VMware goes into hyper-drive with vSphere 4.0

Ahead of the four-day VMworld extravaganza in San Francisco next week, server virtualization juggernaut VMware wanted to toss out some numbers to show that its vSphere 4.0 virtualization stack is getting great traction in the market. And because Microsoft can't stand being number two or three in any market, it started throwing …

[Anonymous Coward]

People are choosing VMware

Microsoft has millions of customers using Windows 2008 that have the opportunity to use HyperV anytime. Every customer that is using VMware this year has made a conscious decision NOT to use HyperV. Those download numbers are impressive and demonstrate people actively choosing VMware over Microsoft. Food for thought.....

[Anonymous Coward]

VMWare are planning to fail

VMWare are currently still popular because they were the market leader. Unfortunately they are driving away partners, customers and consultants at the moment. Existing VCP qualifications must be upgraded before December 31st if we are to avoid taking another course. 4 Months may seem a lot of time, but for a working (and billable) consultant 4 months is very short indeed. Taking a single day off for an exam is bad enough, but taking time off for a course is a slap in the face for those that would pass the exam anyway.

They have also increased prices and made the number of SKUs very confusing while adding no benefit (just like MS and Vista). The partner logon has been mucked about with causing us all to spend 30 minuted fixing our previously working logons (username AND password changed without notice).

Now I've previously pushed VMWare over everything else, and between that and Hyper-V there is still no comparison. Xen on the other hand has come along nicely and now contains all the features most companies need. It also only has 3 editions - free better and best. One of those is free and contains the most used virtualization features. Citrix also gave all of our consultants free training courses, beta software and plenty of information about what's coming up.

To answer the article as to where Citrix get their money, look at their whole product stack. Xen Server is helping them sell a plethora of other software and a foot in the door is better than out in the cold. Provisioning server is genius, and Xen Desktop is easily the best VDI solution while XenApp (Citrix Metaframe Presentation Server Winframe XP yada yada) still presents a great SBC solution which they make plenty of money on.

[Svein Skogen]

If they are counting the ESXi ...

If they're counting the ESXi download (free license) as one of the licenses, i guess I'm one of those as well.

I tested hyper-v, xen, and went with ESXi at the 3.5u2 time for performance and quality of management tools. I'm now running 3 ESXi servers, but no vcenter, here at home. Had a "licensed for non-commercial use" vcenter been available, I'd have set up that as well.

//Svein

[flipper]

Hyper-V isn't Enterprise ready yet

Hyper-V is better than I expected it to be, but it's not a real competitor yet. Maybe R2 will change that.

The previous version of XenServer was 5.0, not 5.1

[Anonymous Coward]

@AC 21:35

Very bold assumption that all of those customers are running said VM's with windows

[Anonymous Coward]

Does Hyper-V R2 get rid of the parent partition?

If not, then it's not a true type one hypervisor IMO. If you need to have a VM in between your hypervisor and your guests, you're not really a type one.

Until they fix this, I'd not consider Hyper-V an Enterprise product.

And before any M$ fanbois start bleating on about the Service Console, that's a VM that you use to administer (or used to use to administer) the server. It does f*ck all to the hypervisor or VMs.

[Nigel 11]

VMware ESXi4 is free (beer)

Contrary to what the article implies, ESXi4 is a zero-cost download, just as ESXi3 was. They make the money selling the add-ons.