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Thousands of workers at IT services firm CSC have been given a temporary pay cut and asked to cash in their holidays, as customers hold back on spending. Approximately 6,800 employees at CSC's Americas' Outsourcing group were told by email on January 18 that their pay is being reduced as a "temporary measure" thanks to " …

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  1. Martin Gregorie

    Management participatioin

    I wonder about management and board participation in this cost saving exercise: what, if anything are they giving up?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Stop

      Contracts

      Depends on their contracts. Management have better contracts usually, that's why they are management. If their contracts protect their bonuses then they will get bonuses. Those that have a weaker contractual hand will lose out and those that don't will do well. It's life, people need to get over the media fed "management bashing" culture that has grown over the recent years.

  2. Notas Badoff
    Flame

    Two dollar a day building the Union Pacific

    Of course, that was 150 years ago, so CSC is now willing to remunerate you at **four** dollars a day!

    $0.50 per hour? Sounds like a statement to shareholders of how much they're looking to pay when they move the jobs to Burma or Outer Mongolia.

    So Westerners need to look to their roots, and hope the railroads come back. Gandy-dancing's coming back I hopes!

  3. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    Unprecedented ??

    CSC has been doing this for years....at least the "cash in the holidays" part. Until they have a completely new executive staff they will never get their shit together.....GOOD GRIEF

  4. Gatsby
    WTF?

    Peanuts and monkeys

    If you think this looks unpromising, have a look at the following: -

    http://www.jobsite.co.uk/job/network-architect-937824163

  5. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Unhappy

    Hmmm

    I wonder if the company directors are taking proportional pay cuts.

    Not uckin likely!

  6. GarethJones
    Grenade

    That's Outrageous

    I know what my answer to that would be, and it wouldn't be polite.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Boffin

    The sins of the past now haut you...

    Many large companies outsourced their operations on the promise of savings and the ability to then focus on their core business.

    But then the outsourcers cut corners and went offshore.

    Customers saw this and those that renegotiated their contracts reduced what they were willing to pay citing the use of cheaper labor putting a squeeze on the outsource company. Those that were not happy with their outsourcing results brought the services back in house. An example... Sears booted IBM in favor of CSC, and then booted CSC to bring IT back in house. During this process they squeezed the employees who either had to convert or were cut.

    But I digress.

    The outsourcing firms went in to a downward spiral as they moved more work offshore in an effort to get better margins. As the margins decreased so did the quality. And further in to the spiral.

    So now we've reached a point where things are bottoming out. Those customers who are still outsourcing are going to the cheapest provider which means more cuts for CSC to remain competitive....

    Utter fail by IBM, Accenture, CSC, etc for not providing value to their customers in the first place. I only feel sorry for those who work for CSC... they'll be one of the first to sink.

  8. Aristotles slow and dimwitted horse
    FAIL

    It just doesn't make sense...

    OK, so I'll caveat that by starting with that this is CSC, and common sense isn't something that that company is overly blessed with.

    The only way that CSC is going to get back on it's feet and return to growth is by properly supporting and servicing its client base, and providing first class delivery of that service. That is how they will turn the company around. It is not going to be able to turn itself around if it continues with this ongoing and protracted shafting of the hard working ground troops that have the unfortunate reality of being the face of CSC "on the ground" as a part of that service delivery mechanism.

    But no, what do CSC do... they shaft the very people that they rely upon to deliver those services, to protect the "value" and the executive salaries.

  9. ECig
    WTF?

    I'm Hourly

    My manager told me today that one day would be coming out of this pay week, so they were only going to pay me for 32 hours. I can take an extra day off later in the year. I told him that I am hourly if I am working 40 hours then I expect to be paid 40 hours. If you want to only pay 32 hours, that's fine but I am not going to work more than 32 hours. I couldn't get that through his thick skull! I really think he is so dumb that he doesn't know the difference between hourly and salaried.

    Can someone comment, can CSC force me to work on a day they are not going to pay me?

    1. clio
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      Hourly

      You are getting paid for 40 hours, they are actually reducing everyone's annual salary by the value of 1 weeks (40hr) pay. Surely, they have their bases covered.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Grenade

    Answers...

    This probably tells you all you need to know about the legal position, the document seems to be of a credible source rather than internet conjecture too:

    http://tiny.cc/7j170

    You'll see certain state law issues there, which probably explains why the announcement also excluded certain states...

  11. Henry Wertz 1 Gold badge

    That darned management

    @ECig, I sure wouldn't do it. I mean, the day off they "give" you, they'll probably just expect you to "cash it in' for like $4 later on. I'm with you, if they're short on cash and can only pay for 4 days labor, fine, but they can't then expect you to work 5.

    @Bugs R US: Re:

    "It's life, people need to get over the media fed "management bashing" culture that has grown over the recent years."

    Why should I? I'm sure there's a few good managers around, but general management culture is that they are entitled, so while the people that do the actual work* get pay cuts, cuts in benefits, risk of getting laid off, are expected by places like this to do extra work for free or give up vacation time they've earned, and so on.. the managers are more or less insulated from this, and above a certain point will get bonuses independent of job performance, and a "golden parachute" if they screw up enough to get fired. This deserves being bashed.

    *I do know that managing can also be hard work. But, nevertheless, without the employees they would have nobody to manage.

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