
Rule 14: do not argue with trolls, for this is how trolls win
exactly who is troliing who here is neither clear nor particularly interesting
Denizens of Anonymous defaced a website run by the Westboro Baptist Church on Thursday during a live radio interview. An ongoing spat between the controversial church of GodHatesFags fame and the loosely knit hacking collective began last weekend with a message threatening hacks against websites that, depending on who you …
You may salute Anon/B board, but they have just given WBC a whole load of publicity that they wouldn't have otherwise had. I tend to view WBC as a bunch of nutters who should be seen and heard of as little as possible. Allowing them to get plastered all over the news is not a good thing.
Anonymous, however are rapidly moving into the territory of Internet bully #1. At least the WBC stand up, in public and profess their hateful bile. Anon lurk around on the Internet taking down sites which they disagree with, they are vigilanties with presumably good intentions, but actually they are doing more damage than good at the moment, in my opinion.
Huh.. Do you know who anonomous are?
Anonymous have been running anti-Church of Scientology protests for years, in public. Its only just recently they've added those who target Wikileaks, and other attempts to squash freedom of speech to their target list.
Anon have no problems getting "physical".
I have a theory that Shirley Phelps-Roper is in fact, 'Jester'. Notice the fixed, manic grin; the painfully constructed appearance of jollity and clumsy bonhomie. See how she weaves strawmen with a smile then cuts them down before they get a chance to move. Then again, maybe I'm paranoid; maybe she's paranoid. Who knows ......?
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I'm not standing up for Anonymous, but I think that good Christians should stand up and denounce these haters.
Some of the things they say are hate speech, if you were to speak of "Blacks" or "Jews" in such a manner, it would be a crime.
How can we think we are different than the middle east if also allow people to spread hate "in the name of god".
why doesn't that stupid woman shut-up whent the host or 'anon' rep are talking? Does she not know how to debate, or conduct a 3 way interview? She argues like a beligerent child, not like an informed adult. She's uninformed, impolite, and appears unable to hold an intelligent debate.
As for God creating the internet for Westbro,...!!!! wtf, how can you explain someting to someone who is far to stupid to comprehend an explanation ?
I suppose Westbro feel any publicity is good, right.
"She argues like a beligerent child, not like an informed adult. She's uninformed, impolite, and appears unable to hold an intelligent debate."
I guess she's an ideal "debating" candidate for the conservative punditry circuit, then. Having said that, a lot of political debate is pretty dismal in the western democracies: people spouting their ill-informed dogma rather than listening to people in the know.
It is not her role to "Debate" or give time to the other side - she is not attempting to give rational debate.
It is her role, and the policy of the WBC to simply keep talking and talking and talking and shouting and shouting over all others.
She in fact, a bridge-swelling billy-goat harasser.
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There have been suggestions of knocking them offline before. WBC host their servers on a connection provided by a 'proper' webhost rather than just an ADSL connection.
The apostrophe's around proper are there because it would appear that a member of Fred Phelp's family owns the hosting provider. Can't remember much else at this point though!
Definitely not ADSL, but definitely a bunch of nutters
The last time I went to a church 'service' (the catholic brand, decades ago), advice from dear mum came to mind just about the time everyone was supposed to shuffle to the front of the church and eat this wafer thing (communion) ..
"don't put that in your mouth, you don't know where it's been."
yuck.
Aside from that I don't believe an invisible sky fairy is watching each and every one of us, with a list of 10 things we should not do...
I'm all for giving Anonymous attention. Their goals are (generally) admirable even if their methods are questionable.
That said I'm begging all you at El Reg to drop this story. Just don't write on it, or anything else dealing with WBC, anymore. Seriously, WBC gets WAY too much press. Until world + dog agree to just ignore thier dumb asses they're going to continue to get worse and worse, thinking up more and more outrageous methods of getting attention.
As much as I hate the WBC, this just gives them ammunition that they can hand to their minions to fling at the sane folk, in lieu of the usual fistful of poo.
First of all, Anon (or Jester, or whatever) should not have bragged about it; that's free publicity for America's foremost hate institution. Secondly, they should have just quietly rerouted the site to some hideous fetish link. Not that I'm encouraging crime, mind you...just saying, that would've been better.
As if they weren't strange enough, take a listen to their amusing music covers in this mini documentary:
http://www.danmorris.com/2011/02/17/westboro-baptist-church-pickets-salt-lake-city-video-2/
Read More: http://www.urlesque.com/2011/02/25/anonymous-hacks-westboro-baptist-church-tv/#ixzz1F1XoOvdT
WBC are not a church, and are (probably) not nutters. They are a (mostly family) pack of lawyers who deliberately provoke people (e.g. by harassing them at funerals) into doing something they can be sued for. They specialize in suing cities when police don't cross every t and dot every i.
In short, they are trolls who have monetized their hobby. Don't feed them.