The question is...
...do those passengers in the back have legs, or are they actually the seats for the driver and front passenger?
Following Renault's recent launch of the odd looking Twizy at the Frankfurt Motor Show, Peugeot has stepped in with its own take on ‘eye catching’ electric city cars. Peugeot_BB1_02 Peugeot's BB1 is, well, odd looking Apparently inspired by Peugeot’s electric VLV from the 1940s, the new all-electric BB1 represents the car …
Er, where are the seats? Judging by the pictures, the people in the front are sitting on the laps of the people in the back. Nice of them to remove the pedal controls though, since you're going to have to cut off your legs to get in. A niche market perhaps?
I peered inside the Toyota IQ four-seater the other day, and literally the back seats were right up against the front seats which means either your back passengers are sitting cross-legged for the whole journey, or you're going to have to be handy with a sterile chainsaw. Not sure why they didn't just leave out the back seats and call it what it is, a two-seater with limited luggage capacity.
When I first looked at the pictures I thought it looked ugly, but the more I look the more I like.
If these are cheap enough then for someone like me who uses his car mainly for driving 40 minutes to and from work it would be ideal. Still have the bigger family car for outings and longer trips but for short journeys where the speed limit is usually 40mph max then these are perfect.
Beyond its size, that car looks virtually nothing like its alleged 40s inspiration. Matter of fact, it doesn't look like remotely like *any* car from the 1940s.
Interesting, yeah, but not remotely retro, not even in a modernised Mini or Fiat 500 way.
Why are e-car manufacturers putting so much effort into making cars look "quirky" as opposed to making them look "good"?
Okay it's new technology and they've got the chance to make it look a bit futuristic but they seem to be imagining a future where everyone is blind or something.
And why are none of these cars ever bigger than a golf cart? Oh yeah because e-cars are crap.
IQ uses an old trick initially developed by the Daihatsu bit in Toyota group. In fact it is a largely Daihatsu design (same as Aygo is a largely PSV design).
The back seats are higher than the front and as a result you have a "sit on a chair" style posture in them, not "sprawled in a coach" posture like most cars of American and German origin. Not particularly comfortable for a long journey, but perfectly reasonable for in-town use. So you definitely do not need to reach for a sterile chainsaw. It definitely has more space for the rear passengers than let's say Jeep Cherokee or some other USA vehicles 3 times its size.
...like car "designers" are trying to out-do each other these days. If this thing were the only car one could buy, I'd buy a bicycle. Cheaper, does not need electricity, and I wouldn't look like a complete idiot for having bought it. And the top speed would be somewhat comparable.
Backswept windshields and suicide doors... and the rear seats are clearly ridiculous in this thing. If I were Peugeot, I would not only not pay the designers of this... thing, I'd fire them outright and demand damages.
So what’s the range and what’s the charge time?
I have been campaigning for free parking for motor bikes in Westminster since they started their experiment over a year ago see NoToBikeParkingFees.com. One of the arguments against just providing enough parking for bikes was that there is too much pressure on kerb side space in Westminster, yet both Westminster council and Boris Johnson want to introduce more electric vehicle’s. Both see the political mileage in this and both want to get into the personal vehicle market, no doubt for the money to be made. The electric car is a joke when it comes to recharging though and needs to be recharged at the side of the road to make it viable so you need charge points which is fine until more people change to electric and every car space needs a charge point! The only viable alternative to petrol is a source of power that can use the existing petrol stations.
There are a lot of alternatives but so far the best idea I have seen is compressed air http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8aZVLpf-c . Compressed air sounds odd until you realise that a car engine is an internal combustion engine that just compresses the air in the cylinder. This system uses compressed air which can be compressed at the petrol station using electricity; you have to get power from somewhere. Charge times as shown in the video 3 minuets, so time to go and pay for the compressor and electricity, as you would for petrol. The only question is the type of engine. Lastly the compressed air cylinder technology exists but you would need to come up with a standard fill connection.
Well that’s put the would to rights mines a pint.
For people wondering how the rear passengers have squeezed their legs in, the answer is that they are straddling the front seats. Pics via the link below. You will also notice they only show the people using lap-belts.
Paris because of the straddling.
Why are they given such free reign these days? - is the car industry trying to kill the electric car by making them undesirable? Why do all these electric cars have to look weird? (with a few notable exceptions of course)
If I was designing an electric car, I would make it function well first before trying to make it look good. It's a bit like architects coming up with the design then asking the engineers to make it however complex and impractical it is.
I haven't but motorbikes are so different from cars that I'd expect switching from one to another to be simple.
I've driven any number of cars though. Two had different column changes, one with the handbrake by the driver's door, and the other under the dash (both had front bench seats). No problems whatsoever.
The pedal layout never changes though, And I'd much prefer the brake to be where my right foot expects.k
trying compressing air sometime & then letting it escape quickly. The pump heats up very quickly when compressing & the air freezes (forming ice) when uncompressing. Welcome to thermodynamics, (or check out wikipedia article on compress air engines).
This makes compressed air cars less efficient and more difficult than you might think.
Batteries + electric motors still have the most potential for a replacement for petrol/diesel ICE motor-vehicles, simply because the huge investment in many industries (a better battery would be huge for transport, laptops, phones, you name it) and they just don't have the same mechanical issues.
Any cyclist of moderate fitness can accelerate to 20 in under 3 seconds too...
I know city speeds seldom reach 30, but a maximum foot-to-the-floor acceleration of 0-40 in 7 seconds is too slow even in a city.
I have to say, I like the styling though. Looks like a Smart car that's been modified to go in a Judge Dredd film.
Aha! The doors face backwards and it has four wheels - magnificent.
But as for all the folks here claiming that it's ugly. Of course it's ugly - it's a French car.
Whatever elan the French have towards design goes out the window when they're asked to produce a modern car. Have a look at the petrol-powered monstrosities Peugeot are currently turning out with their gaping mouths, silly fiddly detailing and tin-foil construction, then there's the vile Megane with it's stupid stick-out rear end, the anodyne beyond words Picasso and the interchangeably awful pocket Citroens. There haven't been so many ugly cars in production since the dying days of Leyland.
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