names are meangingless
the members of lulzsec were always members of anonymous, all they've done is drop the lulzsec name
Anonymous claims LulzSec merger
Anonymous claims that members of the notorious (recently disbanded) prankster hacking group LulzSec have joined its group. "All @LulzSec members have reported aboard" according to an update to the @AnonymousIRC Twitter account. A later post claimed the move has nothing to do with the recent arrest of an alleged member of …
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 06:35 GMT Anonymous Coward
Same people, same groups
Tbh, I'm getting a bit tired of hearing the same nonsense from the same people. They just create new group names and swap between them as they want. You see the same names and same faces behind the scenes of Anon. Lulzshit and PokemonTeamPoison.
PLEASE PLEASE LOOK AT US, PLEASE GIVE US ATTENTION!!11ONEONE!
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 06:35 GMT Anonymous Coward
Rise of the script kiddies...
I wonder if they think where some of this "judge & jury" vandalism will lead? I'm all for the right to free speech, public demonstration and on occasion civil disobedience but also for personal responsibility.
As much as I think it is important to point out how widespread some of the most security problems are, I can't avoid the feeling that this is starting to look more and more like joyriding.
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 07:50 GMT Danny 5
seriously?
do you honestly think it's only kids that are doing this? For one, i find it VERY hard to believe there's any form of organisation, the group seems to be totally organic, you can't join anonymous persé, you either are or aren't anonymous, it's as simple as that.
second, i'm quite sure the scriptkiddies are at the forefront, but there will be people from all layers of society involved in this.
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 16:03 GMT Anonymous Coward
Name calling
The reason for many of us posting anonymously on this is that we don't want to draw unnecessary attention to ourselves whilst pointing out the facts: the work of the script kiddies is fairly simplistic - running existing code on known exploits - but that is not to say that it can't be briefly very disruptive or expensive to mitigate. You don't have to search very hard to find out what's going on.
If the current wave leads to improved security on websites around the world then I'm all for it. And, maybe, the odd caution or prosecution. I do, however, worry that some of this mischief written large won't be used as an excuse for more draconian and invasive "anti-terrorist" legislation.
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 09:57 GMT Anonymous Coward
Run away! Run away!
Brave Sir LulzSec ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir LulzSec turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir LulzSec!
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 09:20 GMT anon#1000
lulz
Anyone claiming to be a "member" of anonymous has is lying, has case of unwarranted self importance or perhaps just a member of one "anon" clan that has sprung up. Anonymous is actually just the name given to the collective. It's kids throwing spitballs and seeing what sticks. Not some organization. For every proposed activity a hundred get turned down. Thousands of people are involved, but you can't say they are "members". They may be members of some project anon has formed, but there are no leaders. It's not organized.
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 10:19 GMT Anonymous Coward
Clarification
"Who turns activities down?"
Everyone else.
"How about we do X? Who's with me?"
(total silence)
"Shall we do Y?"
"I don't think that'd be good to do"
"Errm Maybe."
(discussion fades to silence)
"Shall we do Z?"
Man the harpoons! Off we go!
X and Y have not been "approved", since there's no momentum behind the idea and as such it fails instantly.
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 09:22 GMT Blofeld's Cat
For goodness sake...
I don't care who's breaching your "security" - just take better care of my data.
The chances are I didn't want to give you my details in the first place. Is it really necessary to make me "register" to check the specification on one of your products? Oh and if you think that the details I gave you are accurate then you need a new marketing strategy.
If your webmaster hasn't heard of SQL injection and "playing around with the URL", you really need to get a replacement.
Thank you.
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 09:34 GMT amanfromMars 1
Scaling Plateaux .... a Must Do for Vertical Elevation
"Meanwhile TeaMp0isoN, another hacking group that rose to prominence with the release of what purported to be Tony Blair's contact list last weekend, pledged to carry on as an independent hacking crew. "Unlike @lulzsec, our movement dosent have an expiry date. . . . we wont ever backdown, this means a lot to us, time for a manifesto," it said."
Here's a base document to build Nirvana upon, TeaMp0isoN ..... http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/manifesto.html
Seek and Ye Shall Find ...... that all is ProVisioned by the Those with Thoughts that Lie Waiting and Awakened to Life and LOVE Ahead.
"5th Columnists .... So Anonymous have now been infiltrated by agents of the Stazi state then?" ..... Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 28th June 2011 06:35 GMT.
I think the realisation is dawned that Anonymous have now infiltrated their agents into Stazi states, AC.
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Wednesday 6th July 2011 17:58 GMT Daniel 4
Re: “You lot”? You’re not one of “us” then?
"Provoking the wrath of any bully is a dangerous thing.
Might does not make right."
No, but there are still some things I won't say in public even in jest because I know my government has no sense of humor and is a bully (U.S. of A.). This is despite having "Freedom of Speech." Right does not always protect you. I suspect the earlier AC was making a similar point.
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 11:55 GMT Anonymous Coward
@jake
"What is the average/mean age of these idiots? 15? 14? 13?"
"It's bloody obvious that they don't understand how the Adult world works ..."
No , they don't. And its not because they're young, most arn't, its because while they may be technically very intelligent, their social skills and general understanding of other people is severly lacking. This is probably due to a lot of them - like our friend Ryan - being typical borderline aspergers nerds and the rest just simply not getting out enough or interacting with enough people other than via a keyboard for healthy mental development. I'm sure there are a few exceptions but in general - not.
I rather pity them. They think they're some Big Deal, but in reality they're rather tragic solitary figures with low self esteem who are unlikely to amount to very much.
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 12:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
I actually find it funny
That IRC chat log the Guardian leaked is pure genius, and even if they ARE script kiddies, what does that say about the security of the majority of these so called "respected" companies and corporations, so respected they can't even be trusted with the basic security of your data?
Bravo I say, what better way to highlight the ineptitude of these companies than this? Protests don't work, turns out having a handy network of IRC bots to do your bidding does - maybe they will sit up and notice and pay the extra money they need for some proper pen. testing?
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Tuesday 28th June 2011 14:45 GMT Anonymous Coward
@bullseyed
"What grounds do we have to violate their human rights and force them to conform to our societal norms?"
When breaking those norms means you commit a crime then yes - you need to conform. Don't like it? Fine, piss off and live in a cave or move to another country. And don't start shotgunning the phrase "human rights" around when you clearly have sod all idea or what they are or where responsibilities fit into the equation.
"If gays can get married, Anon is fine"
A piss poor attempt at moral equivalence. Do try a bit harder.
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