Wooden spaceship descends into Moscow sandpit Joyous news from the European Space Agency today, which reports that it has successfully landed three astronauts on Mars. Sadly this is only simulated Mars: the three spacesuited pioneers are at present exploring a large indoor sandpit, having spent the previous eight months inside a wood-panelled simulator pretending they were …
Let's hope they're young enough not to know 'Wooden Ships' by JA. They might find the bit where the narrators who are sailing away in the wooden ships look back at the people they left behind a little depressing:
Horror grips us as we watch you die,
All we can do is echo your anguished cries,
Stare as all human feelings die,
We are leaving,
You don't need us.
Maybe ESA should consider making the spaceship out of something other than wood.
Unfortunately there is no 'old hippy' icon...
If they really want to study what effect this length of isolation would have on humans, they should have had the observers behind one way glass. If you've ever been truly alone for any length of time, you'll know how good it feels to see a human face, even if you don't get a chance to say hi.
Muppets.
As a psychological experiment this seems a bit pointless. Perhaps if they built in a small but real probability of the whole thing exploding catastrophically or the possibility of the crew being exposed to lethal levels of radiation then they might have a chance of recreating the likely state of mind of real astronauts. As it stands, the biggest danger to the crew is splinters.
Radioactive, exploding splinters.
Actually to me this looks pretty much like the middle-aged-man's refuge, the garden shed. All it needs is a few discarded tools, some plant seeds that won't actually grow and a pile of magazines on disparate subjects and it is pretty much home from home. Possibly the team psychologists are a lot more canny than people give them credit for. Or they are henpecked.
Elsewhere another website asks what can make it more realistic. Unfortunately the comments part of this other site stopped working when someone fiddled with it, so no one can answer but...
Tell them that there has been a small nuclear leak nearby. Unfortunately that means that although they will only receive a low dosage of radiation, nobody can get to test site if there is a medical emergency, and it will take a few months to get it cleaned up enough to rescue them. However on the plus side, it seems that all of the communication and control systems are still working, so the experiment can continue...
Have a random event generator and suitable safe consequences substituted for the lethal ones might improve realism a bit. For example, that at the end of your ordeal there is a small but real chance you won't get paid, or will have to spend a year in a simulated hospital room might tweak the psychology in the right direction.
Looks to me like just another "close quarters isolation" experiment to me.
Why don't they do these at the South Pole where they would REALLY be isolated, cold, and starved for affection instead of being in a glorified sauna knowing that if anything truly bad happened, they would just open the door to the sauna.
It's a sad day when the American fake space program has fallen so far behind the Russian fake space program. If people think we had the technology to fake multiple Moon landings, why couldn't we be the ones televising a fake Mars landing? Using American know-how, we could even do it as a "reality show". Start off with a 150 "astronauts and vote on who to push out the airlock each week. I call upon Obama to authorize whatever it takes for America to fake a Mars landing by 2014.
where one realizes for the umpteenth time that in the US the ability to read is lagging way behind people's nationalism.
It's an European program fake space program, and it'd better get through to you Yanks that there's also the Japanese fake space program getting ready for the big screen, the Chinese fake space program, and the Indian fake space program (easily recognized from the singing and dancing scenes, and the almost-see-through silk spacesuits). The Copenhagen Suborbitals has some way to go still, but they can pocket a lot of sponsor money if they have scantily-clad blonde vixens emerging from the drainpipes they've pretended launching.
I say the Copenhagen Suborbitals and the Indian Fake Space Program co-operate and launch a joint mission.
That way we get scantily clad blonde vixens in near see-through silk spacesuits - nobody will care if they land on Mars or Universal Studios.
Either that or all of the teams play volleyball to determine who gets to fake the landing first.
I'll get my coat...
A human visit to Mars means giving up the search for indigenous life on Mars: "Then the crew will load all their rubbish into the "lander" and shut the door on it: the ESA says that it would then be discarded on a real flight."
With all that human waste and contamination, then yes we will find life on Mars, and by gum, it will look like us (or our bacteria).
Staggers me that we would even consider sending humans to Mars.
I search in my coat pocket for an apparently diminishing supply of common sense.
Yeah it isn't as realistic as the real thing, but it's a good attempt at reproducing the biggest unknown factor of such a mission - the impact of umpteen months of boredom followed by a few days' relative excitement, then another round of boredom : ie can people really cope with it?
I think they deserve one.
Perfect - 8 months left for everyone in the team to have a monkey suit made for the rest of the team. The opportunity passed us by to pretend the world had gone Planet Of The Apes when they got the Chilean miners out. For all that's holy, let's not have this moment pass us by again!
Could be the greatest practical joke since the moon landings and/or Elvis's death! Let's get planning...
Surely, similar conditions would have been experienced by the first Merchant Adventurers such as Columbus and Cabot in their early voyages. I believe the "Matthew" was loaded with sufficient stores for a voyage of at least 6-8mths, although the actual crossing was less than 8 weeks.
I doubt very much they staged simulations before setting off on such an unknown voyage. Just as well Health & Safety wasn't such an issue back then, America and the New Found Land might never have been discovered!!
At sea, they would have had access to fresh air, sunlight and a chance of surviving even if the ship went down. The majority of the crew would have likely spent their life at sea as well, so was hardly a change of scene or routine for them. Claustrophobia doesn't really occur when you've got access to a window that opens, or a deck.
Plenty of people went insane though, but they'd have been chucked in the brig, or overboard.
Presumably you could plant some memories of being trained to go to Mars in the "astronauts" to convince them that it was real, but then one of them might realise he actually had been to Mars and it's all a setup, and he has to get to Mars and kill the bad guy and turn on the atmosphere generators left by an ancient alien civilisation.
Yup.
I'll be watching that tonight then.
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