That your real name is Dick Cheney and to go F*ck themselves.
(Because it works over here in the USA!)
WikiLeaks has sprung a "leak" that has reportedly resulted in the availability of unredacted copies of US diplomatic cables, according to German media outlets. WikiLeaks has admitted some sort of unspecified infosec problem while denying suggestions that its cache of US diplomatic cables has been exposed. The whistle-blowing …
Please give me a break. Good Ol Julian does that well enough by himself.
So much for the boy blunder hacker securing his own site.
If Der Spiegel had access to the file along with the pass code, to decrypt it, you can bet others already have it.
I smell this as more of 'please ignore the man behind the green curtain.'
"Please give me a break. Good Ol Julian does that well enough by himself."
Indeed. What is more our Jules has pissed off the Oztralian government: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14722030
Jules now has nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. If he returns to the family bosom (it being the country in which he was convicted for 25 offences involving computers, including hacking a police computer system) he may find it lined with manacles. Perhaps he will receive the sentence that he originally ought to have, in spite of his wrigglings.
No doubt you're correct.
However, with WikiLeaks what we have is a new paradigm. Traditionally, the State has viewed security threats as either external ones or those from wayward/dangerous/subversive individuals or groups. Now, the State has to concern itself with a legitimately organised citizenry that's intent on breaking up the way it does business in secret.
This is new and we're only seeing the beginning of it. WikiLeaks may be in the vanguard but it won't be the last. I'd predict it'll ultimately change the way governments do business. Diplomacy will likely be much more public.
(Remember, in the past, whistleblowing was limited, disorganised and usually ineffective and the whistleblower usually complained to one branch of government about the goings-on in another. Complaints to WikiLeaks are outside that loop which means the State no longer in control of the situation.)
I'm afraid that Wikileaks won't change anything of how governments do business. Maybe tighten security and maybe perform better due diligence and security background checks....
The point is that in the past we've had the press who've done a pretty good job of rooting out crime and corruption in government, which is why they have a bit more protection in the courts. However, unlike the press, Wikileaks doesn't show caution or have the same 'ethical' standards. (Note that ethical standards vary by country and by time period...)
So to your point, governments will continue to do business as usual. Perhaps they will be more guarded in what they say and or publish... in fact it could mean that less information will be documented and captured. :-(
I don't disagree that we will see more whistle blowing sites, however I think that they will be less about the egos of their creators and more about their cause.
The key is that there truly are some things that we as a public shouldn't know... at least not for 50+ years, under our current laws.
>>"So to your point, governments will continue to do business as usual. Perhaps they will be more guarded in what they say and or publish... in fact it could mean that less information will be documented and captured."
Maybe some might even use leaks for their own ends more than they currently do - if there's a more common culture of leaking, that might make it easier for information that people want to get out to be disclosed.
In the past, leaks were often specific things leaked on principle.
If there's a situation where things may be leaked in bulk, and with much less discrimination, like someone copying things whatever files they can find randomly onto a memory stick, that would seem like an opportunity for a few desired leaks to be buried in a haystack of irrelevant gossip, from where one hopes some media person will find it and publicise it.
Heck, with citizen journalists looking through bulk releases of information, it doesn't even take a proper journalist to stumble upon something - some random anonymous blogger can 'find' the nuggets of gold and give them their first pushes towards publicity.
Whatever one thinks of the people in charge, it'd be a mistake to think that they're necessarily stupid or incapable of seeing opportunities.
"That data is probably under surveillance or being infiltrated by the best cyber minds on the planet.
The aim would be to discredit WikiLeaks at all or any cost."
Firstly a single item of data (that as opposed to these) is a datum, the plural of datum is data.
Secondly, what do you mean by the data are 'probably under surveillance or being infiltrated'? If they have been released that is the end of the matter. If they have not been released, what on earth can be said to 'discredit Wikileaks' that could not be said after Wikileaks have released them?
"american spies in israel???
why ffs? it's not like the us would ever act on anything that happens there."
Of course they have an intelligence gathering operation there. Intelligence is both prophylactic as well as offensive; it is important to know what your friends are up to, even if only because you want to know if they are about to screw up, and it is important to know if your friends are aware of threats they face. Sabra and Shatilla are among the very good reasons why; in case you need an aide memoire, Israeli sponsored Maronite Christians slaughtered many Palestinians there. It is one of the pretexts used by bin Laden for his foul deeds; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
The Christian (my memory says 'Druze', though I can't be sure) leader who was about to spill the beans on the Israelis, especially the now comatose Sharon, was murdered very soon after publicly declaring his intent to do so.
...if someone passes Wikileaks information that the owner doesn't want given out, that person is a "fighter for information freedom and transparency" (or whatever their current feel-good term is), while if someone passes information that Wikileaks holds and doesn't want given out, that person is a "malicious individual", then...?
It all sounds rather "I am large, you are stout, he is fat," hairsplitting, to me.
unfortunately, yes they are. To classify as a database, all a system has to do is accept data, hold it in storage, and return it via an established mechanism.
You (and I suspect a lot of people) are unconsciously adding prefixes like "relational" to the word "database".
Having said that, Excel and Access are terrible ways to store your data if you plan on doing more than add-store-read.
using the .csv extention that was explicitly used as a tracking complication tool for programers. Somebody bought it for me to use for archiving our publications files. I didn't find it particularly useful because it was programmer centric, but it was popular with programmers at the time. Could be a variant on that, possibly even the same tool 20 generations later.
a shit about the blood on his hands in the first place. People who care about blood on their hands do one of two things with this kind of info: avoid it completely (that would be me), or go into government where there's at least a decent pretext of security the data to protect the innocent.
Normally Reg member postings are well thought out. It seems that on the Wikileaks/Assange topics and everything related, we're now focusing on media articles we have read. All of which are likely to be pro-Government of wherever they are, or at least pro-blowing their own horn and just as liable to make stuff up as much of the British press. I'm not saying Wikileaks is immune/innocent to that either, but I certainly cannot prove they do, while there are established court cases regarding much of the media.
With that in mind, I'm not sure how any opinion above can really be taken as anything more than a glib comment from gut feelings about what is truly transpiring.
Personally I think the likelihood is: Wikileaks have some dirt on lots of organisations and governments. The organisations and governments don't like it, so, as much mud slinging and distortion is thrown about in the media until nobody cares anymore. When that happens, Wikileaks will get few web hits as nobody will care what they are publishing. Thus, by making the whole thing as frustrating and conspiracy-theory embroiled as possible causes the masses not to care and for Wikileaks to lose the ability to whistleblow.
Then some organisations and governments can get back to the dirt they were doing before, safe in the knowledge that it won't matter if Wikileaks get hold of it.
Where you cannot take an organisation down, just cause apathy surrounding them that turns peoples attention away and job done. Simples!
>>"Where you cannot take an organisation down, just cause apathy surrounding them that turns peoples attention away and job done. Simples!"
And you don't think that for people looking to discredit Wikileaks, having Assange in charge is a bit of a bonus?
Or that people looking to 'cause apathy' must be rubbing their hands in glee at all the Wikileaks-inspired trumpeting over diplomatic memos, few of which seemed to rise in interest above the level of suggestions that people don't trust Berlusconi, or requests for more soft toilet paper.
One of the best ways to cause future apathy is to create loads of hype and then deliver boredom.
RE: "And you don't think that for people looking to discredit Wikileaks, having Assange in charge is a bit of a bonus?"
The hypothesis of your question is that Assange himself discredits Wikeleaks. I don't know the guy and I don't necessarily believe what's in the press. Even based on what I have seen of what Assange has said in interviews is somewhat misrepresentative of the guy - he's been asked questions by the media, so they drive the topic and question things a particular way to drive a particular angle that could well be considered 'leading the witness'. I certainly have seen them deliberately take some answers he's given out of context to do so. So there is no way to have an educated view on the matter. (unless I knew him or WL persons, or had inside gov/intel, which I do not)
I think the same would happen whoever acted as a spokesman for Wikileaks. I think best not have a spokesman! You could, if you desire, interpret that as falling on the side of agreeing with your hpothesis - but it's still your interpretation. I'm already passed caring about the matter.
I only hope there are people of good standing who would seek to bring greater transparency and accountability to government. There are caveats to that which, depending on scenario, could fill a book. So discussing them here is a little pointless. Whether WL does this is deabteable - as I posted earlier, the water is too muddy to see clearly. Are WL corrupt in how they operate? Have they brought important truths to public awareness where the pros outweight the cons and thus done a good thing? All highly debateable and without being able to definitively establish the truth, this is just the domain of personal opinion and not one of clear-cut factual objectivity.
"The hypothesis of your question is that Assange himself discredits Wikeleaks."
There is no hypothesis without first articulating a theory, unless of course the statement causes a paradigm shift but, even then, a hypothesis without theoretical background is like a ship without an anchor; the hypothesis is an operational statement of the theory. So, statements about gravity, forces, physics, followed by the hypothesis that the moon will cause tidal changes [...]
I'll offer you a theoretical statement - itself laden with theoretical assumptions that can be clarified if necessary, to the effect that Assange, due to developmental course, does not follow rules in conduct and speech, is impulsive and prone to making bad judgements (there would be a lot of stuff about childhood schedules of reinforcement from parental input, the subsequent development of reward and discipline areas of the brain, particularly the pre-frontal grey and areas ennervating it), resulting in a variety of phenomena, such as releasing information without first taking proper precautions in respect of the security of individuals named within documents, having a cavalier attitude to informants in Afghanistan to the effect that they can die, after all they are informants, and so on.
In discrediting himself Assange destroys the image of the things that he claims to own, including the data that he claims to own (he does not, the data 'belong' to those from whom they were taken), namely Wikileaks. He also destroys the principle of leakers/whistle blowing, because he has operated in an indisciplined manner, right down to having such bad security that Berg - however noble his aims may have been  - was able to make off with data and shred them. Since there were apparently no back up copies, Assange not only looks silly because he let the data out of his sight, but also because his bad security extends to routine functions that an office coffee boy would know how to execute.
I would not trust Assange to look after anything owned by me, and that brings me to the final point; in acting as a fence for stolen information Assange has made claims about the data belonging to him, is apparently about to set up a paywall, is writing his autobiography and profits handsomely in the form of generous remuneration, whilst paying only crumbs to the Bradley Manning defence fund. This is not consistent with the behaviour of a genuinely altruistic individual, seeking to uncover wrongdoing; it strikes me as the behaviour of a ruthless, materially oriented individual who is prepared to say or do a great deal in order to further his material wealth. This is the man who adopted the soubriquet 'Mendax', apparently believing that mendacity could be noble, something put forward in the form of the Platonic myth.
As I indicated before, offending behaviours do not take place in a vacuum; all offenders have a career, and progress from seemingly trivial offences to ones of greater magnitude. I await the court case with interest.
These are among the reasons why I resolutely say what I see, and why I find Assange and his supporters/fellow travellers to be risible.
 Assange apparently claims they were stolen; if they could be so described, this would only be possible if it is accepted that they were in the first place stolen property.
I don't care if the agents and informants were revealed by Wikileaks. The government is so corrupt, and abusing so much power, that anybody that aids them in their acts, deserves to be revealed.
Let that be a lesson to all you other would be informants that you can't trust government to keep your information encrypted, and you simply end up suffering for it.
UK Home Secretary Priti Patel today signed an order approving the extradition of Julian Assange to America, where he faces espionage charges for sharing secret government documents.
It also distributed secret files revealing the torture of detainees at Guantanamo Bay, and sensitive communications from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, John Podesta, during the 2016 US presidential election.
Julian Assange has all but lost his fight against extradition from Britain to America after the UK Supreme Court said his case "did not raise an arguable point of law."
The former WikiLeaks chief's future now rests in the tender hands of British Home Secretary Priti Patel, who must formally decide whether or not to extradite him for trial in the US.
American prosecutors want the Australian in court over a multitude of espionage charges, including one alleging that he commissioned the cracking of a password protecting US Department of Defense files from unauthorized access.
Julian Assange has won a technical victory in his ongoing battle against extradition from the UK to the United States, buying him a few more months in the relative safety of Her Majesty's Prison Belmarsh.
Today at London's High Court, the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales Lord Burnett approved a question on a technical point of law, having refused Assange immediate permission to appeal to the UK Supreme Court. The WikiLeaker's lawyers had asked for formal permission to pose this legal conundrum about Assange's likely treatment in US prisons to the Supreme Court:
Julian Assange's psychiatrist misled a judge when he delivered a report stating the WikiLeaks founder would be suicidal if extradited to the US for trial, lawyers for the US government have said.
Barrister James Lewis QC told the Lord Chief Justice yesterday that crucial reports were flawed because it did not clearly state that Assange had fathered two children while hiding in Ecuador's London embassy.
The WikiLeaker-in-chief is wanted in the US. He stands accused of hacking into US military databases and publishing classified docs. Although he won an initial legal bid to avoid extradition, the sole reason District Judge Vanessa Baraitser did not extradite him was because he would be suicidal if sent abroad. At the time the judge described that as "a well-informed opinion carefully supported by evidence."
Julian Assange will be sent stateside for trial on criminal charges after the US government won an appeal against an earlier court order that released him from the threat of extradition.
The former WikiLeaks editor-in-chief lost the latest stage of his attempt to avoid being sent to the US after the Lord Chief Justice and Lord Justice Holroyde accepted US assurances that he would be treated humanely in their prisons.
The High Court has quashed a previous court order "freeing" Assange*, meaning the case will now join the growing pile on Home Secretary Priti Patel's desk awaiting her decision on whether to extradite.
Accused hacker and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange should not be extradited to the US to stand trial, Westminster Magistrates' Court has ruled.
District Judge Vanessa Baraitser told Assange this morning that there was no legal obstacle to his being sent to the US, where he faces multiple criminal charges under America's Espionage Act and Computer Fraud and Abuse Act over his WikiLeaks website.
Assange is a suicide risk and the judge decided not to order his extradition to the US, despite giving a ruling in which she demolished all of his legal team's other arguments against extradition.
Analysis Julian Assange has lost a legal scrap in court, this time over the US government's attempt to expand its grounds for extraditing him from England to stand trial in America.
Lord Justice Holroyde, sitting with Mrs Justice Farbey in London's High Court, this week overruled previous legal findings that said an expert report from Assange's psychiatrist claiming the WikiLeaker was suicidal at the prospect of trial in the United States could not be challenged on appeal. That decision, made after a pre-hearing application by the US government ahead of a full appeal scheduled later this year, is bad news for Assange's camp.
Julian Assange will remain in a British prison for now after the US government won permission to appeal against a January court ruling that freed him from extradition to America.
News of the appeal came as the US Department of Justice offered Assange a deal that would keep him out of the notoriously cruel US supermax prisons, according to The Times.
The High Court this morning granted the US permission to appeal against a ruling by Westminster Magistrates' Court that Assange couldn't be extradited because he would commit suicide if handed over to the Americans. The WikiLeaker-in-chief's legal team lost on every other legal ground against extradition.
Former couch-surfing world record contender Julian Assange has had his Ecuadorian citizenship revoked.
An administrative court in Quito, Ecuador cited irregularities in the naturalization process – including the use of different signatures, potential document alterations, failure to pay fees, and a failure to reside in the country – as reasons the grant of citizenship was invalid. The court also assessed Assange's application interview as "undue and illegal".
Assange was notified he had lost his citizenship in a letter responding to a claim from Ecuador's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Human Mobility. His less than happy lawyer, Carlos Poveda, said he will file for an annulment of the decision.
Prosecutors in the US have upgraded their case against Julian Assange with a second superseding indictment claiming he sought out the services of a notorious hacker who, unbeknownst to the WikiLeaks boss, was secretly working with the Feds.
The Department of Justice this week added yet more material to its indictment against Assange, which accuses him of 18 counts of espionage and hacking. The latest filing does not add any charges, though it includes evidence of Assange asking hackers to steal sensitive and scandalous dirt from government systems for WikiLeaks to disseminate. This could blow a hole in Jules' I'm-a-journalist-not-a-spy defense.
In the filing [PDF], it is said Assange worked directly with Anonymous and LulzSec miscreants in a quest to obtain US government documents and publish them on WikiLeaks.
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