back to article Bin Laden's porn stash: Too good to be true?

The revelation that US commandos who stormed Osama bin Laden's Pakistan bolthole unearthed a "massive smut stash" didn't much surprise those who'd been expecting news that the terrorist wasn't quite the paragon of Islamic virtue he claimed to be. Of course, the "extensive" collection of "modern, electronically recorded video" …


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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward


    I imagine it was pretty explicit stuff. FAces uncovered and everything.

  2. poohbear

    Get a clue

    I thought everyone knew that porn was the best medium for steganography. What the heck else don't they teach the spooks these days?

    1. Captain TickTock
      Paris Hilton


      Hell, it doesn't have to be too sophisticated.

      Even if the text were simply composited in clear, on top of the carrier image,

      almost 50% of the population still wouldn't even see it... ;-)

      Gorilla Icon because... what do you mean you can't see the gorilla?

    2. dssf

      My fillings... umm, FEELINGS, exactly...

      Besides using porn as steganography, having a huge stockpile means a huge array of salt or seed with which to form a major bugger of a crypto key.

      Moreover, using porn as steg means turning ON as well as turning OFF analysts and ANALists who will be distracted or incensed (or, if you will, end-sensend) at getting this stuff all over their hands.

      Imagine seeding a key with cuts and pastes as well as multidimensional overlays of sorts to form a "spherical key", if you will. Why should a key be thought of as "flat" when it can be an enter-active sort of key that is "live" rather than "static"?

      To cull the secrets out of a live sphere, one would have to be a quantumly-esteemed and cunning linguist...

  3. Annihilator

    Preaching to the choir

    Announcing it can ironically only *hurt* the US cause in this instance. Any Bin Laden supporters or sympathisers will have a deep mistrust of the US government and so not believe this - there are unlikely to be any fence-sitters ready to sway.

    But it will cause people in the "Bin Laden: bad" camp to stop believing what the US government states.

    So best case, everyone believes what they already believed. Worst case, everybody believes what they already believed, but some of them now distrust the US.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward


      "But it will cause people in the "Bin Laden: bad" camp to stop believing what the US government states".


      (Wipes eyes).

      Very droll.

      *I* don't believe what the US government says. Or the UK government. Have you ever heard of Claud Cockburn?

    2. scrubber

      Bad Camp?

      This one time, at Bad Camp...

      Where's the flute icon?

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Black Helicopters

    I'd have been amazed if they *hadn't* found porn ...

    not that I know the first thing about OBL (or care as much). But it strikes me as curious that in the UK, whenever they catch a "terrorist" it's not long before we hear about "indecent images were found on computers removed" ...

    Seems to be a standard smear tactic.

    1. Graham Marsden

      @"Seems to be a standard smear tactic."

      Only because they probably thought they couldn't get people to believe that it was actually kiddy porn...

  5. Anonymous Coward

    It only counts

    as his stash if it was found under a hedge.

  6. PrivateCitizen

    No position

    I agree with Prof Rod T Long....

    I dont think anyone but the most fundie of fundie bombers thinks Bin-Laden is a paragon of virtue (although his uncanny resemblance to Jesus wont help things in a few thousand years) but I also have no reason at all to believe any spin that the US Govt produces.

    Either side could be correct and as it doesnt matter to me, I dont care.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward


      Their idiots (those who read Al Daily Mail) are as black and white when it comes to politics as ours. Just as there are millions in this country who favour extensively bombing cities, so there are in Islamic countries. Just as those who support the BNP are idiots, but not really the most fundie of fundies, so those who support OBL are idiots but not necessarily that fundamental.

      There's plenty of people advocating violence in this world. No need to panic, but it's probably best to care a little bit.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Black Helicopters

        "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws"

        No, the real idiots are those who believe without question the propaganda spread by those who own the media, control our governments and "education". Then repeat their baseless opinions, socialising the ill-informed to conform to the "correct" prejudices.

        "there are millions in this country who favour extensively bombing cities" - I don't know any such people personally. You should point the finger at our government for they are the ones repeatedly bombing foreign countries based on lies. There are few truly independent countries left in the world but those who control our governments will create a reason to attack them just like for all the others.

        Follow the money, you will find it Illuminating.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          AC or BNP?

          "No, the real idiots are those who believe without question the propaganda spread by those who own the media"

          Is some reference to the BNP faithful and whoever runs their facebook page?

          "I know no such people"

          In which case you should get out of your bunker and socialise with people, preferably those who don't hold the same world-view and don't confirm your own biases ad nauseam.

          Follow the money? You don't know the half of it.

    2. Ian Yates
      Thumb Up

      Jesus bin Laden

      I like the idea that history will become so confused that in a few thousand years people will remember the Son of God as "that bearded dude who blow up some buildings and then died watching porn".

  7. LPF

    Oh my god is this still going on..

    Getover it people, the seals got him and nicked his pron stash lol

    My god your aacting as if the saudies have never know or lusted after women , get a grip ! lol

  8. Thomas 4

    Uh huh

    I bet the CIA operatives are busy analysing those videos in miniute detail, maybe even rewatching them several times to make sure they didnt miss anything

    1. dssf


      So, the anal (or banal) ANALYSTS will be compiling a list of anamorphic and explicit details?

  9. Anonymous Coward

    Standard practice

    to fit perps up with loads of porn so whats the problem?

  10. Jim 59

    We don't know

    A naughty stash ? We don't know, and never will. However, it is odd for the CIA to feel that a mass murderer's reputation needs lowering. If you have already incinerated 3000 civilians in a premeditated act, looking at naught pics hardly makes you a worse person. And his followers, though they may be gullible, are unlikely to believe what the CIA says anyway.

    Better for the West to give a good example to Bin Laden's followers by improving our own behaviour.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @Jim 59

      "However, it is odd for the CIA to feel that a mass murderer's reputation needs lowering".

      A murderer is a criminal - someone who kills a fellow citizen, contrary to the criminal law. However the US government itself has declared Bin Laden and his crew "enemy combatants", and denied them the rights guaranteed to criminals by the USA's own laws.

      It follows that 9/11 was NOT a crime but an act of war. And its perpetrators were not murderers but enemies of the USA. As such, 9/11 was pretty small potatoes compared to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or the bombing of hundreds of different Axis cities during WW2, or the killing of 3 million people in South East Asia, or the killing of over 1 million people in Iraq. For none of which American rulers or voters apparently feel the slightest responsibility or guilt.

      1. Ted Treen
        Thumb Down

        Tell that... the (few) survivoirs of the Burma Railway, Changi Jail, Belsen, Sachsenhausen, Dachau, Sobibor, and many other instances too numerous to recall.

        Or do you believe, like the Grauniad, that if we did it - it's automatically wrong & we should shroud ourselves in sackcloth & ashes?

      2. katie scarlett

        @Tom Welsh

        "...Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or the bombing of hundreds of different Axis cities during WW2, or the killing of 3 million people in South East Asia, or the killing of over 1 million people in Iraq."

        Well, I don't particularly admire Americans for any of the above, but given the choice, I'd rather be under American rule than Nazi Germany's, Japanese or Arab for that matter. This from a Polish woman who does not bow and likes to flaunt occasionally without being stoned for it.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          @ Katie Scarlett

          Katie, my point was that the Americans themselves declared that Al Qaeda are not criminals. Therefore 9/11 was an act of war, not a crime. The examples of American violence I cited were merely intended to remind everyone that, in war, massive violence is the norm. Compared to Hiroshima, Dresden, or even Fallujah, 9/11 was a relatively small episode of violence in which "not many" (relatively speaking) were killed.

          The only reason I chose American military violence was that it's the Americans who try to have their cake and eat it by saying Al Qaeda are criminals one moment, and not the next - whichever suits their current purpose best.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    One mass murderer down...

    ..., now if they could take down W.

  12. Guido Esperanto

    and thus the lesson of aesop may be realised

    governments who are found to have lied in the past to further their agenda's have all credibility removed, especially when it comes to an issue which has an intention of polarising support for Bin Laden.

    I have to mimic the professors comments. While I have no qualms believing that both parties are propaganda merchants, this story is the most extreme and damaging against the Al Qaeda leader that I am automatically suspicious.

    We'll know in about 50 years after countless investigations and potential de-classification of government documents.

  13. MoreFun
    Paris Hilton

    Steganography ?

    Being caught with porn might be less of a problem, than being caught with "terrorist" material.

    So using steganography to hide the "other" material inside the porn makes sense, and allows for "educational" viewing of the material ...

    1. Jolyon

      Steganography ?

      Is that dinosaur porn?

  14. James Thomas

    The tougher question

    'What man's house could you raid and NOT find a porn stash?'

    1. Ted Treen



      1. Rob - Denmark

        @Ted Treen

        @Ted Treen

        You can't just claim no one would ever find a porn stash at your house. You have to share your method of keeping it hidden.

        1. Ted Treen


          Best form of hiding, me old Viking lad - not having any there in the first place.

          Not something that particularly appeals to me - I love a good dinner, but pics of others eating don't do much for me, nor do pics/viddies of sumptous repasts.

          I'm not prudish or offended by it, merely uninterested personally.

          Still, as the froggies say "One man's fish is another man's poisson"...

          Now Beer, that's a different matter...

          1. katie scarlett


            Beer drinker - that explains it...It has been proved that wine drinker are more likely to buy smutty magazines

      2. katie scarlett


        Lockable desk at work?

        Or are you a woman?

        1. PT

          @ are you a woman

          I know women who have quite an extensive collection. Movies mainly, not still pictures.

  15. Andus McCoatover

    Shooting fish in a barrel...

    Get the CIA to somehow put some twitters about that it's about to reveal the identities of muslim ter'rists who have been shagging hookers, camels, goats, young boys, etc.

    Then wait for the fuc*kers to take out 'super-injunctions'. Stamp all over Blighty's laws in the interest of National Security, and get their names and ID's.

    Piece of piss.

  16. flibbertigibbet

    And in related news ...

    The only reason we have been able to find for the reporting of "Bin Laden's porn stash: Too good to be true?" isn't factual evidence, a conspiracy theory, or even the repeating of random internet hearsay - its just a pitifully poor effort at generating some web traffic.

  17. Jimboom

    Bin tugging

    I have to agree, this sounds like propaganda to me. Pure and simple. However, maybe they were wrong about Mr not bin getting laiden being completely off the grid and all this smut was just the results of pop up ads or malware?

    1. PT

      @ Jim Boom

      Mr "not bin gettin laiden" had several wives, and was being attended to at the time of his death by one of the youngest.

      In fact, she accompanied him into the afterlife. I wonder how the "72 virgins" program handles things if you show up with your wife.

  18. TeeCee Gold badge

    '....which may have been used to carry "subliminal messages".'

    I take my hat off to the CIA lad who came up with *that* one to justify him and his mates sitting in a dark room watching the whole lot on Company time.....

    Sheer genius. Wish I'd thought of it.

    1. Ally J
      Paris Hilton

      I find the porn I watch often contains a subliminal message

      It says: "Touch your naughty bits. Go on."

    2. Glesga Snapper


      I suspect the reporting of "subliminal messages" has more to do with the gutter press misunderstanding the concept of steganography, that some comedy, backwards masked nonsense.

      Some CIA type probably mentioned that they were checking to see if there are any "hidden messages" embedded in the images - gutter press hears "subliminal messages" and runs with bollocks headline.

  19. Big Al
    Black Helicopters

    Said it before...

    ... and I'll probably bore people to death by repeatedly saying it again.

    It's never so much the information itself that's interesting, but rather who's leaking it, why they're leaking it, and much more importantly why they're leaking it *right now*.

  20. Willington

    I'm shocked!!!

    I expected that it would soon be reported that OBL had porn, too much of an opportunity to miss really, I'm only shocked that it wasn't reported as being gay porn or animal porn.

    Anyway US Gov, pictures or it didn't happen!

  21. Jamie Kitson

    Easy Target

    Guess the News of the World can write what they like on this one and no one will hold them accountable :(

  22. XMAN

    The whole thing just seems so convenient

    Killing bin laden just before the 10th anniversary and then finding lots of material that discredits his character and finding lots of usb sticks with info that backs up everything the U.S government has ever said about the war on terror.

    Except sorry, the rest of the world isn't allowed to verify any of this.

    How very convenient this whole thing is.

  23. Robert E A Harvey

    Al Queda porn?

    I'd have thought that in this context 'porn' would be copies of "Guns & Ammo".

    1. Jimbo 6

      Ye title goeth here

      "Burka Babes with Bazookas"

      That's all.

  24. jake Silver badge

    All you guys out there ...

    Ask yourselves ... Is there now, or has there ever been, Pr0n on your computer?

    Ipso facto ... I still think it's tacky to reveal it. If it actually existed. Which we'll never know.


  25. mafoo


    No doubt they were prototype subliminal programming designed to destroy any infidel who would dare to glance upon them.

  26. Mike Street

    Agree with Prof Long

    with a caveat - we know for certain the US government (like most others) lies, we don't know for certain Bin Laden was a hypocrite, as we only have a proven liar's word for it.

  27. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So Bin Laden

    Had a grumble stash...

    Big fucking whoop. So do 90% of males (and lots of females!). Why is this news!!!!

    Subliminal messages!!!!! The only subliminal message during a porn flik is "crack one off"...

    Fucking CIA...Muppets....Not quite Mups, Not quite Pets...

  28. Anonymous Coward

    It doesn't matter

    If there was a stash, his followers will believe it is just US, propaganda, Anyone with half a brain or more will also suspect the find. We don't like the terrorists, but we also knows that Uncle Sam will lie, lie and then lie some more. The only people who will swallow this without question are the sheeple, and they out number people who think by 100 to 1 at least.

    I do wonder why he was not captured and put on trial. Did he know too much? Or had he outlived his usefulness? (We got the Iraqi oil, our war in the Stan, and the dregs in Libya) so we don't need you anymore. Or did they realise that if he did go on trial, they might not get a conviction? Media circus etc. But you know there is no body is there? very convenient. Bogey man vanishes.

    Because the government has such a long history of "colouring" the truth. No one ever believes what they say, lost all credibility.

    1. Sir Cosmo Bonsor


      How do you know he wasn't captured? It's not like we've seen the body.

  29. Anonymous Coward
    Black Helicopters

    2 types of black propaganda

    It's obvious, that in the USA, there are 2 types of misinformation etc. going on.

    A) by the actual black operations - they must be successful, seeing as we haven't heard much about them (and failures)

    B) by the actual government sources - this stinks of a botched attempt at black propaganda. Everything, to the way they handled the disposal of his body, to the continuous change of story (as to what they could get away with.

    Black Helicopters - Anon.

  30. Glen Turner 666
    Paris Hilton

    There had to be something to distract attention away from the e-mail on those USB sticks

    It makes sense for bin Laden to have pron on the USB sticks he was using to transfer his e-mail. There has to be some reason for a person who is searched to explain the presence of the USB stick on their person. And having it contain their "porn collection" is likely to satisfy a cursory examination at a military checkpoint. It's certainly a better scenario than the checkpoint loading the USB stick into a laptop and being confronted with a single file entitled "Osama_bin_Laden.eml".

    Paris: because now CIA staff have a valid excuse to watch her video.

  31. Oliver Mayes

    Roderick T Long, Really?

    With a name like Rod Long he's well qualified to commentate on the issue isn't he?

  32. philbo

    I suppose they'll have to..

    ..DNA test the pages that are stuck together.

  33. Anonymous Coward

    What about..

    "Let's face it, the only way the US administration could have got more column inches out of the outrage was if bin Laden had been caught in bed with a Las Vegas hooker and a bottle of Scotch, toking on a post-coital spliff while reading The Satanic Verses."

    What about a transsexual Jewish Las Vegas hooker, drinking a bottle of Scotch, eating a bacon sarnie, smoking a spliff, reading The Satanic Verses, all while wearing a T-Shirt featuring the Danish cartoons?

    AC because AQ are not known for their sense of humour.

    1. Anonymous Coward


      because that's going too far, nobody is ever going to believe that...

      "Bin Laden had been caught in bed with a Las Vegas hooker and a bottle of Scotch, toking on a post-coital spliff while reading The Satanic Verses" just about stays in the world of a realistic possibility...

      it would hard to determine without a close examination if the hooker was indeed transsexual, and without knowing if the transsexual was pre or post op, the Jewish identity would still be a difficult one to determine.. the bacon butty could easy be any other meat, but I will give you the T-shirt....

      Think along the lines of a photographer bursting through the door, getting one shot and away... what can be proven or at least a high probability....

      and I need a new Netbook

    2. Anonymous Coward


      It was reported in a UK newspaper that OBL was growing weed in the compound and smoked it everyday...

  34. secret goldfish

    Porn? I'm surprised they haven't told us that he was into SODOMY

    In the past It sure has proven to be a great way to discredit and smear someone not particularly liked by a regime/government. The oldest and easiest smear tactic there is and especially useful in conservative religious societies where homophobia is a favourite and approved past time.

    It always gives me a belly laugh and eye roll when I read about it being used in such modern and progressive times as ours. Recent Malaysian and Indonesian examples spring to mind, but lets not kid ourselves US republicans and Fox news would spend a fortune on media if they possessed a photo of Obama bumming or being bummed by another bloke.

    The sad thing is we didn't need porn charges to make Osama look like a dick, he did that all by himself, maybe it works to dissuade his followers but it backfired on me, kinda humanising the crazy stick insect man as I picture an absurd Doctor Strangelove moment where he's on the toilet whacking off with one hand while holding his copy of 'Matyr monthly - sixty hot headscarfed virgins for you' in the other hand, all while screaming orders to his followers at the other end of a handsfree bluetooth Iphone* to 'kill the degenerate americans'

    *OK the iPhone is a little absurd, There is no way he could of been on the lamb and untraceable for so long.

    When being evil alone doesn't quite cut it an added a charge of sodomy should help seal the deal..

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Paris Hilton


      Typical Us propoganda, done as ever, clumsily.

      Makes you wonder, all the cover up, the body disposal (at sea?),respecting islamic traditions, blah blah blah.

      Fact is USA screwed up big time. They knew he was in Pakistan all along, Pakistan knew this all along, but this was only done to achieve the following:

      1. Keep the Anti terrorism dollars flowing in the politicians pockets (so hid him near the army


      2. Keep the Arms industry going as much as possible

      3. Now make the most of the propoganda to demonise OBL.

      Like they do everything else.

      Reminds me of the famous phrase and truism:

      Americans spent millions of dollars making a pen write in zero gravity (for the shuttle missions),but the Soviets simply used pencils!

      And who determines that OBL shouldnt have had sex/porn whatever. AFter all, they are allowed more wives than what the vatican preaches, anyway.

      Paris, cos she's no Angel, either.

      1. qwertyuiop

        But they didn't!

        Shame you spoil your argumnet by regurgitating an urban myth. Try Googling "urban myth space pen" and you'll find *LOTS* of entries like this one -

        Fact is both the Russians and Americans used pencils until Fisher developed the Space Pen speculatively and at their own expense and persuaded NASA to use it.

    2. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

      I'll reserve judgement

      When they say they found child porn then I will know for sure it's a black PR exercise. Until then, I am quite ready to believe the porn was indeed found. I predicted that much myself.

      As far as the expected damage it is supposed to make to Osama's reputation - it's highly exaggerated. Hardcore followers won't believe anything they don't want to believe. The high-ranking members don't believe what they preach anyway and I'm sure are no strangers to porn themselves...

      1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

        Re: I'll reserve judgement

        "When they say they found child porn then I will know for sure it's a black PR exercise."

        Given the level of IT sophistication that these people have shown over the years, I think we can assume that if he is running Windows then his machine has been part of a child porn botnet for many years.

        Of course, if he was running Linux then the porn stash was probably his own.

      2. HFoster

        Mrs bin Laden

        I'm pretty sure I heard something about ObL having a teenaged wife? Like, the kind of young where, had they married in the EU or USA, it would be illegal.

        But then, how much of that is true. He's been a decade-long lammist, he's not exactly gonna be on This Morning with Philip & Fern (which makes it easy to make up bollocks about him).

  35. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge

    New keyboard please

    "Let's face it, the only way the US administration could have got more column inches out of the outrage was if bin Laden had been caught in bed with a Las Vegas hooker and a bottle of Scotch, toking on a post-coital spliff while reading The Satanic Verses."

    Nice one, that

  36. Anonymous Coward


    "Let's face it, the only way the US administration could have got more column inches out of the outrage was if bin Laden had been caught in bed with a Las Vegas hooker and a bottle of Scotch, toking on a post-coital spliff while reading The Satanic Verses"

    you owe me a new netbook, this one is covered in half chewed crunchy nut cornflakes.

  37. Just Thinking

    Sleight of hand

    While everybody is wondering whether the story about OBL's porn is true, nobody is wondering whether the story about him being killed is true. Nice trick.

    1. Marty

      I dont belive it...

      I don't believe he is dead, and not in a Elvis kind of way, more of a Jim Morrison kind of way....

      It needed a body for a 3rd party to confirm that it was/was not OBL before they "vanished" the body...

      have Al Quada confirmed that it was OBL and his compound that was raided?

      1. Ken Hagan Gold badge
        Black Helicopters

        Re: I don't believe it

        "have Al Quada confirmed that it was OBL and his compound that was raided?"

        Actually, yes. They confirmed it about a day or two after the raid. (Of course, it is in AQ's interests for the US to believe that he is dead.....)

  38. Anonymous Coward

    it really makes me wonder

    it really makes me wonder that a government that has made such a poor job of the"alleged" killing of OBL, (i still say they have him in Guantanamo Bay) and the following black PR. job actually managed to dispose of JFK and keep that all hushed up for near 60 years...

  39. david 63


    ...or it isn't true.

  40. Andrew Moore

    My tuppence worth...

    If it is true that this is just black propaganda then it's incredibly inept (so yes, it's very feasible that it's a CIA op). Given the source of the information, none of the fundies are going to buy into it, even if it is true.

    What they should have done:

    1. Have a low level official drop the story on a semi-respectable blogger (preferably non-US)

    2. Wait for the story to go viral with all the ensuing 'what are the US military not telling us!!!' hysteria.

    3. Drop a copy of an official looking inventory of said stash on Wikileaks.

  41. Sarah Davis

    it's all true,... also,...

    watch out for these headlines as further facts are released by the always trustworth U.S. gov,..

    Bin Laden used to smell !

    Bin Laden used to smell his own farts !

    Bin Laden used to smell other peoples farts !

    Bin Laden used to pick his nose and eat it !

    Bin Laden used to pick other peoles noses and eat it !

    Bin Laden is a stinky poo bum and eats other peoles farts does a wee !

    Bin Laden only had one testicle !

    Bin Laden had no testicles !

    Bin Laden was a transvestite !

    Bin Laden was actually a woman !

    Bin Laden was the bastard child of Hitler !

    Bin Laden has a small PC built into his head !

    Bin Laden used a Mac !

    Bin Laden was actually English !

    Bin Laden cam from Mars !

    ...and they're all true

  42. Sarah Davis

    not forgetting (ammendment to previous post)

    Bin Laden is a stinky poo bum transvestite, with no testicles from Mars called frank, who eats other peoples farts and smells a wee on Hitlers Mac working for Burger King, and picks other peoples bum and eats it on Mars, with a wee !

  43. Rob - Denmark

    Arriving in your Spam-folder anytime soon

    "Click here to see Osana Bin Laden's secret porn stash. For free! (Age verification by credit card required)."

  44. Schultz

    The real question:

    Could he have been prosecuted under the extreme pron law? Maybe the last thing standing when the judge remove all torture and hearsay allegations in the postmortem trial.

  45. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Not the revelation I picked up on...

    The one thing I thought when the news came out that bin Laden had been located: So all those videos of him standing dirty outside a cave weren't an accurate representation of his daily living conditions? "I'm one of you ... see? One of you! Down with the West! ... is that still on? I need to get back to catch 'The Office' ..."

  46. Anonymous Coward
    Big Brother

    can we believe the yankee gov about anything?

    just sounds like another slur on that guy bin liner.

  47. sumguy
    Big Brother

    wouldnt trust anything any governments tell us

    *hands over a pinch of salt*

  48. Anonymous Coward

    Seriously ?

    Not one single person here talking about Tower 7 or any of the other impossible events of 9-11 as sold to us by those with the best track record for lying?

    Its not Bin-Laden we are interested in here surely ?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Black Helicopters

      you mean like...

      it was a missile that hit the pentagon and not a plane.... and the plane that was actually supposed to have hit the pentagon was probably shot down over the sea....

      how far fetched would it have been for a terrorist to have infiltrated the US air force...

      I could go on about it all day, but in short, the published events of 9/11 are not the whole truth....

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward


        "it was a missile that hit the pentagon and not a plane"

        dunno about the rest, but my father has a photo of the plane flying low over dc cemetery shortly before impact on pentagon

  49. the old rang

    "American" Owned

    Highlighting this line:

    <i>Another report from "American-owned" Associated Press raised an eyebrow down at the UK's Independent on Sunday.</i>

    Of the article. I take some moderate exception.

    George Soros, the DNC, and those currently running the white house, own the opinions, polls and statements of most of the very left wing radical media...

    There are many, here, that resent them being called 'Americans.'

    Certainly not believers in the US Constitution or American Values.

    Look at just the issues that they lie for and lie against...

    And refuse to 'truth' about.

    Most of what I get for news, comes from other than media sources on this side of the pond...

    And a damned shame, I have to sometimes rely on sources the media is ashamed to admit have the right to publish.

    Those that 'own' the AP may be of dubious American Citizenship... or values...

    Those that controle AP...

    Hardly have Traditional American Values.

    Like honoring private property, truth, honor, integrity, responsibility for your own actions...

    If you a going to slam my opinion... Please start with the value 'Truth'...

    Something 95% of the US media knows little about... ever publishing

  50. Version 1.0 Silver badge
    Black Helicopters


    So they raid the compound using two modified helicopters with 25 Seals - and lose one of the transports - yet still have the space and weight-lift to pull out all of the original Seals, plus a body AND all of the computers?

    Did they call for another helicopter - because 25 armed men don't fit into one helicopter ...

    Running off with a bucket load of portable drives and RAM drives sounds OK - maybe they just used laptops ... but I think that's unlikely - and PC boxes are bulky beasts ...

    Something's not right about the whole story.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      re: Did they call for another helicopter

      I thought reports said that the assault was launched from the two stealth choppers, supported by a second wave of conventional choppers.

  51. Anonymous Coward

    I guess that phone s3x chat lines in the ME are a bit tame by our standards....

    "What are you wearing"

    "A large black sack with a one inch visor slot and bare wrists and ankles".

    Nope doesn't do it for me.

    Guess you'd have to have been shut up in one room for ten years before you'd find that mild stimulating.

    As Basil Brush says ...Boom Boom!

    I'll get me's the one lined with 500 Euro notes.

  52. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @ Version 1.0

    "Did they call for another helicopter - because 25 armed men don't fit into one helicopter ..."

    Very good thinking! Now why didn't that occur to me. Oh yes - it was so bloody obvious I never twigged. Now you mention it...

    Damn. WHEN am I going to stop falling for that "Big Lie" technique???

  53. Anonymous Coward


    Shouldn't that be t'other ?

  54. Nebulo

    Don't believe a word of it.

    Too good to be true? - You betcha. I call BS. Purest BS. Whoever it was that they killed in that compound (and I say that as someone who has believed OBL to be dead since Dec 2001), the "can't keep his bits in his trousers" smear is such standard US Gov't fare that no-one should believe a word of it anymore. Keeps Joe Public interested though, that's for sure. Just to remind you of a few fairly recent cases:

    The UN's Scott Ritter - an expert causing embarrassment to the US, or someone who can't keep his bits in his trousers?

    Julian Assange - leaking embarrassment to the US, or someone who can't keep his bits in his trousers? (Thanks, Sweden, we owe you one)

    FFS - Bill Clinton - president unpopular with "certain elements" of the US hierarchy, or someone who can't keep his bits in his trousers?

    And now OBL - great terror threat to the US, or someone who can't keep his bits in his trousers?

    It makes you wonder what they've got against Strauss-Kahn, as the standard smear is wheeled out yet again.

    For the record, the Nebulo trousers are on and the zip zipped. True, I am not knowingly any threat to the US government, but should I ever decide to become one there's no reason to assume that it will make any difference to my sex drive or (minimal) appreciation of porn.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward


      Don't forget Craig Murray - another honest, decent man who was viciously libelled by his own government in order to discredit his testimony.

  55. Grubby

    DVD Collection

    Just Bin Laid

    Just Bin Laid 2

    Naked from the neck down

    Jerka that Berka

    Suicide Bummers

    She mus'limp

    Jihard from behind

  56. Andydaws

    I see the nutters are out in force

    Still, Am I the only one who gets a bizarre menal image from this?

    That of porn actors shouting "allahu ackbar" when they get to the money shot?

  57. Anonymous Coward

    Can't believe

    no one's remarked that that must've been a big load of camel toe.

    I can imagine Bin Laden thoughts as he watched 72 Virgins 72:

    "Phwoar, there goes the veil, look at the chin on that!"

    "Oh my God, Peace be upon Him, she's going all the way up to the nose!"

    "Bugger me a camel, what I wouldn't give for a bit of forehead!"

    "Eyebrows out for the lads, love!"

  58. Mips
    Jobs Horns

    OH you have really let the genie out of the bottle now

    "Let's face it, the only way the US administration could have got more column inches out of the outrage was if bin Laden had been caught in bed with a Las Vegas hooker and a bottle of Scotch, toking on a post-coital spliff while reading The Satanic Verses."

    You wrote it so it must be true.

  59. solaries
    Big Brother

    Bin Laden smeer

    This Bin Laden pron story is just plain dumb the report makes him more human thou pron would have made perfect sense as a way of cover for sending messages to AQ followers there would be no idea to hes pursuers he was keeping in touch with his followers as the idea he was taken alive saying he killed would be perfect cover or killing him to keep his mouth shut there a old saying the dead tell no tales as to were they found also makes sense it would be the last place they would be looking for him.

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