fix now....nuff said
Victims of iPhone theft have discovered that remotely wiping the nicked kit won't stop iMessage content being delivered to the thief, who can continue to respond under the owner's name. The flaw was spotted by one David Hovis, whose wife had her iPhone lifted and promptly deactivated the mobile number, remotely wiped the data …
Probably, but not necessarily. If the perp KNOWS he got stolen stuff because he bought it from a fence or a super-great deal, yes. But I can imagine a retailer receiving stolen kit and selling it as new to boost his profit margins. In that case, no. But if that's the case I would also expect him to immediately go to the police with his sales receipt, turn over the kit, and request an investigation of the retailer.
Me and the missus both use an iPhone, after recent experiences we both turned iMessage off. I was abroad, she was texting me but I never received anything since I forgot to tun on roaming data on my iPhone. And unlike "basic" texting, she never got an "unable to deliver" message, and I never got the texts she sent once roaming data was enabled. So we're happy to pay for our messages, since we're sure they'll (eventually) get where they are supposed to be.
After reading these reports I can only conclude that iMessage should be turned off by default. Nice to have, but pretty useless if you want to have a reasonable chance that your message gets there.
I send messages to UK from abroad (where I live) almost daily, to iphone users from my iphone. Sometimes one of them and sometimes not is using data roaming, rather unpredictably and sometimes I am and sometimes not. In my limited experience, we have not lost any messages yet.
Not much of a "wiping", now, is it? If the phone still functions AT ALL after being "wiped", then it wasn't "wiped". When I "wipe" a hard drive, I overwrite every disk cluster with 0s about 7 times. Now THAT's a "wipe". Anything less and data is recoverable ... ergo, the device has not been "wiped".
But maybe that's too simple for Apple to understand? Maybe they're still working to improve on the concept, and then patenting it, before integrating their innovative new "wiping" idea into iOS8?
RIM actually blocks a stolen BlackBerry's PIN so it can't be used by thieves. Using your new Blackberry and restoring your last backup file from your nicked BB will result in all your contactlist receiving and updating their contactlist to have your new PIN.... and this is done automagically. Same thing when you switch Blackberries.
The fact that the iPhone isn't doing this shows that security isn't really Apple's concern. EPIC FAIL on Apple's part!
for any i message, droid message, win message, raspberry message software and service, it is basically what is mine is mine, what is yours is mine and what is everyone else's is mine and if I leak it it is your fault and if I choose to give it away you have just agreed to that.
So what issue would a provider have with not wiping or allowing messages to continue being delivered? No skin off their nose and its your fault for not wiping your missing phone properly.
Turns out that iMessage uses the stored number in the My Number section in the Phone settings - which is not necessarily the same number the Network is using.
This number is picked up when a new sim is inserted. However if as I did you insert the Sim before the number porting is finished it uses the original sim number and not your ported one.
The phone was reported a stolen and deactivated, yet it could still connect to the network and send/receive messages ?
What's the use of deactivating the bloody thing then ?
I thought that, when you report your phone as stolen, the phone network operators would refuse connections from that phone. That should mean that, even if the phone is not wiped, it is nothing more than a shiny brick with a screen.
If that is not the case, then what deterrent is there to make the thief's activity useless ?
Like WhatsApp, iMessage in principle gives the US free access to the SMS traffic that otherwise remains in a country as it all has to happen over servers in the US.
However, I *have* experimented with it, so it probably would be A Good Thing(tm) if Apple could tidy this up. While they are at it, they could also drop the requirement to enable location data disclosure to Apple before you're entitled to use the remote wipe process of iCloud - there is no need for it.
AFAIK, coercion to obtain non.essential private data is actually illegal under EU privacy laws
I consider it a security risk as well, because WhatsApp requires you to exchange mobile numbers. I don't like to dole away my mobile number to the world+dog; MSN and BBM PINs sure, I can block annoying people if I need to and they would still be ignorant of my actual phone number.
Oh, and by the way WhatsApp is buggy on non-US numbers. It suffers from artificial stupidity, it tacks on a leading 1 on our phones! so instead of, say
WhatsApp stores the ID as
The provider only blocks the imei in the country of purchase, not worldwide...hence the majority of stolen phones end up in countries of the 419 region.
Also, if you bought it from Apple, why would the provider bother blocking the imei? no loss to them, maybe even a new customer to boot!
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