_update_breaks_search_results_some_say/
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Monday 18th June 2012 20:41 GMT Steve Knox
Re: I didn't notice the election that voted the Google oligarchy into power
The power to pick and choose which legal requests to abide to?
EVERYONE has the power to pick and choose which legal requests to follow, and which to not follow. If request is proper and is not followed, the legal body has the right to impose penalties.
While these two (the propriety of the request (call it R) and the imposition of penalties (call it P)) are not directly related, research indicates that R tends to vary directly and P tends to vary indirectly with a third variable L, which represents the individuals' access to legal representation in the given jurisdiction.
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Monday 18th June 2012 15:24 GMT John A Blackley
Not a lot of reality
Google is a business. It operates within the laws of the countries in which it does business. If the government of a particular country decides a piece of content is unlawful (in that country) then it requires Google to remove it. If Google wishes to continue doing business in that country then they comply with the request.
Which part of that is so difficult to understand?
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Monday 18th June 2012 17:02 GMT hugo tyson
"Free speech"
USAans: remember that your right to Free Speech is only with regard to what your own government is permitted to do to restrict it. Corporations* are not bound by that limitation, except to the extent that restricting speech might have negative commercial implications. So if you don't like Google's attitude to your treasured Free Speech, don't shop there; that's the extent of your recourse.
[*]including your own employer
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Monday 18th June 2012 23:36 GMT Anonymous Coward
Situation on youtube is way worse
They don't mention dozens of account information they passed to Islamic Turkish government prosecutor belonging to people who dared to mess with a fanatical Islamic cult leader.
Yes, they passed account info/ ip of comments and in very same night, 40 houses were raided by Turkish police who acts like military arm of the cult.
If you are a dissident in one of major markets of google, just don't trust to them and/ or freedom of speech. It works for Americans only.
These guys leak account info of freaking teenagers to keep well with an Islamo-fascist/ anti Semitic govt. And still abuses Ataturk case. Be happy, fresh, a more sinister Iran is established soon in East Europe, Ataturk's secular Turkey is long gone.