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Pioneer may be a well established name on the Blu-ray spinning circuit by now, but the company's deal with Sharp last year to pool their BD resources means that the BDP-320 is likely to be one of the last pure Pioneer Blu-ray players off the production line. Pioneer BDP-320 End of an era: Pioneer's BDP-320 The BDP-320 sits …

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  1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

    No kidding?

    1m 10sec just to load a disc??? And all for the pleasure of pleasing some DRM w***er who sits on his hands and collect royalties for the "intellectual property" which nobody wants?

    Oh, yes, and the player that can be bricked every time you insert a new disc and the discs that can be coastered while you get a "firmware upgrade"?

    Makes me think all BD users are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome. You know, in love with their torturers and so on...

  2. david bates
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    This is why I won't be doing Blueray...

    Over a minute to start up...? What is it with Bluray?

    My car does'nt take a minute to start - hell, my computer rarely takes a minute to start. I can have my TV, XBOX/XBMC, stereo combo on, connected to the server and ready to run in less than a minute.

    If an appliance takes that long its BROKEN.

  3. nichomach
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    Buttons...

    "especially since the buttons are black, on a black background. How did that idea get off the design shelf?"

    Hey, it worked for Disaster Area!

    "The reason I'm having so much trouble flying this ship is because it's black. The walls are black, the floor is black, the console is black, the switches are black, the labels are little black letters printed on a black background, and when you press anything, a black light lights up in black to tell you you've done it.' Ford Prefect - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  4. Andy Tunnah
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    75% seems a bit generous

    when buying an entertainment system like this, i rarely look at the tech specs and all the extra filters etc. as i've found once its setup and running i'm always perfectly happy with the picture (after all, i'm not comparing it to better or worse models so i don't really have a yard stick)

    what i do look at is the stuff i'm gonna have to live with day after day, and this unit seems to lack those basic functions - backlit remote, in-film menu access, pre-HMDI support, returning to where you last were in a movie, and what i personally find the most infuriating of all, a long boot up time

    maybe need 2 diff ratings, one for its technical prowess and one for its basic user satisfaction

  5. John 62

    Java

    Whether Java is the problem or not, I wonder how much damage the brand is getting from all these players that take over 1 minute to boot. I think PCs will soon be able to boot and stream HD netflix video faster than you can load the BD.

    I'd probably put up with the hassle if I used a PS3 as my BD player, even though it has an ultrafast CPU, but in my naivete I still expect dedicated units to be faster than general purpose ones. Especially when there's so little price difference.

  6. Anonymous Coward
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    this old chestnut

    Don't really want to say this but the blundering public and manufacturers got it wrong.

    Bluray is spluttering along with very few releases because in these depressed times nobody wants to invest in the plant to produce the discs in the sort of numbers that DVD continues to enjoy.

    Hang on a minute I think HDDVD could have been made in existing plant ..

    All this was shouted down by the Bluray fanboy crowd and various other useful idiots.

    End result nobody feels inclined to waste money releasing older titles on bluray so the selection after the latest blockbusters is really poor.

    Well done.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    1m to boot up?

    My PS3 takes about 15 secs from inserting the disc to the movie playing... It's also less expensive, better quality and more featured...

    Why would anyonw waste their cash on sub-standard standalones?

    1. Bassey

      Re: PS3

      Because, despite all it's technical prowess and (at last) value for money, the PS3 STILL looks like the appallingly disfigured offspring of a betamax VCR and a breadbin and, whilst I'd love to have one under the telly, I'd need to stick a very large paper bag over it to avoid being sick every time I saw it. And there is NO WAY the wife would allow one in the living room.

      Anyway, I got lucky. My DVD player died and someone at work was getting rid of his Sony BDS350 for £60. I don't own a single Blu Ray disc but I've rented a few and some of them looked stunning. In the meantime it makes an excellent upscaler for my existing DVDs and its fairly future proof - well, unless home 3D actually takes off - in which case I'll be eating humble pie for the next decade in any case.

      1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

        @Bassey

        "Future proof" - I just love it!

        How can anyone call something that can be disabled at the whim of the manufacturer (without you having any slightest possibility of stopping it) "future proof"?

        1. Bassey

          Re: Future Proof

          You're going to have to explain that one to me Vlad. How are Sony going to disable my Blu Ray player without breaking and entering my house?

          1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

            Simples

            Any BD disc may contain Content Revocation List and Host Revocation List. The former disables individual discs, the latter - individual devices.

            Any licensed BD device must read and honour these lists. That means that any new disc you "buy"* may contain data that disables (revokes certification) of either your player or/and any BD disc that you may have "bought" in the past.

            Same thing can happen during any internet connectivity session for your player through system renewability messaging. This is all part of AACS specs and AACS is mandatory for BD.

            You see, they don't need to break and enter - you have already given them the key and waived your rights to complain by bringing their device into your home.

            *) I use quotation marks because in my books anything you pay for that may be taken away any time by the vendor in his sole discretion cannot be described as *bought*.

  8. Citizen Kaned

    ps3 is not a good br player...

    colours are pretty poor and motion is not good either. thats why im mulling one of these over. it would be the sony 760 but its silver and my whole cinema is back (my god that sounds so anal)

    dont get me wrong, my ps3 has played many br movies but ive never been that happy with it (looks noticably worse than bbc hd channel for instance). its like the ps2 could do dvd but compared to any dedicated dvd player it was very poor. plus they are very noisy - which kind of ruins having expensive speakers.

    im a bit miffed that it cant play music from my usb drive though, so might look elsewhere. the sony 770 is out soon so that might be the way to go.

    for audiophiles like me (i didnt spend £4g on a home cinema for nothing) the increased audio alone is worth the extra cash. but if you dont have a hdmi amp then BR is a bit of a waste, esp since a few br disks arent that good quality in HD (grainy filmstock) and some dont have hd audio. plus few few films are in 7.1 truehd etc. but films like ironman and the new batmans are simply superb in HD. on a decent tv the difference between br and dvd is like dvd to vhs (and yes, i had a very good vhs player lol)

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