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The US and Russia have begun talks on limiting the the military use of cyberspace. Entry into the cyber arms reduction talks - convened by a United Nations arms control committee - represents a significant shift for the US, which has resisted entering such talks for years, the New York Times reports. The change of tack came …


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  1. Anonymous Coward

    Funny China isnt joining in...

    Considering that most of the media reports ive read (including on here) seem to think that as far as state sponsored cybercrimes go China is the big risk, you would think that the US and russians would want them at the table too...

    just a thought...

  2. Roger Heathcote 1


    Good luck enforcing this. Surely most if not all 'cyberwar' is vigilantism carried out by private citizens who simply want an excuse to go haxxoring? As the article states, it's hard, nay impossible, to find or prove state involvement in any major 'cyberwar' incident to date.

    I wonder what this is really about *dons tin foil hat*

  3. The Vociferous Time Waster

    look at the size of my stick

    The US loves to wave its stick around when it has the biggest stick, as soon as someone else has a stick as big or bigger they suddenly want stick size limitation treaties and stick non proliferation treaties. They also don't want 'rogue states' (for that read 'states they cannot control) developing their own big sticks.

    As we all know, the US is the only stick wielding nation that can use their stick, or the threat of their stick, responsibly.


  4. mark 120

    Nice acronym


  5. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    Idiot Free Space ........ Universally Available.

    I should just like to make it Perfectly Clear that NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT is by its Default Civil CyberSpace Non Military Nature Exempt from any such Laudable Agreement ....... and in AIRuling Class of ITs Own in Advanced Non-State Actor Fields of CyberIntelAIgent Security Operation. It would though wholeheartedly endorse and support all such proposals.

    I do find it somewhat naively optimistic of Russia and America though, to imagine that they can Control Anything in an Imaginative Space which is impervious to dumb Weapons of Mass Destruction and a Place which does not allow Entry to those who would field them as some ignorant big stick against neighbours.

    1. Anonymous Coward
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      Re: Idiot Free Space .......

      As long as you're around, the Internet and the world is everything else than Idiot free.

      1. Anonymous Coward

        No, *you* shut up.

        Everyone round here loves amanfromMars. Nobody likes you, you miserable spiteful wretch. Now sod off.

  6. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    There's one born every minute

    "As long as you're around, the Internet and the world is everything else than Idiot free." ... Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 14th December 2009 16:18 GMT

    You have a lot to learn about everything, AC, and it has been said, and is widely believed and supported, that Manners Maketh Man, ergo .....?

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward


    "Manners Maketh Man"

    You a Wykehamist, eh? Nah ... you'ld know it's "makyth".

  8. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    Clouding over Issues ..... for the Post Modernist in Need to Know Fields.

    ""Manners Maketh Man"

    You a Wykehamist, eh? Nah ... you'ld know it's "makyth"." .... John Dee Posted Monday 14th December 2009 21:49 GMT

    Yes, quite so, John Dee ....... although beautifully far removed from a blessed virgin being existence. A taste for all the vices in moderation will easily control the sins of excess in any and all and render them virtually harmless extraordinarily.

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