Nooo!
Why do the rich, successful, good-looking men get all the best girls?
Oh, wait...
Doctor Who to marry Doctor Who's daughter
Doctor Who the 10th, David Tennant, is planning to get hitched to his fictional daughter Georgia Moffett, who also happens to be the real daughter of his fictional fifth incarnation. Moffet is the real-life fruit of former Time Lord Peter Davison's loins, and played Who offspring Jenny in 2008's The Doctor's Daughter. Davison …
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Wednesday 5th January 2011 13:53 GMT MinionZero
Error : Stack overflow
I'm stuck in a recursive loop. So Bill Wyman son could also be his father in law. Which would mean Bill Wyman's son could become his own grand father in law. Which would also mean Bill Wyman's wife's father in law is her step son, the grand father in law of her husband?! Which would also mean ... aaargghhh! ... Stack Overflow ... my brain's crashed! :)
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Wednesday 5th January 2011 13:39 GMT Peter Kay
Is marrying yourself legal? :)
Technically the 'Doctor's daughter' is a clone, so he's marrying himself (I know, I know, they do look a bit different). Surely that's not allowed..
I wonder how many other Who marriages there have been - there's already precedence for a 'Time Lord' marriage when Tom Baker (fourth Doctor) briefly married Lalla Ward (Time Lady Romana). Of course, Lalla then went off and married Dawkins, so they're obviously subverting the universe from within..
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Wednesday 5th January 2011 14:50 GMT Pen-y-gors
I think it probably IS legal...
The good old C of E 'Table of Kindred and Affinity' has a very clear list of who you can't marry:
A Man may not marry his
mother
daughter
adopted daughter
father's mother
mother's mother
son's daughter
daughter's daughter
sister
wife's mother
wife's daughter
father's wife
son's wife
father's father's wife
mother's father's wife
wife's father's mother
wife's mother's mother
wife's daughter's daughter
wife's son's daughter
son's son's wife
daughter's son's wife
father's sister
mother's sister
brother's daughter
sister's daughter
But it doesn't actually mention 'himself', so clones seem to be okay then. (although I think they would be rather against the spirit of the thing)
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Wednesday 5th January 2011 14:56 GMT The Indomitable Gall
Which means that...
So let me get this straight: the fifth doctor begat the clone of his tenth incarnation.
But if a clone's a clone, then they are genetically identical, so the fifth doctor must have had relations with someone genetically identical. So far, none of the doctor's regenerations have been female, making the only candidate for mother... the clone herself.
So at some point in the future (or past) there will be (or will have been) a mammoth case where The Doctor divorced The Doctorclone for infidelitous relationship with... The Doctor.
In any divorce, it's the kids that suffer, which in this case is also the wife. I bet she was so desperate for therapy that she will have been inventing the whole profession in a few centuries ago.
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Thursday 6th January 2011 01:17 GMT Only a Sith
Re: Is marrying yourself legal? :)
Sorry, you may well know this but I've seen it on too many forums not to comment! Jenny wasn't a clone - technically or otherwise. A clone is an exact genetic copy. For example, identical twins are, genetically speaking, clones. However, Jenny was made by making two haploid gametes from the Doctor (randomly picking which chromosome of the source pair should go into the gamete, and presumably doing a bit of recombination on the way), then fusing them into a viable diploid cell and finally accelerating its growth into an adult - the process resulting in genetically different offspring. Assuming that Time Lords have the same sex determination mechanism as mammals, the genetics of the story were actually correct - you could make a female starting from a male but you could not make a male starting from a female.
Sorry, couldn't stop myself and I'll shut up now ;-)
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Thursday 6th January 2011 10:05 GMT Allan George Dyer
But...
Assuming mammalian sex-determination genetics, a population of clones would be Male 25%, female 75%. If the cloning is repeated in the following generations, the ratio gets more skewed. This contradicts the observed sex ratio in the colonists in that episode.
There is also probably going to be an issue with detrimental recessives.
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Thursday 6th January 2011 15:18 GMT Matt Siddall
matthotm
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Surely after 1 generation, assuming that they were 50% M and 50% F to begin with, the ratios would be:
62.5% F
25% M
12.5% other (YY)
based on:
Females, XX x XX always gives XX
Males, XY x XY gives XX, XY, XY, YY in equal measures
so all of the Females would give rise to females (50%) plus 25% of the males would give rise to females (25% x 50% = 12.5%) - total 62.5%
50% of the males would give rise to males - total 25% (50% of 50%)
25% of the males would give rise to other (YY chromosome - perhaps the machine selectively omits this possibility?)
One way to keep things in balance is to let the men "clone" themselves four times as often as the women (or three times if YY is prevented).
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Thursday 6th January 2011 10:10 GMT Mostor Astrakan
Isaac Asimov speaks...
Oh, give me a clone
Of my own flesh and bone
With its Y chromosome changed to X.
And after it's grown,
Then my own little clone
Will be of the opposite sex.
Clone, clone of my own,
With its Y chromosome changed to X.
And when I'm alone
With my own little clone
We will both think of nothing but sex.
There's more: http://members.tripod.com/~bardic_circle/aclone.htm
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Wednesday 5th January 2011 14:28 GMT Camilla Smythe
Hmmmm That Will be Scrambled Egg
Dribbling out of my ears. I'll just go cook some bacon..
Elsewhere..
According to reports the couple plan to wed on New Year's Day in 2012. A source said: "They are besotted with each other and can't wait to tie the knot."
HUH???
OK, has the BEEB not got enough funding left to recharge the iTARDIS batteries and let them get on with it? Nothing good will come of this imposed year of celibacy.
Rumpy Pumpy whilst not being 'married' seems most Un-Doctorish to me. Still I suppose if they just keep it to 'besotted' then the 'Guild of Time Lords' will not have a problem.
Bring back Jon Pertwee and the Maggots, bugger that was not intended. I'll just make sure there is a bit of space behind the sofa to go hide.
Kids today. Dr Who? Last I heard Kylie Minogue was part of the scene. Pah, bet they did not dissolve her head with maggot vomit..
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Thursday 6th January 2011 21:35 GMT Urh
Re: Erm...
Are you sure? Do the individual hearts of a Time Lord beat separately or in unison? I seem to have misplaced my encyclopedia of fictional xenobiology. If they did beat in unsion, then there is a case for it being four hearts beating as one, rather than four as two. And that's assuming that the Doctor's own daughter is indeed a "pure-bred" Time Lord. For all we know, the Mother of the Bride at this wedding could very well be Peri, Nyssa or (goodness forbid) Tegan, and that's if you assume that the Doctor didn't use the TARDIS to diddle one of his past (or future) companions. Four hearts beating as one or two? Let's get a handle on how many hearts we're dealing with first.
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