I have been using Cmail and have found it far superior to anything else.
- Glenn Davis Doctor G
Gmail is emerging as a threat to the big boys in the enterprise email industry, despite holding just one per cent of the market and Google's refusal to tweak its service to suit individual customers. The Chocolate Factory also faces a bitter battle with Microsoft in the email cloud space - a war that could trample over other …
Oy, Google is way eviler than Apple. Why they control the flow of information! Apple only controls the flow of money - the precious - "look, shiny!" demographic, previously devoid of life goals and who can now adhere to the mac lifestyle.
Think of it this way. You can ignore an Apple product, but what other search provider are you going to turn to? Bing? Please. Same with facebook. If you don't like it don't use it. I don't. Haven't been invited to a party in about 3 years, but I still have my dignity!...
Oh, and don't tell me you still think Microsoft is evil. I'm always amazed how much cool stuff they churn out on those PDCs and BUILDs and what have you. Really cool, like lambda-unwinding-awaits and... okay, this Build was a mild let down... but that doesn't make them evil. Also it's kind of nice that everyone just uses Office and people believe they are hot stuff just because they had a crack at VBA. Hurray for conformity!
In fact the real evil - horns and pitchfork - company on that list is Oracle. Oy, they lock in just about every other company on the planet, and their databases don't even have IDENTITY properties. What's up with that? Horrible service, insane prices. Suing everyone.
I have some doubts as to the seriousness of the rivalry. What seems to be ignored here is that many enterprises also care for another major factor: reliability. Not just for the product itself, also the company behind it.
And I think this is where things can go wrong for Google; how well does it treat its business partners? Lets first focus on the obvious: Google partners with several companies to push their Android OS forward and suddenly, totally out of the blue, they're part of the competition themselves. MS have also pulled some stunts in the past (starting their own hardware line for example) but IMO that wasn't fully comparable.
And what about all those Google resellers who started complaining? Eventually what happened was that Google locked down the entire forum and people were basically shut up. Keep well in mind that this involved the market place; but the same kind of construction exists for application resellers; the people which might sell these Google solutions on the Enterprise in the first place.
Next; what's in it for the customers ?
Its hard to deny that MS has a massive advantage here; all their online services are already heavily tied into their Office suite. So should a company which is already using MS Office (not that unlikely) suddenly decide for one or the other the main advantage here is that MS' solutions would seemingly "blend in" without too much change or extra training required.
Finally, I think MS' biggest overall advantage is their accessibility and transparency, and the way they treat resellers in general.
A Google business partner only seems to exist on the Enterprise. You can become a "partner" of some sorts, but that seems to be more tied into becoming a reseller or market place user / seller. As a Google reseller, what do you sell? Google apps, Google maps or Google earth. And here you see Google working on semantics.. Because you can get yourself a label to show the world: "Authorized Enterprise reseller", "Premier Enterprise reseller", "Authorized SMB reseller", "Premier SMB reseller".
Whatever option you chose its going to be an investment for you. Read: it costs money! Also keep in mind that this isn't about semantics alone; A SMB reseller aims at companies with 250 employees or less. Naturally also has to pay less.
Microsoft otoh has its partner membership opened up for any kind of company. No matter if you're a big or a small company; if you're a partner you're a partner. And will even be mentioned as such on their forums; your company name besides your own name clearly mentioned to be a Partner. Without costs... (lets be realistic; running a company costs money too you know).
But most of all a partner is a partner. As soon as one wants to start selling MS licenses all he has to do is become a member of the MS Partner network (free of charge) and contact a distributor. None of that "premier reseller" crap. A partner can sell solutions to anyone he wants.
Well, who has the better options here ?
That is of course a personal opinion but mine is that MS' whole setup is much more appealing for business. Also because it can attract small and enterprise sized companies alike, and treats them as being equally important.
So quite frankly.. A serious rival? I'll believe it when I see it.
Google is a rival to MS, no question about it, but not on every market out there.
There are some things that a company should hold close to itself and email is one of them. I still have reservations about sales (sfdotcom) and finance data (there are some SaaS variants I might consider). But when those auditors or lawyers turn up, some data you just need to have on hand immediately.
Plus try explaining to your CEO that someone has access to his ummm webmail and there is nothing you can do about it.
OK can we have a top 10 cloud email providers review please. Can't be assed to do it myself but is definitely good content for ElReg. Seems theres definitely some good startups that need the exposure judging by previous posts.
Can we fill the rest of the thread up with suggestions to be reviewed and criteria for them to be reviewed by - should give the vulture something to get its beak into ;)
Assume that 500 companies e-mail is all hosted on the same server, accessible from the internet. There is more incentive to gain illicit access there than, say, my corporate mail server stored theoretically safely on my network.
Imagine being sold access to 500 company’s e-mails, similar to Botnets? That could be worth investing in, for your average double dealing crook.
When an email is not private with personal delivery is it destined for public knowledge. That is the way the Virtual Basic Machinery is Programmed.
The true significance of highly sensitive control information, out in the open and roaming, normally flies way over the heads of those with no interest or knowledge of highly sensitive control algorithms/methodologies/mechanisms.
After offering free G Suite apps for more than a decade, Google next week plans to discontinue its legacy service – which hasn't been offered to new customers since 2012 – and force business users to transition to a paid subscription for the service's successor, Google Workspace.
"For businesses, the G Suite legacy free edition will no longer be available after June 27, 2022," Google explains in its support document. "Your account will be automatically transitioned to a paid Google Workspace subscription where we continue to deliver new capabilities to help businesses transform the way they work."
Small business owners who have relied on the G Suite legacy free edition aren't thrilled that they will have to pay for Workspace or migrate to a rival like Microsoft, which happens to be actively encouraging defectors. As noted by The New York Times on Monday, the approaching deadline has elicited complaints from small firms that bet on Google's cloud productivity apps in the 2006-2012 period and have enjoyed the lack of billing since then.
Analyst firms S&P Global Market Intelligence and Gartner have both offered negative evaluations of Broadcom's takeover of VMware.
S&P surveyed VMware customers and found 44 percent feel neutral about the deal, and 40 percent expressed negative sentiments.
But when the analyst crunched the numbers for current customers of both VMware and Broadcom, 56 percent expressed negative sentiments. More than a quarter rated their response to the deal as "extremely negative".
Special report Seven months from now, assuming all goes as planned, Google Chrome will drop support for its legacy extension platform, known as Manifest v2 (Mv2). This is significant if you use a browser extension to, for instance, filter out certain kinds of content and safeguard your privacy.
Google's Chrome Web Store is supposed to stop accepting Mv2 extension submissions sometime this month. As of January 2023, Chrome will stop running extensions created using Mv2, with limited exceptions for enterprise versions of Chrome operating under corporate policy. And by June 2023, even enterprise versions of Chrome will prevent Mv2 extensions from running.
The anticipated result will be fewer extensions and less innovation, according to several extension developers.
Updated In one of the many ongoing age discrimination lawsuits against IBM, Big Blue has been ordered to produce internal emails in which former CEO Ginny Rometty and former SVP of Human Resources Diane Gherson discuss efforts to get rid of older employees.
IBM as recently as February denied any "systemic age discrimination" ever occurred at the mainframe giant, despite the August 31, 2020 finding by the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) that "top-down messaging from IBM’s highest ranks directing managers to engage in an aggressive approach to significantly reduce the headcount of older workers to make room for Early Professional Hires."
The court's description of these emails between executives further contradicts IBM's assertions and supports claims of age discrimination raised by a 2018 report from ProPublica and Mother Jones, by other sources prior to that, and by numerous lawsuits.
Google has a fresh list of reasons why it opposes tech antitrust legislation making its way through Congress but, like others who've expressed discontent, the ad giant's complaints leave out mention of portions of the proposed law that address said gripes.
The law bill in question is S.2992, the Senate version of the American Innovation and Choice Online Act (AICOA), which is closer than ever to getting votes in the House and Senate, which could see it advanced to President Biden's desk.
AICOA prohibits tech companies above a certain size from favoring their own products and services over their competitors. It applies to businesses considered "critical trading partners," meaning the company controls access to a platform through which business users reach their customers. Google, Apple, Amazon, and Meta in one way or another seemingly fall under the scope of this US legislation.
A former Google video producer has sued the internet giant alleging he was unfairly fired for blowing the whistle on a religious sect that had all but taken over his business unit.
The lawsuit demands a jury trial and financial restitution for "religious discrimination, wrongful termination, retaliation and related causes of action." It alleges Peter Lubbers, director of the Google Developer Studio (GDS) film group in which 34-year-old plaintiff Kevin Lloyd worked, is not only a member of The Fellowship of Friends, the exec was influential in growing the studio into a team that, in essence, funneled money back to the fellowship.
In his complaint [PDF], filed in a California Superior Court in Silicon Valley, Lloyd lays down a case that he was fired for expressing concerns over the fellowship's influence at Google, specifically in the GDS. When these concerns were reported to a manager, Lloyd was told to drop the issue or risk losing his job, it is claimed.
The United Kingdom's Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) on Friday said it intends to launch an investigation of Apple's and Google's market power with respect to mobile browsers and cloud gaming, and to take enforcement action against Google for its app store payment practices.
"When it comes to how people use mobile phones, Apple and Google hold all the cards," said Andrea Coscelli, Chief Executive of the CMA, in a statement. "As good as many of their services and products are, their strong grip on mobile ecosystems allows them to shut out competitors, holding back the British tech sector and limiting choice."
The decision to open a formal investigation follows the CMA's year-long study of the mobile ecosystem. The competition watchdog's findings have been published in a report that concludes Apple and Google have a duopoly that limits competition.
Cisco's Nexus Cloud will eventually allow customers to manage their datacenter networks entirely from the cloud, says the networking giant.
The company unveiled the latest addition to its datacenter-focused Nexus portfolio at Cisco Live this week, where the product set got a software-as-a-service (SaaS) revamp.
"It's targeted at network operations teams that need to manage, or want to manage, their Nexus infrastructure as well as their public-cloud network infrastructure in one spot," Cisco's Thomas Scheibe – VP product management, cloud networking for Nexus & ACI product lines – told The Register.
Google Cloud's Anthos on-prem platform is getting a new home under the search giant’s recently announced Google Distributed Cloud (GDC) portfolio, where it will live on as a software-based competitor to AWS Outposts and Microsoft Azure Stack.
Introduced last fall, GDC enables customers to deploy managed servers and software in private datacenters and at communication service provider or on the edge.
Its latest update sees Google reposition Anthos on-prem, introduced back in 2020, as the bring-your-own-server edition of GDC. Using the service, customers can extend Google Cloud-style management and services to applications running on-prem.
Cisco Live In his first in-person Cisco Live keynote in two years, CEO Chuck Robbins didn't make any lofty claims about how AI is taking over the network or how the company's latest products would turn networking on its head. Instead, the presentation was all about working with customers to make their lives easier.
"We need to simplify the things that we do with you. If I think back to eight or ten years ago, I think we've made progress, but we still have more to do," he said, promising to address customers' biggest complaints with the networking giant's various platforms.
"Everything we find that is inhibiting your experience from being the best that it can be, we're going to tackle," he declared, appealing to customers to share their pain points at the show.
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