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The US 24th Air Force - the first dedicated American military cyber force to go operational - is "not yet a warfighting organisation" and needs to "create an awareness of the battlespace", according to its commander. Major-General Richard Webber, a former nuclear-missile and satellite-jamming officer, took over the 24th in …

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  1. Dan 10

    Network warfare

    Is it me, or does this sound like it could be really interesting?

  2. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    The Alamo v2.0

    "..rather than taking the fight to the enemy - whoever that may prove to be."

    Ah yes...... the Elusive Scarlett Pimpernel Force ...... Wraiths Coating Projects with Stealth for Prime Time Presidential Protection and Virtual Invisibility Assured.

    "The US 24th Air Force - the first dedicated American military cyber force to go operational - is "not yet a warfighting organisation" and needs to "create an awareness of the battlespace", according to its commander."

    Its commander, Major-General Richard Webber, a former nuclear-missile and satellite-jamming officer, may well have admit and accept that increased operational awareness of the virtual battlespace dictates and delivers that it and IT are not suitable spaces for warfighting organisations and are progressively more counterproductive and catastrophically self-destructive .

  3. Will Shaw
    WTF?

    Is it me...

    ..... or does "Operation Screaming Fist" sound like it might be at risk of an embarrassing misunderstanding with the extreme pron laws?

  4. Kurt Lundqvist

    Paranoia

    Yep severe network intrusion .. someone sufred for pr0n and downloaded a trojan

  5. g e

    create an awareness of the battlespace

    Or just create the battlespace fullstop, to find another way to collect military barrel pork.

    "Hey Mr. Prez, we found ANOTHER way to wage 'war'"

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Should you be confused, here is the easy fix

    I read "virtual" every time I see "cyber" and it suddenly makes much more sense. No, not the buzzword, just the normal meaning.

    Maybe we'll just have to wait until the whole 'net turns into second life so they can actually play hide-and-seek in expensive virtual camo before this'll catch on. Or maybe we'll find that the camo only works if your graphics card is the very latest in pixelmongery.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Silly war machine looking for a silly war

    “One year ago this month we had a wake-up call in cyberspace," said the general. "We had a severe intrusion into the Defense networks. It changed the way people are thinking about cyberspace. This time it’s everybody’s problem — every soldier, sailor, airman and Marine."

    Rubbish.

    There is a spending program, it is paid for with 'QE' money, i.e. printed. It needs to be funnelled into the US economy. The only big parts of the US economy left are food and military.

    They are a net importer of IT goods now. If they pumped money into that it would suck in imports. They are a net importer of Chinese goods in most other sectors, so any money spent there would drain into China. Oil? Cars? Clothes? Gas? Nope, net importer in all areas.

    Military? Well now there's something. They cannot import Chinese weapons because the Chinese are not trusted, hence putting the money into the military will keep it in the US economy.

    Likewise *cyberwar*, if you put money into broadband, then it imports Chinese routers & firewalls, but put it into fighting *cyberwars* and suddenly you can pay Raytheon $28 million for a firewall/net monitor, that would be cheaper from Taiwan and nobody bats an eyelid.

    So you can see the rhetoric here, if they print 5% more money, then they need to grow their internal economy by 5% to stop the US$ dropping by that value. Fail to do that and you can print all the money in the world and you're simply diluting your US$ and killing faith in that currency -> currency collapse.

    But do you imagine anyone is fooled by this?

    I note the Teabag Republicans refer to the Stimulus measures as "Obama Stimulus" which means they realize now that it cannot work. (It was the Paulsons stimulus originally from Bush/Cheney). So even they realize now the folly of that.

    http://www.x-rates.com/d/EUR/USD/graph120.html

    Take a look. It's not pretty, and don't think Brown's printing is going to be anymore successful (he's created £200billion extra funny money now and he still has no prospect of getting re-elected).

    http://www.x-rates.com/d/EUR/GBP/graph120.html

    On the plus side, at least it's not a real war against a real enemy that Faber fears.

    http://www.bi-me.com/main.php?id=42214&t=1&c=35&cg=4&mset=1011

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      BASIC Upgrade to Advance IntelAIgent Mode for Virtual Operations Systems

      "Take a look. It's not pretty, and don't think Brown's printing is going to be anymore successful (he's created £200billion extra funny money now and he still has no prospect of getting re-elected)."

      The Magic Secret for Success is in what New Adventures the created £200billion extra funny money now resides. If it is salted away in the same leaky vaults as before, will it drained away as easily again compounding losses from a Basically Flawed System....... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC.

  8. Fred 24
    Black Helicopters

    Perhaps...

    Its just Skynet testing the water?

  9. Bob Howard
    Boffin

    @ will shaw

    Screaming Fist was the abortive attack on the Network Communications center in Kiev that saw the first use of an ICEbreaker in the 'Sprawl' series of books by William Gibson...

  10. Combat Wombat
    Troll

    If its anything like the book...

    Then Screaming Fist will be a bust, that brings down the government, and ushers in a corperate distoypia.

    On the plus side, we will get Molly Millions in tight leather pants..

  11. Mr Mrr
    Paris Hilton

    Sure, And Why Bother, Nothing Really Changed... But...

    It will take only a year 4 carts 2 get an eq of a zoomed stuff back to ports, perhaps> October 15th 2008 at 7:54 pm.

    And any (just one, generally) request by notepad.exe dated by 2008 is just a sorry mystification and a response to the known actions, which, of course, were done just for doing a supposedly right thing.

    Sun Tsu is nervously smoking aside.

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