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If you are thinking about deploying .NET applications on a platform cloud and whacking them against an SQL Server database embedded in that platform cloud, Microsoft's The Cloud Formerly Known As Azure is not your only option. Amazon Web Services has fired up its own analog to Azure. The two new services, Amazon RDS for SQL …

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  1. Antony Riley
    Coffee/keyboard

    The Cloud Formerly Known As Azure

    You sir, owe me a new keyboard.

    1. tpm (Written by Reg staff)

      Re: The Cloud Formerly Known As Azure

      Was it coffee or cola?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Beg your pardon, but ....

    > begs the following question:

    Sigh. Reg writers used to be able to write their own language: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    MS could care less...

    as long as people are still using their software. The whole Azure cloud was a defensive mechanism by an old school client-server company to fend off open source cloud stacks.

    1. theblackhand

      Re: MS could care less...

      Are you sure?

      I suspect Amazon are saying give me all of your data and I will help you reduce your long term costs by moving you to these cheaper, non-MS database options. We'll even provide helpful migration serivces to get rid of those expensive licencing requirements... That's a much more business friendly option than "migrate all of your software to our platform to save money".

      MS jumped into "the cloud" because they saw companies were providing business models that matched what there customers were demanding (i.e. scalable usage models, per-user costs that could grow or shrink with the business, high availability for smaller organisations) rather than to directly fight off open source.

    2. Ragarath

      Re: MS could care less...

      Do you really think the "cloud" is anything other than client-server?

      If you do then try not listening to the marketing hype. Cloud is still client-server the server is just not yours. I still have yet to see something done in the cloud that cannot be done with what you call "client-server".

      But maybe I am just ignorant.

  4. Semaj
    FAIL

    Azure vs AWS

    But Azure has always been shit. SQL Server was (maybe still is) nobbled on it where as on AWS it's fully functional (with more besides).

    As for web applications - I'd much rather be able to RDP on and have access to all the server stuff (as you'd been able to do with AWS as long as I've been using it) than have to use the horrible, limited silverlight mess that Azure relies on. Not to mention that you have to redeploy the WHOLE thing just to make a single (persistent) change.

    Basically - Amazon aren't the underdog here so they don't need to "take on" Microsoft. If anything it's MS who are playing catch up.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Azure vs AWS

      Azure 1.3 does have the ability to use Remote Desktop Services to access Windows Azure roles.

      If you use a VM role you basically have complete control of a virtual server so if you can't upgrade part of your Application then that’s your fault not Azure's. As for making changes to applications built using web or worker roles surely that depends on how you structured the application. If you build all functionality into a single worker role then it’s not surprising you have to redeploy the whole thing to make a single change. If you split functionality up a bit into separate components then it supports on line upgrades of each component separately .

    2. Don Mitchell

      Re: Azure vs AWS

      You don't know what you're talking about.

  5. Syd

    Analysis Services?

    Are they planning to support SSAS? (Which The-Artist-Formerly-Know-As-Azure doesn't.)

  6. Don Mitchell

    EC2 vs Azure

    Amazon is dominating the cloud computing market. One place they cannot compete with Microsoft is in developing their own sophisticated software services, like MS Dynamics. And of course they are tying Azure services in with Win8.

    Azure itself is pretty cool OS technology. Culter's team spent a year just studying the formal requirements for geographically distributed data centers. They merged technology from NT, Hypervisor and (I'm guessing) the SQLOS layer. The scalability tests I've seen are surprising, way better than Linux and even better than NT at multicore parallel performance.

    What makes me skeptical about Microsoft is their executive management. I still would not be surprised if they fail. Their lasting impact may be the disporia of former Microsoft systems engineers, who are scattered throughout the industry today (for example, running EC2 at amazon). Systems engineering rules. You don't learn it in college, and it's not part of the open source culture, so if you want to built something big and complex, you gotta find those industrial experts.

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