Forget Atlantis, what about Rapture?
Would You Kindly visit these coordinates in Google Maps? 63 2 N, 29 55 W
Does that still exist in Google Earth? Hmmmm?!!!1!one
The latest update to Google Earth has resolved the software error that caused some to suspect the lost city of Atlantis had been found in the Atlantic Ocean. For the last three years, Google Earth has shown what appears to be a grid on the sea floor between the Canary Islands and the mid-Atlantic ridge that bisects the ocean. …
Arthur Clarke did it first. Some scientists were spraying sulphur out of a nozzle on the moon, to measure the moon's very slight atmosphere IIRC. The public were told the effects would produce a glow visible from earth and that going out to watch would be a good idea.
It turned out that someone had taken a fat bung to replace the nozzle with a "Coca Cola" shaped one.
I think that story's in the "Tales from the White Hart" collection, I need to check that though........
Just over half of the moon's surface is visible from my back garden with my telescope (given enough time, and the various wobbles that allow us to see a bit more than half). Using bigger kit, and the odd lunar orbiter, you can see a lot more. It is also a lot easier to walk on the moon's surface (ask Neil), than on the bottom of the oceans, thousands of meters below (ask any scuba diver). Getting to the bottom of the ocean is relatively simple, of course. Getting there alive is quite a different matter.
Yeah, on that subject, I saw a headline the other day something like this: "Jobs report could help Obama in election" ...and I'm like, damn, the guy's been dead for months and he's still shakin' things up. If he's having this much impact down here, imagine what he's up to up there - I can see it now: He does a presentation to Heaven's host - God thinking of investing, and Jesus is looking at an iPhone, saying, "Damn, this thing looks pretty good... but I'm gonna have to get pockets sewn into my robe. Who the hell makes these things, anyway?"
I mean, I've heard of people getting into politics after their business careers are over, but this is ridiculous.
You've also got to wonder what he used to file the report, not to mention where he filed it from. I guess we'll probably have to wait until either death or the iPhone 6 to find out.
You've been a great audience. I'll be here all week. You should try the steak, but only if you think you can get a conviction.
I was under the impression that the best guess of Atlantis was that there was a factor of ten mistranslation from Egyptian to Greek. With the factor of ten mistranslation Atlantis should have been located 2500 miles west of egypt, and that it had been 9000 years ago. Except, it's not there and there is no record of it.
If you accept that the translator messed up, it becomes 250 miles and 900 years which fits with Atlantis having been the Minoan empire, and it's destruction being caused by the eruption on Santorini which destroyed 75% of the landmass of the island and caused a 150 foot tusnami.
I won't pretend to be an expert in that area of history, but in my view the Minoan explanation is the most likely. We don't even know what the Minoans called themselves because the volcanic eruption totalled their home island, destroyed their powerful fleet (150 foot tidal waves don't mix with wooden ships) and wiped out everything within about 150 miles of the shore line which didn't leave many of their trading partners there either, bearing in mind the tiny size of states at the time. Virtually nothing is known of their society, but what we do know does actually seem to match with the recorded stories of Atlantis.
It's good enough for me, anyway.
I'm kind of surprised people obsessing about Atlantis wouldn't have known that one.
The Santorini/Thera eruption and consequent tsunami is a pretty well-known suggestion for the origin of the myth. However, the archaeologists say that Minoan civilization survived the catastrophe, although possibly weakened, since it was conquered by Myceanean invaders some time in the following decades.
The related culture on the island of Thera itself was destroyed. Watch this:
look at the evidence and the description, Atlantis was Santorini before the 1600BC eruption.
Plato described a city ringed with water ways with only one entrance from the open sea, Santorini looked just like that due to it being built inside the caldera formed by a previous eruption and the emergence of a large island in the middle of the caldera following that eruption.
The 1600BC eruption destroyed all that, but the citizens did get some warning of it since no one has found any bodies yet in the ruins that remain on the island.
But its much more fun to annoy the tin foil hatters with even dafter stories since the truth does seem kinda boring
Plato did not say "beyond the mouth of the Mediterranean" as the article would have one believe, he actual said something like 'beyond the pillars of Hercules'. It happens that today this mainly refers to Gibraltar and the Atlas mountains, but in Plato's time there were many navigation markers that were called 'the Pillars of Hercules'.
Thera/Santorini may also be the explanation for the biblical 'pillar of fire' as it is likely to have been large enough to be seen from Egypt. It also probably caused the day into night with the ash clouds and this would have led to the water turning red and the subsequent plagues of flies, frogs and stuff as the fish died in the ash laden water leading to flies breeding on the dead fish and frogs feeding on the flies.
"Thera/Santorini may also be the explanation for the biblical 'pillar of fire' as it is likely to have been large enough to be seen from Egypt. It also probably caused the day into night with the ash clouds and this would have led to the water turning red and the subsequent plagues of flies, frogs and stuff as the fish died in the ash laden water leading to flies breeding on the dead fish and frogs feeding on the flies."
NOOOOO it was magic. Stop trying to rationalize it. How do you even explain the part where god sends in the orcs to attack?
Why would their be a mistranslation? Numbers are the cornerstone of written language, one of the first things learned when picking up new languages, and it'd be kind of hard to screw that up.
The most likely explanation is that Plato made it up as a thought experiment and tool for discussing government and society. There is zero in the way of other contemporary sources, zero hard evidence, and for the described society to exist at all would upturn vast amounts about what we know of culture back in them days.
Personally, I'm sticking with William of Occam on this one.
Not easy. We're talking about someone translating a fairly in-depth philosophical work, here. To think that they'd get a simple number wrong and mix up a tadpole with a pointy finger or whatever is pushing the boundary of logic. Especially as numbers are used quite heavily in the text. We'd have to have a translator who could do the job perfectly, apart from sometimes reading numbers completely wrong. Again: Occam's razor points firmly to there being no actual Atlantis.
Ok so the grid lines are caused by sonar mapping from surface ships. Why have sonar ships performed a grid mapping of this particular chunk of ocean floor? What's significant enough that caused somebody to pay a lot of money for some ships to sail back and forth looking at the seabed?
Awfully quick to reply to that one, eh? It's just common sense you'd ONLY have posted if you were WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HIDE THE TRUTH!
And isn't it a little suspicious how *reasonable* that explanation is? Seems awfully convenient, doesn't, to have an explanation like that riiiiight at the ready when it's needed.... But has he explained himself yet? Has anyone said one solitary word to explain these troubling findings??
No! Not a single word! I ask you again - WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?!!
Are we maybe thinking too deep?
What if the lines are from above? ie chemtrails? doesn't it make a load more sense that they are lines of chemicals being sprayed by the secret airforce of the New World Order in a bid to test a plan in a remote area of the ocean which they will later apply elsewhere?
"It’s a sad fact that we know more about the surface of the moon than we do about our own terrestrial ocean-floor terrain."
I can see the moon most nights from my back yard it's hardly surprising I know it better.
It'd really be a sad day if the ocean floor was flying high over my back yard.
But if you want to mount a mirror some place so my telescope can look into the ocean let me know I'll take a look. until then get over it.
When I first saw this I thought it was way too large for a city grid so it was a bit silly discussing it in those terms. I have since read what Plato actually wrote (or rather a translation thereof) and it is interesting to note that as well as the city he described a rectangular network of canals which fed the city, covering an area roughly 400Km x 600Km. That makes the google map artefact rather too small, if anything.
I always wondered about those who base their beliefs of a "lost city of atlantis" on Plato's accoubt Atlantis. He speaks of a continent larger than Libya and Asia minor and when he says Libya he means Africa. So Plato spoke of a vast continent and the believers think in terms of a city. They really don't think big do they?
Maybe Plato's account tells us that way back in the day some sailors had discovered the Americas.
I think the size given by Plato is a little over the top, but it isn't needed for your point about the Americas. Plato's account is quite clear about the fact that Atlantis was set in the real ocean beyond the straits, and that beyond Atlantis was another land mass which he called a continent. That would be the Americas - so yes I agree with your point.
"a vast continent, larger than Libya and Asia Minor combined"
By my rough calculations, the area of Libya and Asia Minor combined comes to about 2.3 million km^2. That's less than a third the size of Australia. So not really all that "vast". About the size of Greenland, so it would be in the running for "largest island", I suppose.
(It's about 110 Waleses.)
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