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Samsung is pulling its support for Symbian developers and content ahead of the Windows Phone 7 launch, leaving Nokia even more isolated in supporting the world's most popular smartphone OS. A mail sent out to developers schedules the development lab to close at the end of October, while the the Forum lasts until December 30. …

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  1. JaitcH
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    Samsung making the right decision

    Given the success of the impressive Galaxy range, of which I don't own any, Samsung is far better off supporting fewer OS better than spreading it's resources too thin.

    Now Nokia has to seriously ask itself whether of not to opt for an alternative OS.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Headmaster

    Samsungs strategy..

    Seems to be, they have none.

    They had Symbian, they have Bada, they have Android.

    Out of all of those, Android seems the best and most scalable and free to licence and use. The simple answer is to jetoson everythin else and spread Android love across the range, as clearly is ZTE can make sub £100 and decent Android phones, is there any need for Samsung to have anything else?

    Nokia it seems will fall on their sword rather than give up on Symbian, which is rather sad, as they make excellent hardware, I (and I suspect most people) would love to see Nokia hardware running on Android, but anything else from Nokia? Thanks but No Thanks...

    Someone needs to visit Nokia and teach them the lesson that it's time to swallow the pride.

    1. Lars Silver badge
      Linux

      Samsung strategy

      Nokia delivers about 260000 handsets a day. On the low range it is Symbian and I cannot see anything wrong with that. Besides Symbian has been more or less completely run bye Nokia.

      What else Nokia has to day is Qt and Meego (together with Intel).

      I do not find it surprising that Nokia does not jump on the Android wagon.

      They have all the weapons to do it themselves as they have in the past.

      Eriksson jumped on MS as a saviour but gave up, now they are jumping on Android and that all clearly shows the have given up any hope of running the show or at least pretending they are still

      something to count on.

      1. Robert Forsyth

        267,000 Symbian/smart-phones per day

        267,000 Symbian/smart-phones per day

        1,200,000 Nokia phones per day

        S40 is not on Symbian, being J2ME based app platform (so like Android? without the coffee cup logo)

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      le sigh

      "The simple answer is to jetoson (sic) everythin(sic) else and spread Android love across the range"?

      I'm sure there's a wise saying about not putting all your basques in one exit, or something.

    3. PaulW

      The only issue there...

      As has been said elsewhere though, the issue with going "android only" is that you have to rely on content and UI to differentiate yourself. If you come up with a new hardware feature (hey lets add a hand mixer to the phone - sorry thinking about the rather excellent toad-in-the-hole I made last night), you have to make sure that any additional chipsets etc you add to the device have drivers and UI components that fit into the linux architecture. I know this is the same to some degree if you have your own OS but often times you have your own inhouse phone OS folks who can probably throw something together. If you go andriod only you would, IMO, more likely just have an inhouse reference design and porting team which wouldnt necessarily have the same skill set.

      I think part of the reason for some of the confusion here around phone OS strategy is that some of the phone companies forget that there is a segment out there that just wants a phone thats is, well a phone, and dont need camera, email, games, etc. Thats of course coming from the person who has an iPhone 4.

  3. Andus McCoatover

    Someone needs to visit Nokia and teach them the lesson that it's time to swallow their pride.

    Think a bloke from Canada's going to do just that. I hope.

    Did anyone see a news video of Jorma Ollilla - the bloke who basically took Nokia out of the rubber boots/cable/toilet paper regime, and put Nokia where it , well, in fairness, was?

    http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/09/nokia_ceo_blames_problems_on_complacency_2021363.html

    Without too much imagination, he basically called the previous incumbents a "Cunch of Bunts".

    For a Finn, that's pretty scathing.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @Lars - nokia success based on symbian?!

    > Nokia delivers about 260000 handsets a day. On the low range it is Symbian

    I think the low range is still Series40?

    1. lumpenfolk
      FAIL

      260000 handsets a day

      Leading the way in disposable phones. Next they's be making wellies!

    2. Robert Forsyth

      Nokia 1.2M units per day in 1Q10

      from http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1372013

      smart-phones per day

      267k Symbian

      117k RIM

      93k iPhone OS

  5. zanto

    low range

    is series30 i think. the recently launched nokia 1280 is listed as s30 on the mobile-review website.

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