Caretaker faces jail for putting abuse images on boss's laptop

A school caretaker has been warned he faces a likely jail sentence for putting child sex abuse images on another caretaker's laptop. Neil Weiner, 39, of Dagenham, East London, also sent police a CD containing 177 child sex abuse images he claimed came from his co-worker's computer. Police acted on the information and found …

[Anonymous Coward]

What a dick

Hopefully he'll be put on the sex offenders register for distributing child pornography and ceremoniously ass-raped in jail.

[adnim]

What a dick?

Well, Wiener is his name.

[Anonymous Coward]

Summer holidays?

Yes, what he did was a very bad thing indeed, but "ceremoniously ass-raped in jail". Please do try to grow up a bit.

[Anonymous Coward]

There's a ceremony?

Damn.

[Anonymous Coward]

nah....

sex offenders get on their own cushy wing. you would do harder time for shop lifting than for child abuse in UK prisons. sad but true.

i know when i was in liverpool prison (what a lovely place) i had the same sentence length as rapists and child molesters. and that was for getting nicked with 100 Es on me. what a joke eh?

i say stop sex offenders being treated better than normal cons and stop their segregation. if you do something so bad people want to have a crack at you then you probably deserve it!

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: nah....

Maybe "100 Es" is all they got you for, but from what you've just written there I can tell you're the sort of person that society would be better off without. It's a shame they let you out so soon.

[Anonymous Coward]

Sentencing

How judges decide on sentences: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-10852764

Think a few people harping on about "same sentence as a <insert criminal type here>" need to read and understand this.

I'm not saying that that the sentences are *LONG* enough, I'm just fed up hearing the same old argument punted out by the Sun.

[Cannop]

Sad but true?

"sex offenders get on their own cushy wing. you would do harder time for shop lifting than for child abuse in UK prisons. sad but true."

Not in all cases:

"A child rapist from Whitley is believed to have been stamped to death in jail while serving a life sentence."

Read the whole article here:

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2075785_rapist_killed_in_jail_attack

[LateNightLarry]

Sad but true...

It's not just child abusers who are on the receiving end of extreme corporal punishment from fellow inmates. Or maybe the inmates at San Quentin considered what one new inmate did to be child abuse.

In July, a man (and I use the term loosely) convicted of killing a nine year old girl and maiming her father while driving drunk was himself killed in California's San Quentin state prison. First time DUI offenders do not usually get sent to prison; they serve their time, if any, in the county jail. This particular POS was not a first time offender though.. he had NINE DUI convictions, six of them felonies, over 200 misdemeanor convictions since the age of 17, and a BAC of twice the legal limit. He did not have a driver's license; it had been permanently revoked. He had been in San Quentin just ten days when another inmate, already serving a 60 years to life sentence, stabbed him repeatedly with a prison made knife known as a "bonecrusher". He was notorious for presenting the middle finger salute to the judge and the rest of the courtroom at his trial.

The girl and her father were in a marked crosswalk, and cars had stopped for them when the POS went between two cars at 60 mph on a motorcycle (in a 25 mph zone) and hit them. The father survived, but lost a leg due to his injuries. The girl survived about 24 hours in a trauma hospital, but died of her injuries.

A tall cool one because the POS above has drunk his last one.

[Gav]

Is that you or the caretaker?

Yeah. Cos one crime always gets sorted by another.

[Adam Foxton]

It's re-assuring

that they didn't just take the easy way of arresting the guy with the pics on his Laptop.

Actually, that was in 2007, so the madness hadn't fully kicked in by then...

[Gav]

They did arrest him

But that's exactly what they did. That's why his life was so effectively screwed up.

Fortunately there's still a difference between being arrested and being charged, and yet another difference with being convicted.

[brimful]

Ctrl + Alt + Delete

Lock Computer!!!!

Prevention is really the best defence!

[Anonymous Coward]

Or

Windows Key + L

[Dave 27]

Ctrl alt deceipt

Where in the story does it say he used the unlocked computer? How do you know he didn't take the HDD out and put the images on there from home then put the HDD back in?

[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly

We did that to the boss's computer once at work- took the hard drive out of his laptop over a lunchtime, USB-ed it up to a desktop.

Changed his desktop background image to one saying "Happy Birthday!" and changed his startup sound to us shouting "Happy Birthday!", c/w a small batch file in the startup folder (i.e. starting after the sound) that changed the sound back to normal.

So when he came back in and turned on his Lappy, he got quite a nice surprise.

My point is that it's very very easy to put files into someone else's computer- even in their personal folders and internet history. We could have spread cp so far through his computer that even he would have been convinced he'd downloaded it, but that wouldn't have been as nice a birthday surprise :P.

[CraPo]

Wiener?

Seriously?

[JaitcH]

A double-edged sword, all this vetting

For once, a thorough investigation revealed, however it was only successful because the instigator was technically a cell phone neophyte.

Too frequently Plod gets tunnel vision disbelieving anything other than the original target was guilty. Then they believe everything they get from some database even though another Plod points out deficiencies - see: < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/04/scotland_data_entry_record/ >.

Let's hope the intended victim learns about passwords and the need to keep them confidential.

[Uk_Gadget]

Let's hope the intended victim learns about passwords.....

.....and the need to keep them confidential.

Ha, you can gain access as administrator or any admin account on a windows desktop in a matter of minutes. There is no security here.

[LawLessLessLaw]

muppet

physical access == pwned, always

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/reset-your-forgotten-password-the-easy-way-using-the-ultimate-boot-cd-for-windows/

[Anonymous Coward]

Dick

Guess no-one gave him the news there's now a better chance of fucking someones life up even more royally by dumping a few hundred meg of random bytes into some suspiciously named files, then calling in that anonymous tip ("He closed something called True-Creep when I looked over, and I could have sworn I saw two cartoon characters having sex under 18!")

[Lionel Baden]

priorities !

For a fucking Caretaking Position !!!

Jeez its not like he would be sorted for life & kids going to uni and such like.

If it was for a couple of billion i would understand the motive !!!

also how the fuck does that twat know where to download 235 images of kiddie porn ... and he works in a school !!!!

[Lawrence 7]

Facilities Managers

Facilities Managers can be on quite a decent wedge.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re:What a dick

Of course, you have to wonder how he knew where to find the images in the first place....

Btw I like what you did there.....Weiner.....Dick...

[Adam Williamson 1]

heh

"Of course, you have to wonder how he knew where to find the images in the first place...."

you've clearly never been to 4chan...

[Anonymous Coward]

What now happens to Eddie Thompson?

Now that this man has (falsely) accused of child pornography offences, as I understand it, this will show up on his 'enhanced' CRB check. If we wants to get another job working as a school caretaker, they will be bound by law to request said eCRB check. When they see 'accused of child sex offences', do you think he will be called to interview, or have his application filed under 'B'?

We havn't got rid of this flawed vetting system yet, have we? I wonder what the score stands at so far? Lives ruined:1, crimes prevented: 0 perhaps?

[Anonymous Coward]

What if the bad guy had been *competent*?

Makes you think, doesn't it? I would have thought Europeans would have been more sensitive to witch hunts...

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Sensitive to witch hunts

Naw, we polished off those manuals in the Colonies years ago. Down to a fine science which you Continentals are just now coming round to copying...

Pirate? Only way to live free, baby!

[Daniel Owen]

Muppet deserves prison for stupidity

Lets face it;

has the brains to come up with plan

get pictures on laptop

puts them on CD

sends CD to police

makes "anonymous" call FROM HIS OWN MOBILE PHONE

They should jail him for stupidity as well!

[John Smith 19]

OMG Innocent man claims to Police he is innocent.

They *investigate* his claim

And he is!

The *news* here is that the British police *did* investigate the claim and *were* sharp enough to realise he was innocent, instead of the usual "Well he would say that wouldn't he" routine.

Thumbs up to British police just this once *not* taking things at face value.

[EvilGav 1]

Yes, wonderful . . .

. . . they've now got the right man, he's been convicted, yadda, yadda, yadda.

But it's taken 3 years from the accused originally being arrested, having his name (no doubt) splashed across the papers as a paedo, before finally being vindicated.

This is, once again, the problem with the media as jury - where are the repurcussions for newspapers that yelled "paedo in your school" or some such ? None. Freedom of the press, public interest etc etc trump any and all opinions here.

The man convicted today sought to destroy the accuseds reputation, but he couldn't have done it without the willful involvement of the media, who were willing to besmirch someone based on "arrested on suspicion of . . . "

One man has gone to jail, when can we put Murdoch et al in the dock ?

[slim mcslim]

Think of the laptops...

When did school caretakers start getting laptops ?

[Sarah Bee]

Re: Think of the laptops...

That's the real issue here.

[Sergie Kaponitovicz]

Who said it was supplied by the employer?

When they went to PC World and paid for one out of their own pocket maybe?

[John Savard]

Corrective Measures

Obviously, the government will have to do more to fully compensate the man who was wrongly accused for the harm that came to him.

Just because the original charges brought against him involved no negligence on the part of the police should make no difference; strict liability needs to be the rule, to ensure that the innocent are fully protected from harm brought against them. Of course, the innocent taxpayer should also be protected as far as possible by trying to recover as much as possible from the real culprit.

Also, when an accusation is thoroughly disproved, so that we know for a fact that a person is innocent of what they may have been charged with, the arrest record should not be accessible through any kind of criminal records check, however advanced, because in such a case it is genuinely irrelevant.

[Will Godfrey]

And so it begins.

Frankly I'm surprised it's taken this long.

Expect, very many more similar cases. Angry neighbours, jilted girl/boy friends, redundant workers. The list is endless. And having seen an apparently failed attempt (still badly damaged the innocent guy though) how many jealous schemers will think they now know the pitfalls and can do a 'proper' job on some unsuspecting innocent?

[Anonymous Coward]

Worse than that

Even worse, how many DO know the pitfalls and can do a proper job of planting evidence?

[Chris Donald]

Hope the arsehole gets a very long sentence

There is a case here for getting rid of the public right to know names until a charge is proven. If we could shed that bit of unfair nonsense, then it would make it harder to fuck up people's lives with false allegations.

I never understood why everyone has to know immediately when some accusation is thrown at someone. Surely the public only have a right to know when such a thing is proven.

[Mike Flex]

Re: Re: Think of the laptops...

> That's the real issue here.

Well, this is an IT news site.