the best description I can find of this person is;-
Oxygen thief.
Daily Mail reader out-tw*ts the Tw*t-O-Tron
Fans of the Twat-O-Tron will be delighted and disturbed in equal measure to learn that one Daily Mail commenter has managed to surpass the hideous turdspurts which emanate from Middle England's automated indignation generator. It's inevitable that any story regarding the murderers of James Bulger will arouse strong feelings, …
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Friday 12th March 2010 09:53 GMT Anonymous Coward
Gets worse
If you think Mail comments are bad, you should flick through the letters page to the Daily Express. It's hair-raising stuff, sort of a Völkischer Beobachter for retards with the likes of Richard Madeley and Anne Widdecombe standing in for the Goebbels family - only without the easy going charm.
The Mail is a horrible newspaper but it is brilliantly put together to target its audience with the sort of precision the US Air Force can only dream of. The Express is just a sordid pile of hatred and inadequacies with Alan Titchmarsh on the front.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 12:20 GMT Anonymous Coward
hang on a minute ...
Some of us read (okay skim) the Daily Mail for its comedy value and as a touchstone for the angst ridden middle-class zeitgeist (tm).
It is also compulsory to read the best / most right-wing articles out to the wife in an Alan Partridge style.
Lynne - "Who's upset you this time Alan?"
Alan - "People. I just hate the general public."
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 11:04 GMT Anonymous Coward
why no report stupidity button
I realy do wonder why there aint a report stupidity button. If we look at the post and the posters name and location it wouldn't be a stretch of imagination to conclude this is a cultural response perhaps. Kind of response that chops of shop lifter hands.
Bottom line what those two did was wrong on a level most cant deal with, yet they were children and if you substract the publicity from the equation, then there punishment is just. If I tech a child badly and set bad examples to the effect that they do something like these two would I be guilty or would they, or would we both be guilty and to what level of guilt. Given how this whole affair has panned out it is not hard to conclude that these two were not only damaged before they commited the crime but have become more damaged as a result of the crime and all the publicity.
What realy upsets the monther of the lost child, the facts or how there reported and there frequency. News just loves to live of peoples sorrows and whilst being seen to hand sugar out often rubs salt in instead.
Maybe the small fact that the crime was commited by children who are now adults may of been overlooked by the poster, we dont know but we sure are quick to judge like a rabble.
But when you have a society designed to protect the stupid from there own shortcommings yet no measures to protect the non stupid from the stupid then, what can you expect.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 15:23 GMT Anonymous Coward
People are far more cautious when their own life is at stake.
Sure, why bring back hanging? After all the murder rate may have been in decline for 100 years before the abolition, standing at just 6.2 (it's lowest ever!) murders per million in 1960, and risen astronomically since the death penalty was abolished, in 2000 it was 18.3, (2007 it was 20.4) but I am sure that the two issues are unrelated.
Far better to pretend everyone is as nice as we are, and only really need a little encouragement to join us in our wonderful Utopia, rather than face the reality that the not so 'nice' people need a big stick to keep them in check.
Sometimes 'nice' people need protecting from their own naivety, their own intellectual shortfalls and the emotive pleas from not so nice people.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 23:29 GMT Paul 4
Piracy
"and risen astronomically since the death penalty was abolished, in 2000"
Or was the last capital crime high treason? Possibly both. FYI it was 1998, not 2000.
What the hell dose that have to do with murder rates?
Also if you bother to go to date the 2009 murder rates were at their lowest in 20 years.
Talk about picking your statistics.
Oddly enough "The Troubles" match the rise and fall well.
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Thursday 11th March 2010 16:56 GMT Anonymous Coward
Just to Clarify...
I actually meant: 'and has risen astronomically since the death penalty was abolished. In 2000 it was 18.3...' Not that it was abolished in 2000.
A moratorium on the death penalty was passed in 1965 and that was effectively the abolition (technically it was 1969 for all offences but high treason as you said) and 1965 is when the murder rate rose for the first time in 100 years, and at quite a rate.
The troubles started later and finished earlier, the murder rate rose before the troubles started and continued to rise for a decade after.
What does it have to do with it? People are less inclined to carry knives, guns, and add those extra few stamps on a victims head if they thought that they could swing for it. There is a world of different between 25 years (effectively 10) and death.
As for the murder rate effectively halving within one year, a statistical anomaly (generally it is five yearly murder rates) the Government massaging the stats (wouldn't be the first time) or just a great year for the NHS. Let's be honest, medicine has improved greatly since the 60s, there should be far, far less murders. Even taking into account the '20 year low', it is still double what it was in 1960 and higher than at any time before Victoria came to the throne.
Would Venables have killed Bulger if the death penalty hadn't been abolished? Hard to say, but I do know that had Venables been hanged at 18, it would have saved at least one innocent person from abuse.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 11:48 GMT Neil Greatorex
@Daniel 1
"wil, be tracked down"
Easy-peasy, took me 45 seconds using pipl. Strangely (or not) the last link was to:
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2010/mar/08/jon-venables-comment-michael-white)
So it seems his comment has already reached a wider audience than Daily Wail or El Reg readers.
Wait for /. :-(
I suspect that, far from having his own reality TV show, he'll have to go into hiding for a time.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 13:01 GMT CD001
or maybe
The "Fascist bastards" just spotted "Pritesh Hathalia from Leicester" and hit downvote without reading the post...
One would hope that the comment was meant to be ironic and intended to show up the stupidity of the great British public - 119 downvotes would show quite clearly that at least 119 people didn't get it. I would like to think that - however I don't have that much faith in humanity.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 12:58 GMT Anonymous Coward
Murderers
It is a strange thing that so much of society, of which the Daily Mail provides a condensed version, believes that children who murder children are somehow worse than adults who do it.
It is is obviously bad whoever does it, but I cannot get my head round why we should condemn children who commit this crime more than adults. Surely it should be the other way around?
The idea of publishing the current details of Venables appearance and name is appalling. Let's hope Nu Labour's desperation to be liked by somebody, *anybody*, does not see them submitting to this illogical mob.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 13:00 GMT James 5
It's a joke....
.. there's another comment from Pritesh Hathalia that says:
"since coming to your country I have seen this again and again, the Britsh people are weak innit and so is their justice system. I'n my country this boy would be lynched by the local residents from a peepil tree. You people could learn alot from a more civilised nation like India."
Pritesh Hathalia, Leicester, 8/3/2010 11:51
I wonder what "Pritesh Hathalia" translates as ?
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 13:59 GMT Throatwobbler Mangrove
I don't speak Hindi...
...or any other South Asian language, but my guess is "Pritesh Hathalia" translates as "cognitive dissonance", as in what happens in the Daily Wail reader's mind when reading that comment: "hate foreigners - but also must whine about namby pamby punishments - but can't agree with Asians - but want to string people up - but can't stand immigrants - cannot reconcile contradictory desires oh my God I can't - "
<head asplodes>
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 13:01 GMT CynicalOptimist
Sharia Law.. it's too good for em'
I like how the Mail is simultaneously pro harsh punishments for criminals (death penalty, long custodial sentences, life-means-life etc) while being anti Sharia law. If the Mail was consistent, it would launch a campaign to have Sharia law introduced in Britain, instead of writing scare-mongering articles about it. But then if the Mail was consistent, rational or logical about anything it would have fewer readers than the Independent.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 13:04 GMT John Lilburne
Hang the newspaper editors and proprietors
Why do we HAVE to know what he did or is suspected to HAVE done.
He's behind bars the police are investigating, they'll bring him to court in due course if he has in fact done anything wrong.
Why the press feel its incumbent upon them to feed salacious stories to there peadophile readers is beyond me. Lock them all up.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 14:01 GMT Anonymous Coward
At the risk of sounding unsympathetic,...
why doesn't James Bulgers mother just shut up and go away already? Yes, it was terrible, Yes those responsible were / are vermin, Yes, it was emotive and stressfull at the time, but she has the whole victim / justice thing done and dusted 15 yrs ago, now she is in danger of becoming a celebrity victim.
Unless Venables has specifically threatened her or her family, she should garner support from her friends and family through this obviously stressful time, rather than posturing and gobbing off on morning TV about her supposed "right to know".
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 15:44 GMT Steven Jones
Representative?
I'm fascinated by just how many people take one comment by one person as somehow indicative of the readership of an entire paper or, for that matter, the views of a large part of society. The comment in question appears to be the second worst rated one and there are many far more reasoned views on the comment list than this one.
It might also come as some suprise to many that "conservative" social views are hardly confined to hwat is deemed to be core Daily Mai readership.
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 19:53 GMT cosmogoblin
Appalling comments
Quite frankly, I'm appalled by many of the comments on this article.
Intelligent people should know better, and I find these ideas increasingly worrying. Are we heading back to the Middle Ages, for crying out loud?
English is governed by common usage, and during the 20th century, "hung" and "hanged" have both become acceptable.
Am I the only person on the Internet with an ounce of common sense?
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Tuesday 9th March 2010 23:29 GMT pctechxp
missing the point
Sure you can all lay into a commentard reading the daily mail (I don't read it by the way)
But the real issue here is why Venables and Thompson were walking the streets.
I am in favour of the death penalty for murder and 25 years for domestic violence whether it be man or woman
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Wednesday 10th March 2010 01:21 GMT Sonny Jim
I've just found a way to make the Daily mail comment tolerable
It's simple, just click on "Worst Rated" and voila! Some kind of sense shines through:
"Ah, I draw those kind of pictures all the time, and I'm 41 year of age!
"I think any newspaper that reveals his identity should be fined double the cost of him having to have another. Nothing is to be gained by it. If he due in court for another crime then he should be judged on that crime and if found guilty then his past IE a life sentance in private should be taken inro account. I would rather the papers get back to the important news on how this country is going to deal with a forthcoming election." <- This got voted DOWN 130 times
"The damage done by a dysfunctional home is immense and varied, but it's so much easier to focus on how Venables and Thomspon failed Jamie Bulger rather than how society failed Venables and Thompson isn't it...."
And another gem from Pritesh Hathalia, although I smell a wind up...
"since coming to your country I have seen this again and again, the Britsh people are weak innit and so is their justice system. I'n my country this boy would be lynched by the local residents from a peepil tree. You people could learn alot from a more civilised nation like India."
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