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Firefox 3.5 can now be downloaded from Mozilla’s website, but some of the open source outfit’s servers appear to be having a little lie down at time of writing. Mozilla’s Get FireFox download page is currently displaying an “Http/1.1 Service Unavailable” message for some users keen to grab the latest version. Elsewhere, users …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
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    Java script like shish off a stick

    Tracemonkey seems to be doing the business! Shame about add-on support- but then there's always a bit of a delay when a new version hits.

  2. Peter D'Hoye
    Dead Vulture

    Little lie down?

    As I read this article, I tried to download and it came in at about 450KB/s, not bad for a little lie down

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Gates Horns

    BEWARE/WARNING before installing !!!!

    I found that it did NOT import all my Bookmarks and so if you did NOT take a backup then you are in Deep S*** . All other updates left bookmarks as they were ,this one does NOT.

    BE WARNED

  4. Test Man
    Stop

    Re: BEWARE/WARNING before installing !!!!

    It imported all my bookmarks - like every single Firefox release before it.

    Must be your system.

  5. Dazed and Confused

    No problems here ... yet

    Sam from the Google Mozilla page 3.5 was available. Asked to check for new version, no problems, downloaded at full speed, Firefox restarted and everything seems OK.

    A couple of plugins are missing.

    Seem to have all my bookmarks.

    It does seem to be lots faster.

  6. James O'Brien
    WTF?

    @Anonymouse Retard Tuesday 30th June 2009 16:48 GMT

    WTF are you smoking? It installed fine without a problem for me. Hell even all the addons worked fine.

  7. Aaron 6

    not that impressed

    I just tried the sunspider test and it completed in just over 2000ms on firefox 3.5 but google chrome did it in 1200ms.

  8. Richard 45
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    @BEWARE/WARNING before installing !!!!

    No problems here with bookmarks.

  9. Sooty

    hmm, odd

    As a normal user, i can't say that I've spotted any obvious differences (ok, the new + tab), but then again, some of my normal sites seem to be rendered slightly differently. I'm buggered if i could tell you how though.

    I'm not sure what the big deal is to be honest, if this came out as a standard auto update i probably wouldn't even have noticed it.

  10. Steven Raith
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    @BEWARE/WARNING before installing !!!!

    *checks bookmarks*

    *updates*

    *checks bookmarks*

    Still there. You must have dodgy third party plugins or a knackered PC or summat.

    Good general advice though, it must be said.

    HTH

    Steven R

  11. Joe H.
    Alert

    @BEWARE/WARNING before installing !!!!

    No trouble with the bookmarks, or the download speed, however, AVG 8.5.339 safe surfing app is now gone. I was getting used to the green check marks next to my search results, alas.

    Of course, this gives me something to do for the next few days, that being looking for the add on support updates.

  12. Jeremy Cordes

    bookmarks are fine

    All my bookmarks are fine. An easy download and install, shame about the add on support.

  13. kissingthecarpet
    Linux

    You can disable add-on compatibility checking

    I use the 3.6a1 nightly (rightly called Minefield :) & to save mucking about I've disabled compatibility checking - this ( http://lifehacker.com/355973/make-your-extensions-work-with-the-firefox-3-beta ) was helpful.

    If a compatible version of Tab Mix Plus or FEBE isn't available go to their website forums where you can get the latest build.

  14. Tom 35

    Looks good so far

    I installed it on my second computer and no problems so far.

    Nice quick install, no reboot required, all my bookmarks are still there too.

    Reg hardware reviews now scroll smoothly even with the funky background that slows down 3.0.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Works on Linux

    Didn't back up anything, no bookmarks or history issues but haven't noticed the slightest difference in terms of performance. Not tried it on anything else yet.

    Only plugin not working was CacheClear.or summat.

    Meh. Big deal ...

  16. Jimbo 7

    works great

    upgrade from 3.0 was more than smooth ... so far no issues

    all my plug-ins work (I might be a bit lucky, I dont use that many plugins)

    XMARKS works

    WOT works

    IETab works

    AdBlock works

    NoScript works

    1-Click Weather works

  17. Will Godfrey Silver badge

    @AC - warning

    Hmmm. Seemed to handle all my bookmarks just fine, and I have rather a lot of them, mostly in a group of 20 folders.

  18. Michael H.F. Wilkinson
    Pint

    I had no problems

    It downloaded at amazing speed, no hitches in set-up, appears to be much faster

    NICE

  19. Trev 2

    Bookmarks

    Just done it here from the link under "help" and it seemed to keep everything so might depend on previous version (think mine was whatever the last non-beta). Xmarks plugin however could be useful here to make sure there's a constant backup.

    Not sure if it's any quicker generally, but at least the install was done in about 2 mins which is better than IE's half hour with 3 reboots. Nicely it also tells you what plugins won't work afterwards, although in my case 2 / 3 were updateable.

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Big Brother

    Adverb Alert

    "Orwellishly"

    Hmmm......

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Linux

    @Beware

    I think a Nelson quote is in order: "Ha-ha!" Must've been something you did. (Or maybe the Windows version is a little screwy, I wouldn't know.)

  22. Eddie Johnson
    Badgers

    Tell me what really matters

    How much faster is it than 3.0 with JavaScript disabled and Adblock engaged, the typical settings of people who really care about performance?

    What's that you say, 0%?

    Ah, thought so.

    Gotta admit though, I'm intrigued by the thought of video without any extensions required. I just hope they know better than to allow *any embedded control whatsoever*.

  23. Anthony Chambers
    FAIL

    Got mine

    No problem, but I can't get on the Acid3 test page

    http://acid3.acidtests.org/

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Welcome

    I for one

    Yes, you know the rest....

  25. paul brain
    Grenade

    Use Google Chrome

    Its fast , it starts fast .. oh.. and its fast

    Lost interest in firefox some time ago when it took longer than Vista to start, tested Chrome and BAM!! converted.....

    If they have fixed it 3.5 I'll give it a go ?

    Anyone downloaded and tested this yet ? or is it still a dog

  26. Anonymous Coward
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    Seems decent

    I've been using it for a hour or so this morning and it seems quite nice. I don't know what kind of crack the AC with his/her/it's warning about book marks is blathering on about as I've yet to hear anyone making that same claim. Then again there is one nutter (often more) in every crowd. A couple non essential plug ins don't work at the moment but that's not a huge deal since they'll be up to working with 3.5 soon enough. My only real beef with 3.5 is where Mozilla hid the detailed options for cookie and history handling. It's there in the privacy tab but the details are hidden unless you select "Use custom settings for history" from a drop down box. Note to the people at Mozilla, this kind of hiding key privacy options behind options for something totally different makes you look shady. There was probably no malice behind this design decision but it doesn't do anything to help the ease of use.

  27. OkKTY8KK5U

    "I put the fires out." "You made them worse!" "Worse? Or better?"

    Meh.

    Looks like still no way to use a real bookmarks format (still an insane database kludge instead of a proper text file) and still no easy GUI toggleswitch for disabling the AwesomeBar (which not all of us find awesome). Countdown to some twit spouting out the usual insulting nonsense about how he/she/it didn't like it at first blah blah blah. I wonder if the "add bookmark" weirdo-box can at least be natively resized without resorting to an add-on yet...

  28. Chris Dupont
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    No problem here

    Backing up your bookmarks is wise before an upgrade though.

  29. Nigel Wright

    I shall let.....

    .....the early adopters take the pain whilst add-on developers catch up and debug. I'm happy enough with my existing with exception of its thirst for RAM.

  30. adnim
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    No problems so far

    Came in at a quick 966kb/s. All bookmarks OK... but still export them first, I did. The AC with problems might not be the only one ;-)

    A trio of addons... html Validator, Leetkey and ProxySel are incompatible, but AdBlock, NoScript, CS Lite and ReminderFox are all working fine.

    Looks and performs fine so far.

  31. Gabor Laszlo
    WTF?

    Meh

    Been running the RCs for months, works perfectly, no missing bookmarks, and with Add-on Compatibility Checking off it runs all my extras just fine. Only TabMixPlus keeps ignoring the Multirow tab bar setting at startup (but snaps back if you change it), but that's for Gary Reyes to fix.

  32. Linbox
    Go

    No problem with bookmarks.

    No backup taken. None needed. Everything hunky-dory.

  33. Neil Stansbury
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    Wooo!!!

    Woooo - just updated from 3.5 b4 - man there is a bunch of stuff that is very cool - and a few things that really caught my eye:

    http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xhtml

    https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Applying_SVG_effects_to_HTML_content

    This one is very cool - try typing in the left/right iframes:

    https://developer.mozilla.org/@api/deki/files/3217/=filterdemo.xhtml

    Also the now checked in support for the ":nth-child/type" CSS selectors which is definately useful

    Also an XPCOM interface for WiFi: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/nsIWifiMonitor

    Just love it!!!

    Go Mozilla - still setting the benchmarks for other to follow.

  34. Stephen 1
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    Bookmarks OK

    Seamless upgrade here, certainly no problem with bookmarks. Works well too.

    It did require a reboot though, which on Vista took several times longer than the actual install <sigh>

    (And why am I now Stephen 1, when I used to be just Stephen? Who is this new Stephen that has usurped me?)

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  36. klarien masters
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    all good here.....

    certainly feels a lot crisper !!!!!

  37. James O'Shea

    warning?

    FF 3.5 seems to have imported all bookmarks here, on OS X and Vista and XP. Could it possibly be that there's a problem at your end?

  38. Ermie Mercer
    Happy

    My bookmarks...

    ...all seem to be ok. 3.5 seems to be a little faster as well.

  39. David Kelly 1
    WTF?

    Re: BEWARE/WARNING before installing !!!!

    Upgraded three macs at home to FF 3.5 and didn't have any issues with bookmarks on any of them. In fact, I can still run FF 2.0 and 3.0 on those machines and see all my bookmarks.

  40. BenDwire Silver badge
    Go

    Bookmarks?

    I upgraded with no loss of data at all, unlike at least one AC above. If you haven't discovered Mozbackup then find it and use it first. You can never have too many backups :-)

    Is it faster? On my old P4 it seems to have a definite spring in its step. Adaware, Noscript & Flashblock all seem happy. I see no reason to hold back (assuming you can get hold of the download!)

  41. Anonymous Coward
    Linux

    Nice

    Like one commenter said, it feels crisp.

    Real quick as well. On Fedora 10

  42. Martyn 1
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    Looking good to me

    @Paul Brain

    A completely non scientific test to start up and browse to El Reg seems to show that FF is marginally quicker than Chrome. Only had FF3.5 for 10 minutes though.

    @Iam Me & others

    It wiped my bookmarks too, so thanks to AC for the warning as I'd backed them up beforehand.

    My addons seem to work too, all in all looking good for me on XP at work, now just got to stick it on Linux at home.

  43. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    I have since discovered ...

    I mentioned the clean install and no bookmark issues earlier, but have since discovered that if you try to view BBC iPlayer full-screen it will precipitate a crash. Knew it was too good to be true.

    There's bound to be other issues.

  44. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    SunSpider test results on Linux:

    5193.6ms +/- 10.1% -- OK the Linux version appears slower than other implementations (as usual). I wonder if this is still true on OSX?

  45. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    flash videos on 'fullscreen'

    FF crashes when you try to view flash videos on fullscreen (linux+ nvidia graphics).

    It works ok with the 3.1 but not with the 3.5! Searching the net, I found a (temp. I hope) solution:

    On the flash videos untick the 'use hardware acceleration' preference/

  46. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    SunSpider test results on OS X 10.5.7

    1474.8ms +/- 1.1% approximately 500ms slower than Safari 4.0, but considerably better than Opera 10 beta at 6034.8ms +/- 5.2%

  47. kissingthecarpet
    Gates Horns

    Just did Acid 3 test

    FF3 got 94/100 & v. similar page to reference

    IE7 got 5/100 thats FIVE out of 100 & the page looked like shite

    That is all.

  48. andymac
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    Painless Upgrade

    No problems here, no bookmarks lost, upgrade quick and easy with no reboot required. Only extension that's not working is CustomizeGoogle.

  49. Andy Barber
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    @Joe H

    Still using AVG 8.5.339? I'm on 8.5.375 & that is still hunky-dory after installing Firefox 3.5.

  50. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @ xChris

    "On the flash videos untick the 'use hardware acceleration' preference/"

    Thanks for the tip. Will try that later.

    It is odd that ff 3.1 worked fine and Epiphany still works fine with Flash video.

  51. Anonymous Coward
    Unhappy

    @@@@BEWARE/WARNING before installing !!!!

    I posted the original message. It MAY be I had a problem because I use the "Multi Row Bookmarks Toolbar" and could be that was the problem ??. What appeared in new version was NO multi row bookmarks and only about 1/8th of the Bookmarks in proper place. Luckily Bookmark backups still existed BUT the new version would not let me import those. I use XP prof by way. Should the new version allow manual import of old version bookmarks ?.

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