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US researchers have concluded that there's little evidence to support the existence of the legendary Gräfenberg Spot - a bundle of nerves located in the front wall of the vagina which can supposedly cause the earth to move. The team - led by urologist Dr Amichai Kilchevsky of Yale-New Haven Hospital - trawled "clinical trials …
Amused by: "The King's College study shows a lack of respect for what women say."
Sure, coz the existence of an anatomical structure is best determined by what someone says, particularly the one person on the planet who is physically incapable of looking. (Or can French women do that? I think we should be told.)
The College where Quackery is King.
Where Physical ailments are re-branded as psycho logical sicknesses.
You would think these guys are Scientologists with the way they corrupt real world medical evidence, Maybe they are...
one day they will get the medical record bent so far out of shape that you get admitted to hospital with a broken leg and get sanctioned to the nearest looney bin with some silly made up name psycho-limb mumbojumbo breakdown.
(the Quacks from KC are already doing this with MS/ME/CFS (and now EHS/Microwave sickness))
This book describes in detail female anatomy, ah hem down there.
It speculates that the G spot is the base of the clitoris (which is actually a larger organ than the button type bit), mostly hidden under the flesh of the first lip. See wiki diagram
What an outrageous statement - if we can't see it, you can't feel it ??
I think people know their own names, like they know their own bodies. They do not need visual proof of a known thing. I don't care if it uses the same density of nerves, or if it puts more power down them, or if there are strong tissue differences or none. It is a sensory thing, and as such exists merely if noticed.
For what its worth, there is a noticeable physical structure, but that may not be universal.
would any of you care to explain what is wrong with my post above?
Surely we are talking of the existence of an erogenous zone here, which need not necessarily have a distinct physical form. I see the denial of its existence as akin to saying there is no physical evidence for you having your own name, whatever your insistence.
the way you open your statement basically says "just because I cannot prove in anyway that I saw that alien taking my cousin it doesn't mean the alien was not real"...
the g-spot is supposed to be a physical area where a bunch of nerves congregate and is that gathering of nerve terminations that makes it move the earth... if it turns out to be a huge placebo for women so be it but it is definitely NOT what the g-spot (as originally described at least)
... I for one do not care what these people say... I will continue my field research looking for it!!!! LOL
- No it is not a ghost, but a thing that is human sensory thing, a perception. Consider it like "ticklishness", or have we determined that that doesn't exist either?
My point is that as a phenomenon, as an erogenous zone, it exists, even if not necessarily in all women.
The physical form similarly, just "some" evidence is all that is needed - even if it is rare, it exists. Anyway, there seems to be quite a lot of physiological variability in this sort of thing, try wikipedia on the subject.
I bet all the researchers were men - none bothered tp read a manual, and they certainly wouldn't stop and ask directions.
(full disclosure - I'm male, and I'm mocking my fellow males)
So while researchers may claim it is purely imaginary, the results are are unambiguously positive when you do find it. Except when they're religous!!!
Could it be the G-spot is actually a logic switch? Not one point but several that, when stimulated correctly result in the toggling of this switch?
We know that the human body uses such switches to pinpoint sensations, and is why we can experience phantom sensations/pains/pleasure. So could that be why this spot is so elusive?
Hmm... this could require some serious investigation...
"Furthermore, radiographic studies have been unable to demonstrate a unique entity, other than the clitoris, whose direct stimulation leads to vaginal orgasm"
So that fact that I can make my girlfriend orgasm without touching her clitoris means she's faking it ? In which case, she's a bloody good actress.
Just because we don't understand something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Perhaps if you treated the lady's pleasuredome with more care instead of some sort of biological box of tricks to be tinkered with, you might have more luck you daft gits!
To quote John Cleese in the Meaning of Life, "Give her a kiss boy! You don't have to go charging headlong for the clitoris! Start her off with a simple kiss first!"
Okay, I'll bite: How many failures did you have?
And how do you know they all had an orgasm?
How does a woman know she's had an orgasm? This isn't a boast, but a former girlfriend claimed she'd had them before, then was was rather surprised when she had the real thing (well, that's how she put it, anyhow).
First of all, it's the only thing you cannot bite :-). I think your former GF noticed it felt different, which is not unusual. A vaginal orgasm and a G-spot stimulated one reportedly feel different.
Now, I naturally always state that there is a degree of uncertainty and that I thus need to reconfirm the data. In general, test subjects declare themselves not inconvenienced by my need for accuracy, and actually come to insist on a spread of sample data..
Sounds good to me - I continue doing this research for nothing.
And as for all the - I assume - men - asking how does a woman know she's had an orgasm, I can only say in my experience(of spreading joy to the opposite sex) , it's a whole body experience...
Typical men :) Instead of saying "we don't know what the G-spot is" they say "the G-spot does not exist". From the Richard Dawkins school of science.
There's definitely *something* there, according to reported subjective experience during my informal scientific research on the subject. Even if it's just a hallucination, it's still a real phenomenon.
Well, speaking as someone who is a female-type person, as opposed to nearly everyone opining here, it IS an observable phenomenon for me. G-spot stimulation is quite different to general vaginal simulation, and an orgasm involvinng the g-spot is qualitatively different to one that is external-clitoris only. And every woman I know of (and have shagged) who has a sensitive g-spot area says exactly the same thing.
Given the extent of the clitoris, I wouldn't be surprised if it's involved, but it really does feel quite different to external stimulation. Perhaps the deeper nerve structures relay a different sensation type.
So anyway, if the study was to "prove" an actual unique anatomical structure exists, well, evidently there isn't. But individual sensitivity is different - we all know of people who find having their ears blown into an erotic sensation, whereas others would like to punch the blower in the face - and so for the researchers to say (if they are, not having read the paper) that the *sensation* categorically doesn't exist is cobblers.
"It turns out that cats have special wiring! The wiring travels from the brain to the muscles in the voice box, and this wiring is able to vibrate the muscles so that they act as a valve for air flowing past the voice box. The muscles work both during inhalation and exhalation, which creates the impression that cats can purr continuously. The air passes through the valve, which opens and closes rapidly to create the purring sound."
... many researchers spend entirely too much time in the lab, and not enough time at home with their spouse/sig.other.
Hint: Stop correlating data for an hour or so once a week. Spend the time finding your partner's G-spot, instead. You'll both be happier.
 Several times a week is better ... or so says SHMBO.
 With appropriate nods to my Gay male friends ;-)
I made the post around 3:30 AM California time ... I was spelling my Foreman keeping an eye on a mare who was foaling. Vitnery reports that Mother & filly are healthy and well ... The currently unnamed filly is discovering rain. I love having babies on the ground at this time of year :-)
 Maybe he should have been spell-chscking me ;-)
 I'm leaning towards `MsBee`, purely out of nostalgia ...
Which seemed to involve a very small and skewed sample of people. A bit of careful research suggests that it is at least partially a learned reaction, that you won't find it unless you've been actively trying to hunt it down, and that not everyone finds the sensation particularly pleasant anyway.
Honestly, this is almost as daft as the whole debate over female ejaculation (and look at the current attitude of the Aussie censors towards that!)
No doubt it was a vigorous study and the scientists stuck it out to the very end, and really inserted themselves into their work. After many oral dissertations, back breaking labour in the field was required. Working many late nights they couldn't quite get a handle on it, but they laid out the foundations for more in-depth research when a proper conclusion can be reached.
... Mrs Woods says it's only hard to find because it only becomes active after one's partner has cooked an elaborate meal AND TIDIED THE KITCHEN BACK TO THE STATE IT WAS IN BEFORE.
I can't tell if she's right, because I'm only allowed to look for it when those conditions have been fulfilled.
These Scientist do not get out much, not hard to hit the G, just experience and understanding the emotions of your partner.
A good partner wants to please their partner, it is a thrill to feel the emotions of your partner enjoying being pleased.
Funny how much of these silly scientist are paid to do this study, lol
Ask her how and where she likes it and 10sec (or whatever the El Reg unit is) later you will have a squeaking,squirting Earth Mover that will test your bedsprings to the limit or beyond. So what´s the f***ing point of this kind of research? Do this boffins ever talk to the wife? Christ!
I'm a girl and I know for a fact that the g-spot is real. If you insert your fingers curved slightly upwards into the vagina, you should feel a slight pleasant increase in pressure, that's the g-spot. I'm surprised that so many people know so little about something so obsessed over. I mean, for fuck's sake I even found a goddamned youtube video on how to find it... http://youtu.be/Ee8kjkGb0RY
It's like the flat-Earthers, or those who believed we were the center of the universe. "We've done extensive investigation, and all evidence up until now says the Earth is flat and the center of the universe." Idiots. Of *course* by sifting through previous studies that have been criticised you're going to find a preponderance of "evidence" for exactly what's gone before. It's obvious. Was that ever in dispute? How about a study that throws everything out the window, including preconceptions, and actually starts doing trials and collating new empirical data?
The first time I found the G-spot it was pretty obvious. I hit that spot (quite by accident) and my wife suddenly went into a screaming orgasm. Granted, I'd been knuckle deep for a couple minutes at that point, so she was already warmed up, but still... Further *ahem* testing has shown that there is, in fact, something special about that particular spot.
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