Wow, just wow
That is some serious spliff!!!
A Swedish pothead whose girlfriend turned into a dophin after he toked on a particularly explosive spliff asked cops to test his hash for traces of LSD, The Local reports. The concerned 26-year-old from Eslöv, northeast of Malmö, considered the matter so serious that he ignored the fact that marijuana is illegal in Sweden and …
...who were not all there to begin with. Like there are plenty of thugs who get drunk but were beating up other kids in the playground and abusing minorities years before they became pissheads. Or put it another way, like any recreational intoxicant its adherrants are a microcosm of society.
To all the KNOW-IT-ALLS who say because LSD is degraded by heat it cannot be smoked:
Think a bit more.
NICOTINE is degraded by heat at a similar temperature. People get a hit from a cigarette, which is burning.
Like Nicotine, LSD is also active in EXTREMELY small doses.
Not all the drug content magically raises to this temperature in 0.0000000000000001 seconds at the flame-front of a joint.
IT IS POSSIBLE.
Back in my younger days I DID THE EXPERIMENT AND IT DOES WORK (ie having weed without and with the addition of LSD, same weed, different effect).
That said, the effect was much reduced, and going by Occam's Razor the likeliest reasons for this event were:
A) unusually strong/different spectra of cannabinoids hash
B) the guy in question was having a flip-out moment because his mind was broken.
I'm plugging for B) because he's obviously a total idiot to take the matter to the cops without being prepared to Out his Source.
That's my tuppence.
PS: Drugs are bad... MMKay?
PPS: OMFGWTFUUUUUU has this to do with IT again? Fun story, but.... WTF?
It's not likely to be salvia either as that tends to produce hallucinations based around geometric shapes or the loss/gaining of new dimensions, certainly not anything coherent like the TV talking to him or his girlfriend turning into an aquatic mammal. My guess would be ketamine as it could easily be used to cover the weed without it being too obvious. Why you would do it though is beyond me and I think he should be grassing his dealer up if this is the case, substances that lower your heart rate can be extremely lethal when mixed with horse tranquilisers.
AC - Obvious reasons.
...can't have been LSD, because smoking LSD has no effect, the active chemicals are destroyed by heat (they're sensitive enough to be destroyed by the oils on your skin, don't stand a chance in a joint, particularly if it's hash)
more likely it was PCP or ket or something along those lines (although wouldn't think that was that likely in hash either), matey obviously doesn't know what he's talking about
Actually you would be surprised at the amount of 'high quality' american television that we scandinavians imported en-masse in the 80's and 90's... I still have recurring nightmares of 'step by step' and 'the bold and the beautiful'.
Didn't help that Sasha Mitchell then suddenly showed up in Kickboxer 2... that was a bit of an odd choice :/
To the brits among us; if you don't have any idea what I'm on about just count yourself lucky and move on. nothing to see here.
... although it doesn't happen very often.
It depends a bit on the particular type of cannabis - the active component is not a single substance but a class of similar substances (known as cannabinols) each with different psychoactive properties - and whether one smokes it or eats it - cannabinols are transformed by heat.
Cross-sensory hallucinations - e.g. you "see" sounds - have been experienced on occasion by yours truly.
On the other hand, the guy himself may have been borderline psychotic, and his use of cannabis may have triggered a psychotic episode.
AC because in the current political climate a bit of paranoia is merely prudent.
Bah, this guy is an idiot, LSD breaks down in light, heat and oxygen at levels that you would normally find in your home (ambient room temperature, etc). So smoking it in a spliff is going to kill it before it even reaches your body.
Hence the whole keeping it in glass/airtight container in your freezer thing.
LSD degrades at relativly low temperatures. Whatever it is, it's not LSD.
Friends of mine who still blaze have recently reported a particular kind of weed, the effects of which can only described as "terrifyingly psychedelic", I had suspected it to be the result of a lesser known synthetic cannabinoid and poor dosing...
This points out the dangers of illegal feelgood stuff.
When Booze was illegal, it was not uncommon to find various contaminants in your bootleg. Much of the worlds cannabis supplyv is pretty umpure, even in the newly legalized pot states, one might find buds with rockwool or fertilizer salts in addition to the desired components.
I'll stick to beer, thanks, though 211 tastes like it was brewed in an old car radiator.
....to go to the rozzers and complain about my stash!!
"Yes sir, how can be help you?"
"um, dood, I want this dope testing, it like totally made we throw a whitey..and I can chong big time...but I took a toke of this and the killer fog started freaking me out.....there's something wrong with this gear....... and" **SLAP**SLAP**SLAP**
"now leave before I arrest you for being stupid enough to bring that baggie in here and admitting you're such a lightweight....."
User of recreational intoxicants can never be sure of the identity, potency, or purity of the stuff they enjoy.
It's really time to get governments out of the business of enforcing 2¢ morality, and start treating recreational intoxicants _of_all_types_ (no exceptions) on a par with alcohol: something you buy at the corner store (or at least at the government intoxicant store) and which is labeled as to its strength.
Throwing a party? Why can't you toddle down to "the store" and pick up a dozen one-use syringes preloaded with a stated quantity of heroin for those of your guests who enjoy it? "I'll have a dozen of the 10 microgram ones, please."
I'd go so far as to give bona fide addicts their fix without charge. Think of the consequences: no sad whores peddling their asses to pay for their next fix; no petty thefts and break-ins by addicts; the cash flow to organized crime from drugs would be cut off; and the peasants of Afghanistan and the Andes could grow their valuable crops without fear of being fucked over by the Forces of Good.
O Holy Moderatrix, I have tried to figure out an IT angle and I have failed. Forgive me my sin!
actually the war on drugs started as the war on Chinese opium. Until the U.S. signed a treaty to try and stop the opium trade all U.S. drug laws were continually overturned by the courts. The courts have since ruled that treaties have the force of the Constitution.
Cable T.V. is good for some things.
The only reason there is still a 'War on Drugs' is that a huge number of jobs depends on it. If we took the totally sensible step of making illegal drugs legal, and because they can then be quality controlled and taxed properly, you'd take away a lot of reasons why the world can be such a shithole for so many people.
Look what keeping drugs illegal has done for Columbia and Mexico. The 'War on Drugs' has turned them into war zones, effectively civil war zones with all that entails in conflicts between neighbours, friends and families.
Keeping drugs illegal has allowed the parasites to keep users controlled by fear of the law, and most crime is drug-related nowadays. Take away the illegality and you remove the stream of income to the people who want the system to continue - the criminals and the people who need criminals to exist in order to justify their own jobs.
Having the quality control means fewer people will suffer from bad reactions to drugs cut with inappropriate substances, and I believe, though I could be wrong, that using high quality drugs of known strength can make it easier to not get addicted, or easier to get off if you do. Would you rather buy your heart pills from a chemist or a street trader?
Tax it properly and fairly and you'll have more than enough money to run the system and deal with the inevitable few who can't handle it, rather than overload the NHS with drink and drug related illnesses. This is just about the only reason I would like some sort of identity card or drugs license. Present it at your local chemist to obtain your drugs (including tobacco), and the health authorities would have some idea at least of how much is being used in the local area, and take appropriate measures.
It's a big and touchy subject, and few politicians have the balls to recommend it, but I can't see any way out of the current impasse which is only tolerated because it's mainly brown, black or yellow people getting killed in large numbers in countries far, far away.
That would be those in the pubs then?
And try and read up on why that man was sacked - he had put cannabis as being less addictive than booze and that won't do as HM. Gov needd all those alcohol addicts.
You'd have thought that in these days of the internet folks would have stopped peddling the same crap about drugs and managed to remember that there are legal drugs that are far more addictive and harmful than weed.
What is interesting is that people who break the law for recreation are not uncommon. Off-course betting used to be illegal but widely practised. Speeding is illegal but widely practised. So far, most politicians have chosen to rank recreational drug use as a danger to the public that should be policed and suppressed. They took the opposite view about gambling, maybe because they could tax it.
The sooner that 'coffee shops' start up in high streets around the world the better.
Disclaimer - beer excepted, never have, never wanted to.
If I smoked something that made me go to the police and tell them that I've been a pothead for ten years, I'd count mild hallucinations among the less disturbing side effects. So you're right, that isn't LSD. It is a field test of the first genuinely working truth serum in the world, staged by [insert your favourite world-domination-aspiring organisation here].
You would never mix something with hash, thats just stupid.
Hash is a premium marijuana product. The only reason you would
add something to it would be 1) it's not hash, 2) You made crap hash and
now your trying to fix your error, rather than throw the crap out.
As other's have said, no it can't be LSD because you can' t smoke LSD.
It would have been destroyed by the heat of smoking.
If I was to guess, it could have been ketamine or PCP...
but PCP is a rare drug these days. I don't think it would have been Salvia
as it has a bad taste and the heat required to smoke the active compounds is
higher then the heat level you enjoy pot at.
Oh ya, never talk to the cop's about a drug deal gone bad..
zbeast, lover of great drugs from all over the world.
AC at 16:16
"I'd go so far as to give bona fide addicts their fix without charge"
NO NO and NO again.
I have more than enough of my hard earned pay taken off me already without some weak-willed useless smackhead legally dipping into my wallet to prolong his or her pointless existence. I have no sympathy whatsoever, they're all volounteers. They could try growing a spine and just stop taking the stuff.
What is the point of drug addicts?
What use are they?
They are really useful for burgling the houses of selfish bigots, thus raising crime, so that selfish bigots can mount a moral crusade and demand more repression.
Get over yourself, you dummy. All that crime costs a hell of a lot more than what was being suggested. Try thinking instead of knee-jerking...
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