RE: RE: Re: Interesting...
".....That tearing sound was that particular definition as you tried to stretch it...." Agreed, but if you don't give the Sunshiners something to come back at then all we get is Kebabfart's bleating about cache. However, the Californian brain-drain is not a stretch at all. Whilst it may be too early to start wondering when certain global IT companies might decide to move out of Silly-con Valley to neighbouring or geographically-close-but-not-quite-neighbouring states (happy now?), it would seem logial that they will eventually if California can't provide the people they require.
"....There was also encumbered material in the JDK..." IIRC, the encumbered material in the JDK was largely Sun's own, or owned by non-competing parties whom had no interest in fighting Sun. The core of Slowaris (sorry, it never does tire) is System V UNIX, and Larry has little chance of getting all the players onside on that as some of them have the same code in their proprietary UNIX. For example, I don't expect IBM to be going out of their way to help Larry, and I believe they have rights to some of the code in Slowaris (nope, still not tired!). And whilst Novell have stated "We don't believe there is Unix in Linux", they also said they weren't interested in suing the other UNIX vendors, which kinda hints they think there is material "encumbered" by Novell in commercial UNIX releases, probably including Slowaris (tired? Moi? Never!). Didn't Sun jump to the front of the non-existant queue to pay SCO to "license" UNIX in Slowaris (not done just yet)? I'm sure that wasn't just because they wanted to see Linux crushed, or are you telling me they really knew there was no need to license and they just did want to fund SCO to kill Linux (<insert faux shock here>)? Some of us Linux users have long memories (and Google cache to back them up when alcohol has erased brain cells).
"....And if so, the politicians will be up against Larry...." Yes, and we all know Larry is the new knight-In-shining-white-armour that replaced Steve Jobs as the last enterpreneur-of-suitable-innovative-mysticism-ready-to-save-Sun-unchanged-and-stroke-sunshiner's-egos, bla-bla-bla, but even SuperLarry and his UberBankAccount have their limits. Even if he did get Novell onside by purchase, he'd still have to deal with IBM, and I really don't think even his ego is big enough for that, especially as he seems to have spent the last quarter antagonising IBM. Now, Larry may be loud, but I happen to think he is a very smart man, and I don't think he'd be opening an IBM charm offensive in such a manner, so it looks like he really doesn't have that in mind.
"....If you're going to lash out and put someone in their place, at least try and spell the chosen insult correctly...." Well, it was more laughing-at rather than lashing-out-at. Are we a wee bit sensitive? Apologies for my spelling, but my boss till doesn't think I require a secretary to do my edits. But, TBH, even in the old days when you had to mess about linking files and changing permissions, Oracle installations weren't exactly brain surgery, which is one of the reasons Oracle became the DB of choice. Nowadays it's even easier, so, IMO, the original poster must be thick (<= much easier to spell!).
".....someone with a chip on their shoulder about Sun, who foams at the mouth at the very mention of the organisation." More of a falls-of-the-chair-laughing-at, and mainly directed at the Sunshiners and their blinkered views. I did know a number of very intelligent and skilled people that used to work at Guillemont Park, some whom would even hold their hands up and admit to being my friends, but the truth is most of them have left Sun for pastures greener a while ago (shockingly, one of them even went to Microsoft!!!!). My "chip" is not a Sun in general issue, it's more to do with the comic attitude of the Sunshiners (not Sun employees) that have hitched their careers to the Sun wagon and rode it through the good times, happy in their herd-mentality and roughshod over anyone with a conflicting view, but now find it so hard to admit they may have been wrong. Why shouldn't we have a good laugh at their expense, especially as they are so easy to provoke? After all, pretty much all they have left is a sense of humour, and if they're losing that.....
/Slowaris - nah, it's got too good a ring to it to drop just yet!