"Makes you look cool in front of clients" is a valid business use in my book.
BOFH: Dawn raid on Fort BOFH
bofh_pic You know, sometimes I wish someone just had the balls to say they want a new iPad cos it looks cool. That they have no clue of what the f$*# they’d use it for, but their kids think they’re great and they can’t be stuffed forking out the money themselves for one so they figure the company should just get one and …
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Friday 23rd March 2012 13:10 GMT Steve Knox
Re: not...
No, he's a responsible manager who understands that if the primary use for the device is for relationship management (i.e, sales) then it's a sales expense and should be charged back to the sales department.
If the primary purpose of the device were for managing information flow and security, then it could be an IT expense. But since you've already admitted that the purpose is to look good to clients, it's a sales expense.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 15:36 GMT Jemma
Re: Err
Very true, but with one proviso, which my ex-bosses ex-boss found out to his cost.
Apparently this numty had been replacing 'out of date' or 'terminal hardware fault' equipment slightly more often than he should have been. The company of course, noticed nothing, and assumed all was hunky dory with this, despite a failure rate that would put the first generation SA80 to shame...
It all came to a head and the Police got involved when this nerk sold a laptop on ebay, that was supposed to be dead and gone without wiping any of the confidential company data and the buyer did the honorable thing (aka the stupid thing, whats the betting the average cop would have had them for receiving) and contacted said Police...
My boss then turned up for work to see his boss being escorted into a squad car and the rest is history.
I think they call that a salutory tale - tale of two idiots is more like it.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 15:20 GMT Nigel 11
Re: I nominate
Half a dozen power cables. Still perfectly OK, except that the EU has legislated that every piece of new equipment must be shipped with a new power flex. It's cheaper to recycle the old ones and to bin the new ones, because the old ones already have inventory and test record stickers attached and have already passed their PAT test.
Half a dozen Ethernet cables mangled and tangled to such an extent that the nearest bin beckons.
A pair of fetid trainers and/or socks
A Windows ME "Upgrade" kit
A charger with a wierd connector, possibly for a long-defunct mobile.
A dead mouse (the sort with a ball. Less often, the sort with two).
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Saturday 24th March 2012 12:45 GMT keithpeter
Re: I nominate
Or if they are 512Mb try Lightweight Portable Security? LPS is a linux distro intended for booting off a USB stick and comes with a windows script to write to a stick. The 'fat' version has OpenOffice and Firefox.
Looks quite impressive with the USAF logos and all the military jargon on the default Web browser page. One colleague at work thought I was moonlighting.
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Monday 26th March 2012 10:42 GMT Just Thinking
Failing to distinguish...
between pointless gadgets and obsolete items.
Most of my junk boxes are filled with things which saw plenty of use at the time, but have either been replaced by something better (eg a bigger memory stick) or are no longer needed because things have changed (I used my KVM switch every day in my old job because I worked from home. Now things have changed it is no use at all to me).
But we all make mistakes. Can't imagine why I bought a PDA - and worse still the docking station is still on my desk, plugged in. No idea where the PDA itself is.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 11:23 GMT Tony S
Cynical; moi?
Just too damned depressed for words.
I think that someone recorded a conversation I had earlier in the week, and has changed the names to protect the innocent, then put it out as fiction.
BTW, the box referred to was sat on the corner of the IT workbench this morning; it also contained 2 PS2 extension cables, an HP scanjet scanner missing its power lead, and a couple of floppy disks.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 14:00 GMT Echowitch
Re: Cynical; moi?
Sounds like the box under the bed in the spare bedroom at home. Which also features some hard drives that have been kept "just in case". A couple of old and non-functional USB sticks that the wife won't let me throw out as we "might need them", a selection of unmarked (but tatty looking) floppy disks, CD's. A collection of very old power cables that no one knows what they were ever connected to.
.....and one iomega zip drive, and a lone of phone cables :)
......hmm I sense a trip to the Recycling Centre this weekend hehe :D
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Friday 23rd March 2012 11:25 GMT bobbles31
Ah, back in the days
when I worked for an insurance company, where lunch started at about 11 and went on until the landlord at the local drinking establishment could pluck up the courage to tell us that we really should think about leaving because what with last orders having been about 3 hours ago maybe he should close up before the police come around and close him permanently, the CEO of said insurance company would insist on a new top of the range laptop every year. One year, when the companies PFY deposited his new laptop in his office and collected the old laptop he booted the old machine to be greeted by the "Welcome to Windows" wizard that you get when you use windows for the first time.
(sigh)
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Friday 23rd March 2012 11:32 GMT The New Turtle
Palm with flat battery (that forgot everything it every stored) anyone? There's usually so power supplies with strange voltages and/or US specific plugs, a PCMCIA modem, half a dozen floppy disks and some kind of drive module that was meant to be swapped out in a laptop so they could read floppies AND play CDs.
I'm not an IT professional, but I recognise everything there from the last round of being made redundant. That memory makes me express my discontent, and no amount of VP of R&D squishing helps.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 11:43 GMT Anonymous Coward
Some bastard's been looking in my box!
And before I even open the box, I PREDICT I WILL FIND:
an HP handheld – probably a Jornada;
about 10 proprietary interface cables, intertwined with about five telecom cables;
a PCMCIA modem card with broken connectors;
a docking station for a laptop he no longer has;
a set of shite computer speakers;
a bunch of manuals – at least one of which will be for a 1980s Mac;
one of those sticks for forcing a CD to eject; and
an unknown battery pack.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 11:44 GMT Anonymous Coward
OH thats too familiar!
Boss: "I need an iPad 3"
Me: "Hmmm Why?"
Boss: "Because the Sales Director has one, so I should too"
Me: "The sales Director has one because he does demos on it and emails etc, you know he actually uses it! Besides you already have an iPad2 you don't use according to the asset register!"
Boss: "I do?" whilst faking nonchalance..
Me: "*sigh* yes!"
Boss: "Well it must has been signed out incorrectly, I don't have it"
2 days later - entering the bosses office
Me: "Your new iPad is here, please sign this to say you received it!"
Boss: "_drool_"
Hand the offensive item over, set to leave his office and spot the box for his iPad2 so I scoop it up on my way out, return to my office, open box and its still in there, in it original wrapping, the fooking thing hadn't even been opened!
I checked on his new shiny and so far he has Angry Birds, Temple Run and some music and photos, he hasn't actually asked for his email etc to be setup yet, but apparently there is no money for a new monitor for me or the helldesk guys *sigh*
NB The sales director is a good guy and actually uses his new shiny ALLOT (he skipped the iPad2 as he was happy with his original iPad, he handed that to his junior upon receipt of his new one) so I cut him the appropriate slack, he has also arranged to get the new screens we need after some serious colluding!
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Friday 23rd March 2012 11:59 GMT Michael H.F. Wilkinson
The description of the box is spot on, as many have said.
I still have an old 8" floppy somewhere (staggering 128kB capacity). It's got (or at least had) a legit copy of CP/M 2.0 on it. I sometimes fancy lashing up an old 8" drive with a USB interface (where is that soldering iron), and see if I can "upgrade" someone to CP/M 2.0 running on some Z80 emulation software. Unfortunately, I doubt the drivers will be available.
Still, a man can dream.
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Saturday 24th March 2012 18:44 GMT Alain
Ah... old OSes on big floppies :-)
A breathe of nostalgia... the last OSes I've booted from these things were:
- UniFLEX 6809: such a good tiny Unix on a 8-bit processor, don't know if anyone here knows it, it was serving half a dozen ASCII terminals in 512K of memory (OK, when running on faster storage than floppies I have to say)
- C-CP/M 86 (Concurrent CP/M): the first non-Unix really multitasking O/S I've seen on x86, long before M$ had anything to offer. It had the same kind of virtual consoles Linux has.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 12:29 GMT DayDragon
Back on form i think
I read this and thought 'back on form, Simon'
"And then there’s the cost. The budget for the company’s 50-odd retail-priced iPads has to come from somewhere... and because everyone from the Boss up feels it’s crucial IT material and so shouldn’t come out of the department’s expense account – and since the Corporate Wasting-Money-on-Pointless-Shit account doesn’t exist – they just raid the IT Budget instead.
Even this wouldn’t matter if I didn’t know, deep down in my heart of hearts, that I’m going to find half of these devices with about quarter-of-an-hour's worth of use, stuffed into the back of a cupboard with a dead battery three years from now.
I’ve seen it happen many times. Some crusty from upper management retires, steps in front of a bus (or is helped in front of a bus by a friendly IT professional) and then suddenly a box full of IT detritus turns up in Mission Control in case we "want it for something"."
Funny because it's true.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 12:36 GMT Anonymous Coward
ah yes, here they are...
PCMCIA adaptor card and wireless dongle
Webcam with USB connector
External floppy/DVD/CD drive
Sub 3M Pixel digital camera
Some spare ink for a long discarded printer
Various power adaptors for defunct mobile phones, printer and external disks
Original OEM CDs for Windows95 and Visual Studio 6.0
Firewire cables and USB hub
Mouse and keyboard set with PS2 connectors
Parallel port cable
McGraw Hill HMTL 3.0 guide
Telephone modem cables for laptop (unopened)
ClipArt collection CDs
USB cables with connectors that don't seem to connect to anything
Unopened test sample of photo-paper A6 size
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Friday 23rd March 2012 12:53 GMT Anonymous Coward 15
Broken iPads shoved in cupboard.
eBay access obtained through a proxy, or through an exception due to being the BOFH.
iPad-dismantling tool and aftermarket Hong Kong batteries procured.
iPads repaired.
iPads sold on eBay on the sly. Waste taking up space is removed from cupboards, and moar money for the Friday beer fund.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 13:00 GMT Graham Bartlett
I've recently moved desks. Never got round to investigating the junk in the desk drawer until now...
CANcab interface cable
Bottle of Tippex (who still uses that?)
Manual for how to use an MS wireless mouse
1 Swedish krona
1 US dime and 2 nickels
Several first-aider badges
More business cards for the last bloke than you could use in a lifetime
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Friday 23rd March 2012 13:07 GMT Anonymous Coward
Box
Our own corporate box contained the following:
- USB External floppy drives (from when Dell stopped shipping PCs with floppy drives and everybody paniced)
- USB External CD drives (from when everyone suddenly wanted a netbook)
- Palm Tungsten PDA
- Alienware laptop (from the sales guy who wanted a top of the range laptop, then got IT to change it as it was to hot and the battery lasted 1/2 an hour)
- Docking stations for ancient Dell laptops
- Ancient Dell laptops (mostly broken)
- Parallel port Zip drive, couple of disks (one of which contains HR from 10 years ago...)
- Various PS2/serial port mice
- Various PS2 keyboards
- PCMCIA modems and wifi cards (from when laptops didn't have wifi built in)
- Boxes of v1. of the company software from 10 years ago
- Mousemats with the old company logo on
- Parallel cables, VGA cables
- Obscure laptop chargers with PS2-style connectors
- A conference phone
- A label printer
- A KVM switch (3 port, VGA/PS2/Serial)
- Install CDs for NT workstation 4 / Win2000
- Floppy disk installers for a Samba client
- Barcode readers still boxed
- Monitor bases
- Those screen things they used to put over CRTs to reduce glare
- A tamagotchi (presumably unwanted secret santa)
- A few Windows phones (the old 'Start' menu OS) with styluses missing
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Friday 23rd March 2012 13:10 GMT MRC1980
Boxes Pah!
I've got a pile around 10x10 meters of old and obsolete kit. Boxes of unopened Telecoms kit, A crate of CD's and floppies with old drivers which only work with 1 specific firmware release, about 20 various unused "broken" desktops, some kind of "essential" PBX exchange and 10 years worth of old hard disk and memory. Oh and a few RC helicopters.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 16:53 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Don't remind me about the box
Home?
The recent loft clearout found "the box":
- A BBC Master Compact micro
- A Mac Plus
- A Toshiba Satellite 486 laptop (from when they were bulletproof - after an initial CMOS hissy fit, it booted up fine!)
- A few broken laptops
- My first ever VGA monitor (complete with insulating tape holding the VGA cable at a certain angle such that it would make a connection with the main board)
- An old desktop case complete with razor sharp edges
- Some sort of tower PC that I never remembered building...
- The obligatory Zip drive
- PCMCIA CD drive (for that old Toshiba laptop)
- PCMCIA ethernet card (it didn't have ethernet on board)
- An old BT router. Before that plonker who finds the girls hotspot was on the scene
- A 2007 organiser brand new in package.
- Symantec Internet Security 2000-and-something. Binned.
- Office 97 boxed. Might keep/ebay.
- A TV card RF/analogue
- A huge manual for Windows for Workgroups 3.11 / Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.1. Back when MS printed decent manuals.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 13:36 GMT Steve 48
And...
Add to that a whole pile of "Lightscribe" disks that the MD wanted 'cos paper labels or marker pen are naff, whereas having a unusable for 25 minutes whilst the disk is being titled with "Holiday Pics" is so cool that only 6 out of 350 disks have been used, three of which were me setting up and demonstrating the process!
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Friday 23rd March 2012 15:21 GMT Darryl
You guys are lucky!
Every box that shows up in my office has almost one full set of install floppies (25-ish) for Lotus SmartSuite 95 and something that sort of resembles a wired handsfree kit for a mobile phone from the same vintage. The optional items include an owner's manual for a CRT monitor and a dried-out replacement ribbon for a vintage dot matrix printer.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 15:31 GMT IT Hack
Re: You guys are lucky!
Oldest bit of kit I have from work was a set of 5 1/4 floppies with some version of DOS (I think Research Machines - picked them up from school in 1983ish) on them circa the big bang era. Hardware wise - a couple of HP J2611 hubs from the ancient times.
To celebrate the 'good old days'.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 15:55 GMT Helldesk Dogsbody
Re: Darned youngsters.
I'm not quite as bad as that but I do have my first hard drive - 4 MB capacity on a full length ISA controller card as well as a couple of ISA NICs with BNC connectors.
As far as iDevices are concerned the company officially has two for testing purposes and nobody gets one at company expense. You want a shiny iThingie go pay for it yerself!
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Friday 23rd March 2012 15:51 GMT Anonymous Coward
Opens desk draw
I have had the same pedistal for 11 years
- 2 laptop hard drives
- 3 proprietary phone data cables
- 1 spare phone battery
- Inumerable <128MB USB memory sticks with various brands
- A cradle for a nokia 6310i (<sniff> I miss that phone)
- stack of CD roms with drivers for various hardware
- Bottle of honey and mustard dressing
- Pepper mill
Quiz... Which two of these items have been used since Xmas?
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Friday 23rd March 2012 17:59 GMT Daniel B.
An HP Jornada
The one time I had one "assigned" by my employer, was because we got a handful of Jornadas from one of those boxes.
But hey, that one had useful stuff like:
- a SCSI PCI card
- internal SCSI cable
- DDS4 DAT drive
- a Palm Tungsten
some other stuff, but those are the ones that we actually used.
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Friday 23rd March 2012 22:14 GMT Admiral Grace Hopper
I still keep a reel-to-reel tape kicking around to scare the youngsters with. I used to laugh at the old fart who kept a reel of punch-tape for similar purposes. I am horribly aware of what I have become. And why was there no Centronics lead in the box? Surely everyone has one of those somewhere?
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Saturday 24th March 2012 02:13 GMT jon 72
Lest we forget..
All the assorted junk that used to perch on top of the old crt monitors, oh the tears throughout the office when the IT dept upgraded everybody to flat screen and made the sylvanian families homeless. The following morning I was screaming as over two hundred assorted furry critters, gonks and small teddy bears re-appeared in my office with a post-it note asking for asylum. I've still got them lurking in several boxes.
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Saturday 24th March 2012 06:19 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: 8 1.5" floppies.
Oh I see I fucked up on the de(st/s)(c/r)(u/i)ption 8.5" floppy
"the program in that photo is called "pagination" is what runs off that particular disc I tooked the photo off of. She runs on the 2x @ dual 8.5" floppy drives (what does that take up 3'?) + the CPU box, iut's a laundrymat of power sucking hell for floppy disk0rz. Wee ha ha.
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Saturday 24th March 2012 12:08 GMT Anonymous Coward
I work for a WEEE waste/refurbishment company
so I see a lot of your old junk. We've had half a dozen Mac Classics with failed safety test stickers, an Epson HX-20, couple of CUB monitors for the BBC Micro, a sealed set of Windows 3.11, a boxed set of MS Office 4.2 (somebody actually bought that on eBay), Token Ring cards, a fossil record through the ages of tape backup drives, a PPC640, a Compaq Portable III, a fecking great LED sign panel and of course lots more.
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Saturday 24th March 2012 23:36 GMT Destroy All Monsters
Emptying the backroom cupboard.
Well I just finished taking apart a HP laptop with nonfunctional screen, two ACERs about to fall apart and a DELL Inspiron from before the war with fully dead batteries.
I now have a large bag of metal/pastic/mainboard/cabling/screws trash as well as an assortment of loose CPUs, TFT screens, harddisks [the 20GB IBM Travelstar from the DELL rattles, so I think the heads aren't properly parked], RAM SODIMMs, two WiFi modules and an ATI Rage module of 2001. As well as a Li-Ion battery packs.
The recycling center beckons.
Can I do anything useful with the WinXP/Win2K keys?
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Sunday 25th March 2012 02:04 GMT skeptical i
No SyQuest disks?
Before Zip, there was SyQuest: 5-3/16ths inch cartridges (the actual disks are ~5.25") that weigh almost a pound each and contained a whopping 44MB of data (they got up to 200MB last I knew, before Zip walked 'em off the portable storage market plank and into the briny deep).
Also, how about a "mouse" that has the ball under the thumb instead of underneath (Kensingtom, I think)? No potential tendonitis issues there, no sirree.
"Superfloppies" that could somehow store much more data than the average floppy but required a superfloppy drive else they'd be written upon like a "regular" floppy and any superness removed therefrom.
Various scanners, from then-top-of-the line Sony beasties with a big fat SCSI connexion to the cheap-jack free-with-a-purchase USB connected ones.
I don't suppose there's any way to quickly strip old power/ connector cables of their casings and harvest the copper within, is there. Damn.
Punch cards: my dad always had a stack of 'em on his desk and I always liked making more holes in 'em. Oops.
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Monday 26th March 2012 11:18 GMT Andy 115
Re: No SyQuest disks?
I don't suppose there's any way to quickly strip old power/ connector cables of their casings and harvest the copper within, is there. Damn.
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A friend was offered a machine only last week for doing just that!
Apparently it worked on the principal of chopping the cable into very short lengths (approx 0.5mm long) then vibrating (I think) to separate the PVC from the copper, depositing each in a container, copper for weighing in, PVC for making into traffic cones IIRC.
He was offered it for a couple of grand.
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Sunday 25th March 2012 17:09 GMT elgeebar
@skeptical i... "I don't suppose there's any way to quickly strip old power/ connector cables of their casings and harvest the copper within, is there."
Electricians used to save their scrap cable then have a bonfire before taking it to the scrapie... Obviously frowned upon these days due to the billowing clouds of noxious smoke it creates... most scrapie's I've dealt with recently, will take insulated copper so don't worry about it.
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Sunday 25th March 2012 23:58 GMT Meph
IT Archaeology
I see your box of random ancient IT gear, and raise you a matched pair of 512Mb EDO RAM in original packaging, _with_ the original installation instructions no less.
They were salvaged along with an ancient file server with 8 x 25Gb SCSI disks that had regrettably not survived their mothballing experience.
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