Arab conned into marrying bearded lady A Dubai man whose fiancée kept her charms hidden under a niqab opted for a quick divorce after his first glimpse beneath the veil revealed she was cross-eyed and sported a beard. According to Gulf News, the unnamed "ambassador" never saw his intended's face on the few times they met, but was convinced all was well since the …
Moral damage = damage to feelings or reputation.
All in all, this sad case just shows that it's still worth heeding that old wiltshire saying:
"always look at a woman's face before you marry her, if you are the sort of person who might get upset when she later turns out to be less attractive than you were led to believe."
Reminds me a hotel I once stayed in somewhere in Africa, probably Uganda. It was apparently against hotel regulations to keep automatic weapons, explosives, poisons, or nuclear material in their rooms. I never could quite imagine what type of person would wonder around with such items yet feel obliged to honor such terms.
has anyone read the form you have to fill to enter the US (form I-94W). I quiote:
C. Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies?
Ahhhmmm: Yes ? Who would acknowledge this in a freaking form !
In sudafrica, firearms are quite common amongst the population. Some nightclubs have gun lockers !
"Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies?"
I would think that you'd be expect to lie. Then when they do find out, there is a good reason to deport you. If you answer correctly - and they miss it - well you are in a good place deportation wise.
'C. Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies?
Ahhhmmm: Yes ? Who would acknowledge this in a freaking form'
It is a legal issue. If the people concerned are honest (very unlikely), they will probably be denied entry to the USA. If the people concerned lie (as one would expect), they will have committed an offence when they submitted the form. This offence allows them to be deported with minimal proof of involvement, whereas proceedings for more specific crimes might be more complicated and the outcome is less clear because their level of involvement may be relevant.
I needed to go to the job centre today. A muslim couple walked in, woman in full niqab (post box style, just eyes showing), the husband wearing a hoody. The security staff asked him to remove his hood; the woman was not challenged and allowed to keep hers on. So, if you want to put a hit on the Job Centre, you know what to wear.
"...you should try walking into the bank wearing a balaclava or niqab..."
I think some guys in Paris have done exactly that a couple of days ago. One of them produced a handgun and they escaped with 4500 Euros.
Then there was a robbery at a jewellers in the UK a while back, where a robber wore a burka.
...a schoolmate of mine (a violinist, no less) actually did go into a savings bank with a violin case. It did not contain a violin... just some cash he wanted to put into his account. No Balaclava, no sunglasses, nothing. Just a trench coat and a violin case.
They hit the alarm button before he was even half-way to the counters.
In a religion where you cant "try before you buy" surely Caveat Emptor counts for a great deal? He bought it how he saw it, and as we've all been caught out before - things just dont always work out how you hope when you buy without inspecting the goods first! Tough luck, deal with it sunshine...
One question though, he wasnt allowed to look at her face before the marriage but he was shown a photograph? Am i the only one that sees that as absolutely ridiculous. If your not allowed to see the girls face, surely you shouldnt be allowed to see a photo. Alternatively, if your allowed a picture, then why not the real deal... What a ridiculous piece of religious nonsense...
...his mum did! It says it in the article, in black and white (unless you've been playing silly beggars with custom style sheets in your browser again).
It's men that shouldn't see a woman's face, and his mum is quite likely not to be a man, so it's no problem at all for her to see the potential daughter-in-law's face. Really she should have insisted on meeting her in person, so maybe he should be suing his mother for neglect of parental duty too....
If you're going to be derisory about other people's cultures, get your facts straight first!
Creating pictures of animate objects is forbidden in Islam so it should have served as a warning to the man's family that their future in-laws were prepared to break this rule. However, there is the loophole used by some that as photographs are not created by one's own hands but are made by a camera then it's OK. I rather think this loophole wouldn't pass muster seeing as the events apparently occurred in Dubai so public floggings all round.
Reading other websites it does actually say HE saw the pictures...
From the BBC "The envoy, who has not been identified, told a Sharia court her mother had tricked him by showing him pictures of the bride's sister, Gulf News reported."
So either El Reg or the BBC and Gulf news are wrong... I'm willing to place my bets on the BBC (being wrong) but the facts are not clear cut...
So i stand by my statement!
She lives in a society where women are traded as goods and can be returned as defective -- but if the guy's not as advertised then tough shit. At least, now it''s known that she's not that attractive looking, she's less likely to be stoned for being sexually assaulted.
"Really she should have insisted on meeting her in person, so maybe he should be suing his mother for neglect of parental duty too"
But how could HE have KNOW on the day who was under the niqab until he peeled it back?
If you're going to be derisory about other people's comments think about it first.
Moral damage in this case is likely equivalent to what we would call damage for pain and suffering over in the UK, or "emotional distress" in the US.
It comes from the French, where the word for "mental" in certain circumstances is the same as the word for "moral". What is sometimes translated from French cases as "moral damage" is actually damages awarded for emotional distress. It seems to be the same here.
How do I claim my pint?
I had to look up this El Reg story again and watch the trailer:
"Chris Morris jihad film good to go - Four Lions trailer live"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/morris_film_trailer/
"So why's she got her hands on her face?"
"Because she's got a beard..."
PS - I especially like the way the story tags allow me to read more about Beards! See the David Bellamy special feature analysis comment.
# Marriage
# Dubai
# Beard
So the bloke can get a quickie divorce when he makes a mistake, yet a 12 year old Saudi girl forced to marry an 80 year old cousin has to plead for a divorce? Smashing legal system that is. They should have made the bloke sweat a bit longer. And should lock up the parents of the 12 year old.
Couldn't she file (hir)suite against her would-be (hir)suitor? I'm sure she had spent money on him as well, maybe by buying him some nice clothes - surely she should be able to claim money back for her suit (that she bought him). After all, she couldn' really wear it herself as it may not (hir)suite her. Maybe she could become the poster-child for the campaign - she could inspire thousands to follow (hir) suite.
If she cut herself shaving, would she self-apply her sutre?
I suppose I should apologise - making fun of hairy wimmin is hardly (hir)suitable behaviour.
Would seem to have the same effect on your sex life as getting blind drunk on a Friday night, although obviously without the drink, the hangover (arguable in this case) or the restorative next day fry up.
Unfortunate for women that they'll have to stick to the booze/hangover/fry up route to make poor decisions they can disclaim responsibility for the next day.
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