@mongs - Festival of Flamage - misconceptions 101
@George Schultz
"Your analogies are wrong. A correct analogy should be:
"If HP wanted to update all HP printer software so that they could only be used on HP printers ... would that be illegal?"
That is better. (And now your argument shows its true flaws.)"
No, a better analogy would be "If HP made a popular, but shit, desktop music player and nobbled it so that it could only play nice with HP brand portable music players"
That is better, and now your poor reading comprehension shows it's true flaws.
In easy words : iTunes doesn't run on iPods/iPhones, therefore you are an arse.
@P 8
"Go read your terms and conditions you will find it is illegal to jailbreak your ipod touch :)"
Illegal ? Really ? Is that 'illegal' in the sense that you can point to some legislation, or is it 'illegal' in the sense that 'illegal' downloading is illegal (e.g. it isn't, but it may be actionable under civil law), or is it, even more tenuously, 'illegal' in the sense that it breaches some arbitrary terms that the purchaser is assumed to have agreed to but never even had a chance to read before purchase and hasn't signed off on, making it dubious that it's even actionable at all in most sensible jurisdictions ?
If you answer yes to the first question and quote the DMCA, everyone outside the US will laugh at you.
@ AC Tuesday 6th October 2009 09:31 GMT
"No, because Apple could implement blocking to protect their monopoly on the software side of things just as easily."
No, they can't. Not without breaking every single third party iTunes application in the world, of which there are many. There is a published SDK for iTunes utilising AppleScript on OS X and COM interfaces on Windows. The existence of this SDK, which enables all sorts of neat things like generic bluetooth remote control, media streaming, custom playlisting and suchlike makes it quite easy to knock up a sync app for any old generic device you have lying around.
Maybe you should, y'know, "Stop talking shit about things you clearly know nothing about."
Which goes for this, to, BTW :
"If you believe Palm is in the wrong and Apple is in the right, and that the USB-IF did the right thing, then you simply do not understand the repercussions of the USB-IF's decision"
The decision that Vendor IDs a) should be unique and b) are the property of the vendors who've been assigned them ? Which part of this have _you_ failed to grok ?
"The USB-IF and Apple are running at odds to USB and why it was created"
No, actually, Palm are doing that. USB Vendor IDs and device identifiers are fundamental to the correct operation of device drivers, fucking around with them will likely break something in the end, and doing so has no place in production code.
Again, maybe you should, y'know, "Stop talking shit about things you clearly know nothing about."
"their position itself is also legally dubious in that it opens the door for clearly illegal monopolistic practices of which Apple may already be guilty."
If it's clearly illegal then you ought to be able to quote a section of some legislation that is, prima facie, being breached. You can't, can you ?
Thought not.
Maybe you should, y'know, "Stop talking shit about things you clearly know nothing about."
Just sayin.