Isnt this where the Clangers and Soup Dragon have been living for decades?
Space boffins believe they may be on the verge of discovering a vast, hidden network of tunnels beneath the surface of the Moon. Pit crater in the Mare Tranquillitatis. Credit: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University Collapsed pit-crater shaft leading down to a sub-selenean tunnel? The tunnels aren't thought to be the work of …
Oh, this is too much. I can no longer sit idly by while people perpetuate this myth that the Clangers live on the Moon.
Listen to Postgate's opening remarks to practically any episode (DVD available from all good online retailers) and it is quite clear that the Clangers' planet is far away, hanging amidst the infinite void, silent and serene, all alone in the inky blackness of space.
So pack it in, do you hear? End this foolishness! There are NO CLANGERS ON THE MOON.
By gum. Is it Friday already?
//So pack it in, do you hear? End this foolishness! There are NO CLANGERS ON THE MOON//
But it was well documented that they had invented space travel, it's quite possible that Clangers have been visiting for some time, and the Moon is a similar scape to the Clangers planet so it would make sense they preferred the Moon to earth.
You cannot prove there are no Clangers on the Moon therefore there must be some.
'When the lava cools and solidifies, there is often an open space left above its surface, forming a tunnel.'
The surface of the lava cools rapidly and solidifies to form the hard surface, but the conductivity of basalt is so low the lava in the middle of the flow continues to remain liquid. The molten lava flows downhill under gravity and reappears near the toe of the flow advancing it somewhat. Eventually the supply of new lava from the vent ceases, the remaining lava in the tube drains downhill and you're left with a tube. If you go to Hawaii or Iceland you can walk along some lava tubes and they are very spooky places.
Similar tubes have also recently been spotted on Mars.
On a selenological note - if they're big enough they might make a good place to build a lunar base as the overlying rock will provide some insulation from heat, cold and any meteorites whizzing around.
Since they're probably reasonably gas-tight, already. The lava can only flow out because there is something to take it's place. That something, usually, being gas. Anything that can hold gas long enough for molten rock to solidify on a nearly airless world is worth investigating.
Why would something need to take the lava's place, for it to flow out? All it needs is somewhere to flow to. It is not like a pipette with your finger over the end, where the atmospheric pressure holds the water in place, there is no atmosphere there.
However, they do sound like an excellent place for a moon base, just choose your length of tunnel, nicely sealed with basalt, and fit a door at each end.
Oh wait.... that would involve astronauts actually GOING to the Moon and landing - something which NASA can't allow because that would make these people the first to ever land on the Moon, which would ruin their lunar landing fakery
FAIL (because they never went in the first place!!) *puts on tin-foil hat*
Don't you think if "they" were capable of faking a moon landing to such an extent then "they" would be able to also lie about the newer, real astronauts not being the first?
FAIL because nutjob conspiracy theorists never let logic get in the way of a good argument with a devil's advocate.
if the Soviet Union did not denounce the 'fakery' of the moonlanding, when they were the most eager to proof that the landing was fake, then there is not conspiracy to talk about.
The moon-landing was an USA PR campaign again the Soviets.
The Soviet with 3 bloody radio telescope can pinpoint (basic telemetry) if the transmissions were from a localization at the lunar surface( and for sure they did check and recheck).
The soviet didn't deny the Apollo success.
either the moon landing happened or the whole world is rule by a single group entity that staged the Cold War.Do you believe that?
well wilst they are their with robots, i presume that they have some sort of video feedback. they can go video the flag that they place on the moon and prove that the moon landing video wasnt a fake? if they dont video it i will forever think it was a fake landing :D
This is obviously just the first step in a Lunar-Crab-People invasion. First they have opened the roof on their lunar-crab-lair to reveal their network of lunar-crab-tunnels, the next step is surely to launch lunar-crab-missiles at earth.
While they bombard Earth from the lunar surface (or more accurately, just under the lunar surface), the lunar-crab-people's Earth-bound brethren, The Crab-People, will begin their conquest by sending in the elite crab-stormtroopers.
Our days are numbered.
Failing that, no doubt this is just the bad-guy from You Only Live Twice with yet another volcano with a sliding roof-door.
You're thinking of the 1960's movie with Lionel Jeffries and Edward Judd. That has a human lunar landing set of bookends. I've never read the book so what happens there is (I suspect) *completely* different (I'll guess the party get back to the sphere and escape to Earth but live with knowledge of the potential arrival of the Moon people if they ever manage to reverse engineer Cavorite.
Replying to Samuel Walker's post above:
There is plenty of evidence of ancient lava activity on the moon right in front of your
face (okay, a good lens set helps). THey are called mares, ancient lava flows.
Those huge bloched areas . Can't miss em.
So, ye olde moon had plenty of ancient lava activity.
So, the aliens came in later and made use of these tubes. That much is obvious.
If only Art Bell was still alive and broadcasting. Such a lost opportunity.
"Let's get drunk and make shit up".
Why not send up some Spirit / Opportunity style roving robots, maybe ten of them, up to the moon, then charge premium rate RC moon buggy action to the semi-rich or major moon afficionados to drive the things around the moonian surface with live video feed for an hour or so?
According to the intarnets, there will likely be a 2.6 second (or so) delay lag before you see the results of your controls over the robots, as opposed to the hours for the martian rovers. Not too shabby.
...might raise enuff fundage for a man-moon trip without Obamas lack of vision being a factor, whilst at the same time raising interest in the place. Could even arrange excursions to overhang and observe these weird lava pits too.
one of them caves that turn out not to be a cave, but rather some huge monster with giant teeth that is basically some kind of giant space-based ambush-predator and once you have flown your spaceship into the cave, will suddenly show it's true colour and attempt to gobble up said spaceship, and you'll have to really get a move on in order to avoid said gobbling, it will suddenly aquire a long flexible neck and even attempt to snatch the spaceship from the sky, and you'll be lucky to escape. It's not one of them, is it?
...so we can get a nice long-term habitat there for tritium mining and such. Launching bulk cargo from the moon would be a piece of cake for a Gauss-gun launcher.
However, if you REALLY want to get into large-scale raping of the Solar System's wealth, you need to go to Mars. But how do you get the bulk cargo off? Easy. Same way as on the moon: a Gauss-gun located in the caldera of Olympus Mons, which is damn near in space anyhow. Just set up an automated track up the side of the volcano from the relatively benign lowlands, and Bob's your uncle. (Insofar as that expression can be used at all for large-scale operations on another planet, natch!)
Biggest lava tubes on Earth are at Wondarra in north queensland, Oz. Not air or water tight and 10 meters across. One is estimated to run for 100KM. Even got basalt stagmites in them in one spot.
Daily tours thru them. Not creepy, just odd, especially where one runs over an old waterfall site. Simlilar lava tube candidates have also been seen on Mons Olympus., Mars. Might be useful location for protected base, if there was any reason to go into a gravity well once one had finally escaped the Earths.
Read Pournelles "I'm in a Hole" for illustration of the concept.
Ah, the old hoax comes out again, that the moon landings were faked.
Of course they were, because THE MOON is a HOAX!
FACT: Before 1932 there are no real photos of the Moon - it didn't exist!
FACT: The "moon" was nailed to the Holy Sky Dome by koka-kola & D1sn3y in the mid-40's to prolong WW2.
FACT: You can hide the moon with your thumb, proving that it is only about the size of a 5p piece, meaning you couldn't possibly land there.
FACT: Tides are caused by God interacting with fish.
FACT: Eclipses are caused by flocks of birds, not the moon.
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