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Red Hat has broadened access to Ceylon, its JVM-based programming language intended to overcome the limitations of Java. The Red Hat team behind Ceylon has unveiled a website,, opened up access to the Ceylon git repositories and delivered a pre-release build of an Eclipse-based IDE. Red Hat’s Gavin King has …


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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward


    another JVM-based Java replacement

    ironic really when one of the much-touted secondary benefits of Java is it's ubiquity. Guess that's not so highly prized as was once thought.

  2. Ru

    Elephants, eh?

    The Postgres logo has been around for a good few years. Or does that not count cos its only a head?

  3. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

    Had to happen

    1: Someone invents a nice, simple new language that concentrates on the essentials and leaves out the unnecessary stuff that makes older languages hard to use.

    2: Over time people realise that the "unnecessary stuff " was there for a reason, so it gets bolted back on as an ugly wart. Eventually the clean new language is a warty, twisted mess that is just as impenetrable as the ones it replaced.

    3: Then someone invents yet another simple new language that leaves out different "unnecessary stuff".

    4: Goto* 2:

    *Yes, Prof. Dijkstra, but it always gets put back in, eventually.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    > If you're interested in contributing to Ceylon, now is a really great time to get involved,

    Or in other words, my attention span is reaching its limit and would like someone else to take it on and make it useful/fix its bugs

  5. Brad Ackerman
    Paris Hilton

    Parsed as "red-hot Cylon sauce"

    And wondered why they're facilitating Baltar's pwnership of the defense mainframe.

    Back to the actual topic, I see some nice features... but we've already got Clojure, Scala, JRuby, and even Groovy for keeping the JVM and access to existing libraries while ditching the bad bits (i.e., the Java language). Life just likes to keep reenacting xkcd #927.

    Paris, because Number Six was busy frakking Head Gaius.

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