Julian Assange angel and devil icons.
We at the El Reg Central Overseeing Commenter Soviet are considering whether to expand the available spread of comments icons to include some news images - the better for you, our beloved readers, to express yourselves with wit and elegance. Our existing comments icons If you reckon we need some fresh images to add to the …
There's demands for love+hate Fry, love+hate Assange, love+hate zuckerberg, love+hate Facebook --- it will never end. There's already a love (heart), so just a generic hate will do and remove this clutter.
Actually, remove the gates/jobs icons; it's a false dichotomy anyway with an Ellison and a Ballmer to object to etc etc.
As in, tally all the icons used and some table (or a fancy pie graph or whatever, knock yourself out) tabulating the percentages? Ask the local db-botherer for the raw numbers, assuming the back-end is a db with a botherer. Oh and I don't think links dragged into the message should count as "used this icon", no.
Ideally we'd also tally all the times someone asked for an icon or used an icon "because no $other icon". But, well, that's more freeform text search type work, so more effort.
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and less confrontational than "not het". Not that this has anything to do with the robustness (or lack thereof) of the beverage in question, mind you, since beverage choice runs the gamut from the deepest blackest stouts and trippelbocks to the lightest "lite" yellow fizzy water among LGBTQ quaffers.
As for icons, how about a "meh smiley" -- with a horizontal line where the smile would be if it were denoting joy -- the one that's usually typed :| (colon pipe)?
You won't see me sneaking up on you (although you may smell the hops) and I'll have an arrow in your head before you can raise the shotty.
I use a 100lb longbow (bickerstaff) with homemade arrows (and I don't buy the dowels from B&Q) and a team hoyt recurve (60lbs) with 32.75" carbon fibre arrows.
I personally find that sandals with socks is far preferable to sandals and naked feet, bent toes, broken nails, cracked heels, corns and all.
As long as they are tidy and relatively clean, I can only find fashion reasons against wearing socks, whereas I can find many, many reasons for wearing them, and I am completely unrepentant in this attitude.
When it comes down to it, it really depends on how much a slave to fashion you are.
I've never grown a beard, and morris dancing has only a passing interest, but the rest applies!
I'm fast approaching 50 y.o. and, even though I can somewhat agree with you, I find my mind harping back to the late 70's early 80's and the festivals - after trekking back from the late night artist socks were just a regal pain in the arse:; leave 'em in the tent and you'd wake up to a chemical warfare attack, leave 'em outside and they'd be full of nasties.
I prefer a decent pair of hiking sandals and nothing else.
"nothing else", I meant what I was wearing on my feet - I was always clad in tie-dye, denim and whatever else I could remember to put on while completely wasted on several flavours of hash and weed (and lots of Real Ale).
Then I went back to fixing equipment whilst working at Burroughs, then Unisys then...somewhere else...
Right on, there, man. Cripes, if it's cold enough out that you need socks, just put on some goddamn' shoes.
For the warm part of the year, I've got a pair of nice sturdy hiking sandals, and flip-flops for those summer days when I'm feeling really lazy, but the wife needs me to run down to the corner grocery.
I did say "clean". I would be interested (in an academic sense - I have no dirty sock fetish) in finding out what made your socks such foul things. If you wore them for days on end, or paddled through mud in them, or maybe didn't wash your feet than I can understand. If your feet get wet, then maybe the choice of sandals was wrong in the first place.
Maybe I'm lucky, but my socks come off at the end of the day only a little more smelly than they were at the beginning, and even less so if I have been wearing sandals..
...and I'll say it again; we need a "(Won't Somebody Please) Think of The Children?" icon (Maude Flanders subject to copyright).
Also need an "evil google" icon to go with the Apple and MS ones (you can't get rid of Saint Steve while you're at it).
Finally, a Freetard Alert icon.
...there's a neat picture of Picard and Riker simultaneously applying face to palm out there, "Double facepalm - when the fail is so strong, one facepalm isn't enough"
Might not shrink to an icon though.
Gates has retired, so should his icon: Sweaty Steve as his replacement, ta. And open up the rogue's gallery for Google, Facefuck, WackiWackiWorldOfWiki, etc
The flame thingy doesn't immediately convey its purpose. Or indeed have anything to do with flaming.
Paris to be replaced with Lindsay.
Nuclear mushroom cloud instead of the flame (or perhaps the pineapple).
Not sure about LL. We definitely need a 'strumpet to lust after' icon, but who? The women I lust after are (probably) not, by and large, strumpets, and are therefore out of the frame.
I forbear to comment about La Modératrice, though visions of a certain film starring a young Gérard Depardieu do arise unbidden in my mind.
...this "strumpet" discussion has got me thinking that for those articles that elicit a general reaction of "big damn' deal", we need an icon of Catherine Tate(?), that "Am I Bovvered?" chick.
As far as a Strumpet To Lust After Icon, though, I'd rather like a shot of Carol Cleveland in her Monty Python prime, but I'm dating myself. (she really was ultra-hot, though)
"Nuclear mushroom cloud instead of the flame"
Err, anything that even approaches a roasting-ish flamewar-y thingie, something that would barely register on Usenet Pyrometers, tends to get moderaticated into the great bitbucket of non-publication. But maybe the icon could stand for the writer's pre-self-redacted verbiage.
The thumbs up/down, stop/go and happy/sad face icons seem to serve pretty much the same purposes. Similarly WTF & FAIL.
Also, seeing as Bill Gates is not longer at MS (at least in an active role) a set of Ballmer (& chair?) icons would be more appropriate.
How about some Shuttleworth horns/halo icons?
Agreed get rid of Gates but lets not bother with Ballmer, get shot of Jobs too. Both are very boring now. Get rid of the celebutard too, the Paris because..... 'joke' has been done to death many times over.
How about an Eye of Sauron picture with the popup text: Google - <strikethrough>Don't</strikethrough> be evil. That'd get a lot of use.
Quite like the idea of a 'we need an icon for....' but I've no idea what it could look like
Don't take my Paris! Please! Seriously, don't, she is responsible for most of my upvotes (experience points) thanks to all the cheap shots I have at her expense!
The Frycon idea is good, quite interesting in fact - boom boom.
Maybe replace the grammar Nazi one with the Guardian's logo?
An icon representing Big Society? Maybe it could be a boarded up council library or a malnourished child?
Picture of a fluffy kitten for hard hitting serious stories? I'm out of ideas now.
-A "WIN" icon to go along with the "FAIL" icon - perhaps a bit of meme use is in order, with the use of Patrick Stewart's image as the background?
-A middle finger icon to go with the thumbs-up and thumbs-down gestures. Suppose that might be mildly NSFW.
-A picture of our favorite Moderatrix in full black leather regalia, wagging her finger. For... Hrm. Forum reasons. Communication. Yes.
-A cross-eyed face, to indicate confusion.
-A picture of Steve Jobs with steam pouring from his ears. He gets mad a lot.
-The "none" icon should be replaced by the image of a clergywoman in full habit, because puns.
A "We need a new icon" icon is clearly required (although this may create a self-referential feedback loop).
Also a "Playmobil reconstruction required" icon; however if we exclude the spectacular PARIS event it has been at least 18 months since the last one, so this may be a lost cause.
Finally a "You clearly haven't actually read the article so your foaming at the mouth about it only makes you look a fool" icon for the comment responders to use.
Second the playmobil, also more reconstruction required. A new new icon icon is nice in theory but, er, dunno about practical. See also: Bee and vetoing submit-your-own. There's death-of-el-reg that'll substitute, though if I use that in anger my posts get rejected. Bummer. Anyway. Not disliking the idea of the YDNRTFA icon but again practicality: It'd easily supplant all other icon use. I think I'll prefer variety.
Or rather retire him... it doesn't help that the Evil Steve Jobs icon looks a bit like Steve Ballmer, though.
Mark Zuckerberg and something Cruel and Unusual- in the same icon.
The hand grenade is all well and good, but could surely be updated with laser range finding and remote detonation capability in this day and age.
More lasers. In fact every icon should have one.
Does Paris need a question mark?
The Welcome Mat and T1000 could be combined... somehow.
Likewise the Ill Get My Coat and Joke Alert.
An Android pro/con icon. An "oh my God, Orlowski has comments enabled" icon ;-) for those rare occasions.
But most importantly, an autofilter for the fools that drag the icons into the text box (ironic example coming up..)
Shaking Fist (or just rage, such as purple head spitting). Could be the Flame icon is good enough?
Generic Angel / Demon icons
Balance / scales
Moderatrix - need we say more?
Web 2.0 / marketing fluff
Lizard overlords - so special they need their own icon
Just improving the current icons would be a good start, some a pretty lame.
How about a 'No Comment' icon for those rare occasions when you can comment on an Andrew Orlowski article, but still feel the need to point out that oftentimes you just can't and it's pissing you off.
Have a 'middle finger' in addition to the two thumbs-buttons, as it so often and accurately portrays the feelings of the poster.
BillyG has been around a long time, maybe the crew at El Reg has heard of a new sheriff in town. Goes by the name of Ballmer. Rumour has it he's going to turn this whole Microsoft thing around. Instead of producing copycat non-functional overpriced crap, Microsoft will from now on produce only the finest softwares available.
Never mind, turns out this Ballmer guy has been CEO for the past decade. My mistake. You should still update the icons to reflect this though.
--all in all--
More of a refinement to the existing set. Not too many bright ideas before lunch, sorry.
I'm not a great icon user as few of them "speak to me". In fact I'd have to say I don't know what most of the ones with a face on them mean - or are for. They're too small and too busy to have an immediate impact.
We keep getting told that tablets are the way of the future, providing we keep taking them. So I'd suggest a fondleslab icon - I'll leave the details of what, exactly, should be fondled up to t'committee.
Thinking move the personality icons to the bottom two (new) rows, which would allow 12. Second from bottom row is their 'angelic' form and bottom their 'demonic' form in the same order, so they are above/below each other. May allow that number of personality icons without appearing cluttered. YMMV, but might be worth a mock-up to see.
I'd like to nominate a plain, black square with the word "Friday" written on it (I'm torn between plain white and dayglo multicoloured horror for the text here, although Comic Sans has to be the font), to be used when making a point about any meejah atrocity. Like that one.
I'd also like to nominate Ms Black for an award for providing us with a handy yardstick to measure crapness with.
How about good/evil Amazon? I would suggest Jeff Bezos, but despite working here for 5 years I don't have a clue what he looks like.
And on the subject of improving el Reg even more, any chance of moving the "back to the forum" link on the up/down vote page? Using a netbook means scrolling down past the comment to get to the link; it'd be nice if it was beside the "we're glad you liked this post" text. Pretty please?
Using the browser back button means the thumbs up/down isn't updated unless you refresh the page.
There's often enough a pointless and repetitive story, of human endeavour pointed the wrong way. Which deserves a swamp castle.
<<When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, lad, the strongest castle in all of England. >>
And I second earlier call for a dustbin, as "good riddance" is an often-relevant emotion.
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I'm sure that's a wonderful idea sir. Let's see, this here's sir's coat, I believe. Good evening sir.
...using 'Anonymous Coward' entries most weeks, they really don't care who submits or how, since they log IP addresses and use those to enforce temporary bans where needed.
Though I admit, I too am sick of the endless dicking about with the comments.
New icon: Robbie The Robot ("***k off, I'm having a geek moment"), to limit the use of the 'Reg gravestone' whenever an article on geek movies/TV etc goes up.
Inverted Facebook "F" - for a fail on or about Facebook.
Ditto Twitter. (Fail Whale?)
A Stormtrooper (Nazi or Starwars, doesn't matter).
Replace Bill with "that sweaty, over excited bloke"?
Where the heck is RMS?
A "broken brain".
Buzz Lightyear (self dilution - "You are a Toy!").
Yoda ("impenetrable marketing speak this is, hmm, hmm?").
Plug lying next to socket (user error).
Slide rule (for "it was better in my day", or "isn't this browser just like a terminal?" - an "old fart's icon")
but a "Slide rule" icon would probably do quite well.
Possibly do want to limit the good/evil icons, an Evil penguin might in the long run be a better icon ... or similarly good/evil Google, good/evil browser,etc ...
I thought about suggesting an Evil/Good FSF (free software foundation) ... but it might look to much like the FFS! proposal :)
of an evil penguin icon.
Could go for a BSD icon as well. Though if you pick Beastie, it might be a little hard to tell if he's a good Beastie, or an evil Beastie.
While not strictly under the purview of icons, changing the title and body requirement to just one or the other and not loading a new page when clicking on the thumbs up/down buttons would be nice too.
Oompa Loopas for chocolate factory. With or without red slashed circle.
Suggest Eye of Sauron only for snooping governments.
swinging door (outwards) for "its Friday and not on call " ? Not to be confused with I'll get my coat...
I'll second the sky gazing cliff step off
Replace the Gates of hell with the yacking yatchsman Larry E
PHB type icon for dumb and dumber management (anything to do with large corporates and Governments ?)
Toy train for bleeding obvious aka Clue Train.
Third coffee icon suggestion. By morning tea I have usually downed 6 cups and need a pick me up as the effect is wearing off.
Please leave Paris alone. We need some traditions.
Back to the ubuntu abomination now...
- The Horned Phone(tm), for those ranting IT moments regarding our users. Please release it for our perusal. Plus the final art is already complete.
- A capital red G with a devil's tail. You can figure it out. Make it blue if red is not suitable.
- The radioactivity Icon with the subtitle pop-up "Prolonged exposure to this comment may cause life span reduction" or sorts.
- I liked the playmobil idea.
The Picard facepalm would work, but I'd rather have a Kirk facepalm if one exists.
As far as actual face icons. They could be used for a year or two and then a fresh batch voted in. I'm for Paris being a permanent icon though. Maybe an Einstein or Betty White to balance it out.
A dead horse icon.
Cartoon baby face crying (squirtin' tears).
A ninja (in star wars p.j.'s if the res was good enough).
A picture of dog poo or Mr. Hanky.
A knight with no arms or legs.
Sheldon Cooper/Penny icons.
Yesh, that might be useful. Buuut... I don't really want any of that in my inbox, as my comments don't go there already. And I do feel fairly strongly about your workflows --your rules, fine, I'll stick to your script-- not also interfering on mine --my rules, my script, and you can stay well out of it, thanks.
So a "ta" rejection-notice would be useful. I mean, if you're going to abuse the rejection button for that, might as well add the function required to mark that rejection with just what function it was rejected for.
If not, then we'd better stick to the standing practice to send notes to the author using the link-and-webform and no icon is required, or useful.
I can't be arsed to read through all these comments so there's a good chance this has already been said and I'm contributing nothing but noise to the discussion:
- A 'La la la not listening' icon
- An 'I haven't read the article properly before posting my comments so it's probable I'm commenting on something you didn't actually say but only what I thought you said' icon
- An 'I can't be arsed to read through all these comments so there's a good chance this has already been said and I'm contributing nothing but noise to the discussion' icon
Get rid of Bill Gates angel / devil. He retired years ago.
The aforementioned Assange angel / devil sounds like a winner to me.
No to Facebook, No to Twitter, No to any flash in the pan website fad.
Change the terminator icon from "Your foster parents are dead" to "AI is coming and may already be here"
Dr Stephen Hawking in place of the round blue gent with the specs.
A generic angel and a devil.
The Piratebay logo to mark Freetards.
You have Paris, add Lohan... and Biel, and Mother Theresa.
Eye of Sauron AND a Ring.
No to Zuck. A Reg icon is a thing of honor and he simply does not deserve it.
You have an exclamation point, but no question mark???
A "No Suitable Icon Present" icon.
Last a "Pie-in-the-sky" for all these half-baked ideas that keep floating to the surface.
Get rid of:
Paris (that was amusing for all of a week)
The 'I'll get my coat'/'Mine's the one with the...' - everyone who uses it thinks they're funny, and they really arent.
The blue 'may contain scientific stuff' - does anyone ever use it?
Web2.0 made of badger's paws - sorry, it's just stupid.
The pictures of people with halos and horns - focus on companies more than individuals.
The gravestone - really? why is it there?
Company love/hate logos.
Bacon - because it's bacon and bacon is only for things that are awesome...like bacon...mmm...bacon.
Something that says 'I originally wrote a 4 paragraph post to explain this, but then deleted it all and just wrote this one line because that's all you'd understand anyway.'
A Toilet - because that's where this tripe should be flushed.
A TARDIS - there are plenty of comments that either go on about historical stuff, or future stuff.
We've had smiley's - maybe we need a new range of icons for the new intertube age - they would be called "igno-rants"
Get in early with these
A cartoon of (Insert famous politician of choice) as an icon for "I don't know anything about this subject but I'm going to spout on anyway"
an icon of a big gaping mouth for "I didn't read the article but jumped straight to the comments section"
How about just making it so if someone posts an internet link it doesn't create scroll bars that cover the last word on every row of their comment?
For a tech site, that shows a surprising lack of robustness testing.
(added icon I have very rarely seen, since it will probably be gone soon)
...as I didn't have the time/motivation to pore over all two hundred-odd comments (sorry if any of these have already been suggested):
- I'm pretty "down" with the Ellison, Schmidt, Zuckerberg, et. al. with devil's horns. I suppose corresponding icons with angel's halos would only be fair, but nobody I know likes those guys.
- Perhaps a wider selection of beer icons. Right now it's just an ale; I like ales OK, but I really dig stout. Perhaps a similar pint of stout icon for when you really want to adamantly affirm the desire to "buy that man a pint".
-"No shit, Sherlock" icon. Definitely. I suggest a close-up shot of Basil Rathbone with pipe and deerstalker, from the classic 30s/40s film series.
-Bozo The Clown icon, perhaps foto/close-up from the old 50s/60s US kids' show, for those times you really want to blurt out "jeezus, what a bunch of clownshit!" (See SF NewTech article)
-Ballmer As Crazed Dancing Monkey Boy Icon. Close-up shot of crazed, sweaty Ballmer from the infamous Developers' Conference video. For when Microsoft does something really whacked.
-Facepalm: For those articles that make you... you know, facepalm. That shot of Captain Picard from the widely-circulated Demotivational Poster would be perfect.
-"My God, It's Full Of..." Icon. The famous extreme close-up of Bowman from '2001' as he watches the video explaining his mission (http://www.sportsbabel.net/2001bowman.jpg) -- for those posts that make you think "holy fucking shit...!"
-Insanely Smiling Noddy Holder Icon. Close-up of ol' Noddy with that hat with the mirrors all over it, gleefully leering, for those inevitable Reg articles discussing brassieres, ladies' underwear, "jubs", or Bulgarian Airbags... because Noddy wrote so many great songs about getting your hands into ladies' underwear.
Print of beer icon, because it's about noon here on the US East Coast, which means it's probably around beer o'clock-ish in London right now(?).
1) a nice little donkey, viewed from behind, to signify that I think the idea/comment/article/whatever was written by an ass
2) a fairy in a woodland landscape, to signify that I think the idea/comment/article/whatever comes from/is written by some lunatic in lalaland
3) a pitchfork, preferably on a flaming background, to signify that I would really, really like to skewer the idea/comment/article/whatever and be done with it
Oh, and let's get rid of the Gates icons, replace them with Jobs icons and it'll be fine.
Thank you for your attention.
I'm delighted that El Reg has finally identified a great need (clearly lots of other people agree).
I prefer generic to 'personalised' icons.
I would like a sarcastic "Well I never knew that" icon - haven't a clue how you'd implement it though.
A/Cs should not be able to chose an icon, but would get a fixed one of a character pointing and laughing.
The icon I most often want? How about a little can of spam? I recommend one of those ovalish ones, seen from above and tilted at an angle, with "Spam" visible on the top. You may think I'm fixated on the problem, but the Internet is really going to hell in a handcart these days, and I think the spammers are leading the parade of scammers and associated criminals. They're certainly operating on the largest scale.
Perhaps a little white hat icon for comments related to good and ethical hackers, and a black hat for the obvious usage?
Perhaps a six-shooter icon for comments about the currently increasingly lawless state of things?
How about a money icon for comments related to economics? Are you up to an animated icon that rotates or switches from the euro to the pound to the dollar to the yen (to a couple of others)? Maybe a morphing animated icon?
I'm trying to think of an icon for lawyers and legalese... Perhaps a mess of spaghetti? Or would that just be taken as the 'bad code' icon?
We posterbois certainly know how to get our priorities right, don't we? Could we please have an irony-alert icon - for those who tend to miss that kind of thing? The joke-alert icon (although often useful) doesn't always fit the bill, if one is trying to be a *little* bit subtle.
Some more icons would make it more informative and entertaining = fun. So go ahead and add some, I like the idea!http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/thumb_up_32.png
Also, if possible, I would like to add a Scott ish icon from here: (example)
Oh, and we seriously need a 'police state' icon
And another thing -- couldn't we have the option of a Spitfire icon for comments?
Can we have a "facepalm" icon, please?
Can we have a radiation icon ?
We need an "atomic mushroom" icon...
Where's the 'fish with legs' icon? james oshea 201009271414
Where's the 2 cents icon? h6 201009290523
Can we have a Guy Fawkes Mask icon now, please?
Where's the Evil Eric icon, ffs? Bilgepipe 201009300856
we don't have a towel icon.. @ Stumpy20101004
Can we please have a turd icon?
And can we have a Monkey icon please ?
When are you adding a spade and hole icon??! @Steve Martins 201010081110
Where's the 'not sure' icon?@JB201010122148
Can we have a fire extinguisher icon please?@Michael.H.F.Wilkinson201010121539
Can I have an icon of a hand from the Deep South of America where there's a thumb
at the top and the bottom to indicate that it goes both ways?@Ihre Papiere Bitte!!201010141551
" there is no Gram icon ".@Disco-Legend-Zeke201010150926
(Hey! El Reg! Why isn't there a tinfoil hat icon, eh?)@James O'Shea201010192151
Where is that shoot-yourself-in-the-foot icon?@Destroy All Monsters201010220140
Posted whilst a bit pissed icon @bugalugs ( a fallen bottle or can )
how about a FYI icon ? many good ones in others' posts above too.
I'm thinking something a bit more general purpose.
1) Total fanbois *completely* under the control of Apple/Google/Linux/Microsoft/etc
2)User/site/company totally pwnd by virus/worm attack.
I give you the Gimp face mask from Pulp Fiction.
Stood the test of time.
Leaves people in no doubt what you think of them.
We need an icon for use when responding to commentards who demonstrate a failure to take in information contained in the article or available via a link within in the article.
Maybe Penelope Cruz 'cos of her role in "Abre los ojos" - English title "Open Your Eyes"?
Also, with various cloudy networky type things breaking down recently maybe we need a titsup icon of some sort. I'll let you decide how literally to interpret it.
Most of them should be *timeless*. XX is good/XX is bad. Well there are *plenty* of people who divide opinions like that. The saints/sinners list changes over time (Larry Ellison and Peter Norton would probably be on it and might still deserve to be) .but the fact they divide peoples *opinions* on them *never* changes.
I'm not sure how to handle this one but perhaps a general "Halo" and "Horns with trident" pair (with who should be wearing them depending on what the stories about) might do it.
Question mark for "I don't get what the poster/author is trying to say or why"
Gimp mask from Pulp Fiction for both "you're a total fanbois" and their account/website/company has been pwnd and is completely under outside control. Either you're a gimp or you've been gimped.
I'd like something a bit more timeless than the Paris Hilton one but I'm not sure who. They'd have to be well know for being vacuous on both sides of the Atlantic. Marilyn Monroe perhaps?
Marie Antoniete with "Let them eat cake" has the right tone but might be a bit high brow.
Remember *Nothing* dates faster than ideas about the future.