"...online tat bazaar"
love it :-)
eBay has been told not to republish adverts claiming its prices are 25 per cent cheaper than the High Street. The Advertising Standards Authority found in favour of a complaint that the claim was misleading. eBay based their advert on third party research and not all the evidence was available. But the online tat bazaar …
...you add on the delivery charges, time wasted winning the auction, waiting for a response from the seller, collecting it from the sorting office, realising it is really just a cheap Chinese knock off then going to a proper retailer to buy the real item for £2 more than it went for on e-bay.
To be fair, I have got A LOT of computer parts off ebay for MUCH cheaper then I would have from a shop. I have Cisco switches, routers, HP servers (and I mean SCSI RAID+ILO+2 PSU's etc jobby's) Dell servers, tape drives...the list goes on for a fraction of the price. When I did my CCNA I got some Cisco stuff off ebay, if you look on a shop for reselling old gear they where asking far more then someone on ebay, who realistically was doing the CCNA or something simluar anyway. I bought a whole HP server for 30£ + 30£ for delivery from someone doing a factory clear out
Since most high streets are filling up with pound shops, charity second hand outlets, and short lease tat-dealers, I'd say the high street was actually starting to offer a serious alternative to eBay. The only step the remains, is for all these highstreet junk-retailers to stay open until pub-closing time, and eBay will be finished.
Im rapidly beginning to hate eBay and PayPal with a vengeance.
Im sick of buying things on eBay that turn out to be fake, or where people receive the item and then put in a claim to Paypal for non-reciept of goods even though you have a receipt of postage, and Paypal then automatically side with the buyer.
In short, go to eBay if you dont mind getting ripped off, getting fakes, and having their own credit company swindle you as well..... I only buy what I cannot find elsewhere on eBay now and even then I search around a lot to find an eBay alternative.
Go ASA... now tell virgin media to stop calling Coax Fibre!
Does anyone actually trust ebay for anything except low value second hand tat, novelty collectables or cheap OEM spares shipped over from China via Hong Kong?
I certainly don't feel comfortable buying anything of any value from that site - I've recently bought an £850 second hand DSLR from a high street retailer because I could inspect the item's condition before handing over the cash and I can return it to the retailer if i have any problems. There's no way I would trust any of the ads on ebay (powersellerXXX etc) with an £850 upfront transaction.
Paris - cause with girls like her you get to have a look before you hand over your hard earned and she gives you exactly what you pay for...
As much as I enjoy searching eBay for rare collectables I also use it to get everyday gadgets & useful items, but certain things are not worth getting from eBay because with a 20% price difference between 2nd hand off eBay & brand new shop bought on expensive items the shop always wins because of consumer protection laws (does anyone /really/ trust PayPal?) and 2 year warranty under EU laws.
Plus you shouldn't ever buy USB flash sticks off eBay, I've ended up acquiring (given by family/friends) 3 USB flash drives that originated from eBay and they all arrived screwey, 4gb one would 'lose' it's files when plugged into another computer even though they would initially playback ok, the other two had been programmed to appear bigger than they are - but found a handy piece of software to reprogram them to show their true sizes; so now I have a free 132mb & 1gb.
I dare say most things on ebay are not as cheap as they would have been had they not increased the fess. I'm selling things for much more than I did before they put the fees up. An average sale of £50 can incur fees of nearly £10 (Listing, FVF and PayPal). I wish more people used ebid for the things I sell, then I'd switch and not look back.
Now they are shoving adverts into our faces on every page surely that generates an income that would allow them to reduce fees? I appreciate they spend a lot of money on hosting, staff etc but they don't even care about the sellers and we're the ones that pay the fees.
Start using ebid people!
"I bought a whole HP server for 30£ + 30£ for delivery from someone doing a factory clear out"
Yeah, a bit like the 'clear out' a mate had forced upon him, when £10ks worth of surveyor-quality GPS receiver was nicked from his van.
Put on eBay the next day - mate saw it, informed the rozzers, who found a mountain of stolen kit at the address.
Be very, very careful of 'suspiciously' cheap goods. Would you have bought that server from a bloke in the pub? Or would you have been worried about being arrested for being in possession of stolen goods?
Buying a solar-powered phone charger from Hong Kong, receiving a 4-way USB video camera dongle instead and having to argue with the seller that you won't pay the return postage for the wrong item because a) it's their fault and b) Postage is 4x the value of the wrong item.
What's not to like!?
Seriously though - I have got some good, second-hand IT kit (routers, switches, VoIP phones and racks) from ebay but picking known, trusted resellers. Cheap USB chargers from Hong Kong etc. are also usually OK, but for new stuff I'd always check high street prices and availability first and then still seriously avoid ebay unless really certain about the seller.
In about 4 years of dealings on ebay, I've probably saved close to £10K in IT kit, been shafted once for £45 whcih I couldn't reclaim and had to make around £50 of paypal claims so, on balance, it's been worth it.
/paris because she'll accept any best offer. A+++ would use her avatar again.
Perfect place for those silly little nick-nacks, like silly sata-to-USB cables or cheap computer cables, drill bits, comics, ods and sods etc, the sort of tat you used to be able to get at any local Saturday market, but I would never buy anything expensive off there anymore, not with places like Amazon and such like!
Additionally I won't sell on there, eBay take 10% commission on sales then insist on PayPal and then PayPal takes about 2-3% cut off the payment! Fecking rip off to customers, damn near financial rape of sellers!
The wheels are rapidly falling off ebay's wagon. Notice how everyone here is complaining about bas experiences and the realisation that for many things ebay just isn't worth it. A couple of years ago everyone would have been proclaiming how cheap ebay was - it was in the early days but there are too many buyers there now.
They really need to clean up the site and weed out the bad sellers. Start with all those who reside in Hong Kong or China, UK. If they cannot be honest about where they are located they should be banned as untrustworthy. However, it is not in ebay interest to weed these out of UK listings even if that is what the buyer requests in their search preferences.
There also need to be better reporting mechanisms - feedback does not work since retaliatory feedback is all that ensues. I saw one seller selling three identical Amstrad PCWs not so long ago. Two were advertised as tested and working. The third "appeared to work as far as I can tell, but I do not have a boot floppy to test fully". In other words of course, it was tested and failed. That is fraud and he should be kicked off, but there isn't even any mechanism to report that unless you buy the item.
Until these issues are sorted, 25% isn't enough of a discount. You need to pay no more than 1/3rd of an item's true value to offset the inconvenience and outright risk involved in ebay buying.
I find eBay is good for small things like cable ties or small amounts of craft materials that don't justify an hour spent looking in shops up and down the high street to find whats essentially only a few quid worth of stuff. Then again I can be quite lazy.
I used to buy a lot of second hand computer equipment off them but I've since realised its a massive waste of time. Brand new stuff isn't much more expensive, and you get the luxury of knowing with some certainty that you're actually going to get what you paid for.
If you gonna buy stuff on Ebay from China and Hong Kong - well you've only got yourself to blame, together with a import tax bill. Idid it once and I'm still deciphering the instruction manual.
Maybe I'm kidding myself in thinking I have a better chance of recourse with a UK seller than one who lives on the other side of world, speaks a different language and has a completely different set of laws. International trade regulations were never my strong point.
And, yes, you can presume I live in the UK.
It depends what one is buying.
I just bought a USB cable for a Canon Powershot Pro 90 IS camera on ebay: $7.00. At retail it was over $50.
I just bought a Dell PERC 5/i on ebay: $165 inc shipping. I don't know what Dell would ask for the thing but I seriously doubt they would meet the price I paid.
I frequently see good ethernet switches selling below retail too though I've not bought one.
Video cards and CPUs and new hard drives and mainboards on the other hand are not appreciably cheaper on ebay than the local computer parts bigbox shops.
£30 ProLiant may not be stolen, he never said it had top of the line hardware in it. I got one with a Pentium D in it for $20 at a salvage yard around here. With that being said, though, I haven't touched eBay in years; ever since I found a couple of computer equipment salvage places around town - I doubt you'll find a complete SunFire 880 on eBay. (Well, maybe you would, but I wouldn't want to ship the bloody thing.)
How to survive the eBay purchasing process:
1. Treat any eBay purchases as a pure gamble. Never, ever bid even one penny more for an item than you could afford to lose (as in, never see again, ever) if anything goes amiss.
2. When buying anything over £10, use the "ask seller a question" feature. If they can't answer questions satisfactorily, don't bid.
3. Always pay by postal order, made out to "cash", bought from a busy urban post office (not that there are any rural ones left anymore under Labour). Post it to the vendor using a self-sealing envelope, with a self-adhesive stamp (saliva is full of DNA); and put nothing in the envelope which might identify you, or whatever you might be buying, to anyone who might intercept the postal order in transit.
4. The most important rule of eBay: If you can get it anywhere else -- get it there.
For all the reasons stated above (poor quality, fraud, stolen goods, outrageous "fees." little or no customer service. high prices), t just isn't worth using eBay anymore. I've been ripped off as both buyer and seller one too many times. As my gran would say - pshaw!
It pays to scour the web and local shops for deals on new stuff. I recently found a local reseller offering 2TB Western Digital oem SATA drives for $150. Used stuff i seek and sell on the local Craig's list. This gives me the chance to examine the goods and run the serial to see if it is used, stolen, etc.
Ebay is so twentieth century.
Its been the case for several years (maybe longer) that for example a lot of PC memory went for more on eBay than it cost from online shops WITH a Warantee. BUT when you wanted older parts that no-one can be bothered to sell - or that get rapidly "unsold" - eBay IS the only place to go.
Need memory for that old motherboard? Broken the VHS you use to watch the 1000 tapes you collected in the previous decade? - almost no other choice than eBay. I sold off my Dad's old (circa 70s & 80s) hi-fi for him - people rushed to buy as it had a proper record deck AND you couldn't match the quality later than the mid-eighties.
@spectacularly refined chap and AC
I have purchased many things from Chinese and HK sellers without issues. My last large purchase was a new 135mm Nikon lens, the fellow had at the time of purchase a positive feedback of 22 thousand. Service was first rate. The lens arrived in 5 days by Fedex. The store name is Chinaarts if the mods will let this through.
I use ebay to purchase goods that "don't exist" in the local chain.
I live in a small city (1 million population) in a fairly developed country (japan) but not a single decent pc store to be found here. Graphics cards are at least 50% more expensive than in US/European shops if you can find something you want.
So for me being able to just look for what I need on ebay without having to deal with sales people in a shop that try to sell you a PXI express card when you ask for AGP is perfect for me.
Of course buying something on ebay is always a risk and it is a fact that ebay will do nothing (except to ignore you) when you have a problem.
Got something too bulky / too heavy to post? Don't want to risk possible damage in transit? Well then, go to eBay, and be mindful of the following:
1) You must offer PayPal (which is owned by eBay.) No ifs. No buts. That way, eBay can rip you off for the listing fee and for the sales commission, and eBay-owned PayPal can then rip you off for the commission charged on the compulsory credit transaction.
2) You must not ask for payment in cash on collection. Your listing will be banned by eBay.
3) You must have proof of posting of any item to the buyer's PayPal verified address otherwise PayPal won't cover you in the event of a fraudulent charge-back.
4) So you refrain from asking for cash, you agree to let your buyer pay via PayPal, your item is taken away, eBay hits you with listing fee + sales commission, PayPal hits you with transaction commission, your buyer claims the item was never received, you have no proof of postage because the item was collected, PayPal immediately refunds the buyer and you've just lost not only your property but the money that was 'paid' for it.
Question: how do you sell something without being left open to paying out large sums to a tacky American conglomerate and being defrauded as well?
Answer: keep well clear of eBay, the online auction site for eMorons everywhere.
It shouldn't even be allowed to operate in the UK considering the illegality of its unfair terms and conditions (as per above.)
David Harville, eBay's former director of global resiliency, pleaded guilty this week to five felony counts of participating in a plan to harass and intimidate journalists who were critical of the online auction business.
Harville is the last of seven former eBay employees/contractors charged by the US Justice Department to have admitted participating in a 2019 cyberstalking campaign to silence Ina and David Steiner, who publish the web newsletter and website EcommerceBytes.
Former eBay employees/contractors Philip Cooke, Brian Gilbert, Stephanie Popp, Veronica Zea, and Stephanie Stockwell previously pleaded guilty. Cooke last July was sentenced to 18 months behind bars. Gilbert, Popp, Zea and Stockwell are currently awaiting sentencing.
A now-former eBay security director accused of harassing a couple who wrote a critical newsletter about the internet tat bazaar is set to plead guilty to cyberstalking.
Five of them pleaded guilty; Baugh and David Harville, eBay's now-ex-director of global resiliency, denied the allegations and were due to go on trial.
United States president Joe Biden has announced his intention to nominate former HPE and eBay CEO Meg Whitman as Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to the Republic of Kenya.
The Biden administration's announcement of the planned nomination reminds us that Whitman has served as CEO of eBay, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, and Quibi. Whitman also serves on the boards of Procter & Gamble, and General Motors.
The announcement doesn't remind readers that Whitman has form as a Republican politician – she ran for governor of California in 2010, then backed the GOP's Mitt Romney in his 2008 and 2012 bids for the presidency. She later switched political allegiance and backed the presidential campaigns of both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
A couple from the US who run a small ecommerce publication have launched legal action against eBay accusing the company of a "coordinated effort to intimidate, threaten to kill, torture, terrorize, stalk and silence" them to muzzle their coverage.
The allegations – made in a complaint lodged in the US District Court of Massachusetts this week – are the latest chapter in a long-running case that has already resulted in guilty pleas from a number of former employees in what has become known as the "eBay cyberstalking case".
Lawyers acting on behalf of the owners of EcommerceBytes – an online trade publication that covers the ecommerce industry run by journalists Ina and David Steiner - said the intimidation was so bad they were in fear for their lives.
Two senior eBay executives who have refused to join their colleagues and plead guilty to charges of cyberstalking have been hit with a string of fresh charges.
James Baugh, 45, was eBay senior director of safety and security, and David Harville, 48, was its director of global resiliency when they were arrested back in June, along with four other eBay employees accused of stalking and intimidating a married couple who published a newsletter for the ecommerce industry that was critical of eBay.
Both Baugh and Harville were charged with conspiracy to commit cyberstalking and conspiracy to tamper with witnesses. But despite their colleagues admitting waging a campaign against the couple – which included sending disturbing items such as a preserved fetal pig, a bloody pig Halloween mask and a book on surviving the loss of a spouse to their home address – both execs maintain they are innocent.
Four of the seven former eBay employees charged with cyberstalking a couple critical of the web auction house are scheduled to plead guilty next month.
In June, the US Justice Department charged six former staffers – director of safety and security James Baugh, 45, of San Jose, California; director of global resiliency David Harville, 48, of New York City; manager of global intelligence Stephanie Stockwell, 26, of Redwood City, California; and eBay Global Intelligence Center staffers Stephanie Popp, 32, Veronica Zea, 26, and Brian Gilbert, 51, all of San Jose – with conspiring to commit cyberstalking and tamper with witnesses.
The US Attorney's Office of Massachusetts on Wednesday said four former eBay employees charged in that case plan to admit guilt at a video conference hearing scheduled for October 8, 2020.
The Feds have secured another guilty plea in the eBay cyberstalking case where former employees of the online auction house targeted and harassed a couple who were critical of the company in their ecommerce newsletter.
Philip Cooke, 55, oversaw eBay’s security operations in Europe and Asia and was a former police captain in Santa Clara, California. He pleaded guilty this week to conspiracy to commit cyberstalking and conspiracy to tamper with witnesses.
Cooke, based in San Jose, was just one of seven employees, including one manager, accused of targeting a married couple living on the other side of the United States, in Massachusetts, because they didn’t like their criticisms of eBay in the newsletter.
Second-hand tat bazaar eBay was unavailable for some UK users this week, after Virgin Media and TalkTalk mistakenly blacklisted the site’s CDN in their parental control filtering software.
The error was spotted by UK digital civil liberties watchdog, The Open Rights Group, which estimated the problem affected between 20 and 30 per cent of Virgin Media and Talk Talk customers, and lasted at least three days.
We've heard it all before – tot addicted to crappy freemium game on Daddy's iPad runs up £3,000 bill from in-app purchases, Dad whinges to local newspaper.
However, our cynical hearts go out to the father whose six-year-old son splashed £19,000 through his PayPal account – on an actual, real-life monster truck.
Mohammad Faraji, from Wallsend in North Tyneside, England, told ChronicleLive that he's now being chased by debt collectors over a piece of extreme engineering that he never wanted nor has the means to pay for.
Unlike arch-rival Amazon, eBay has assured the 300,000 third parties that use its online marketplaces it will continue to absorb the UK government's Digital Services Tax (DST) rather than pass it on.
From April, large multinationals that generate revenue via social media platforms, search engines or web souks were ordered to pay a 2 per cent tax on turnover in Britain. Last week, Amazon said it could no longer afford to pay that tax on behalf of the sellers that use its sales arena.
eBay, however, is clearly trying to exploit that to win favour, and who could blame them: "eBay is one of the marketplaces which will have to pay the new tax – and a lot of you have asked whether we at eBay will be passing on this tax to our sellers in the form of new fees.
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