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GPS maker TomTom hit back at Microsoft yesterday by issuing a countersuit against the software giant with a patent claim of its own. The move follows Redmond’s decision last month to sue the Dutch manufacturer for infringement of eight Microsoft patents. TomTom filed the countersuit in the US District Court for the Eastern …


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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton


    I hope Microsoft lose, go bankrupt and the world uses Apple.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Tom tom fights fire with fire

    Pretty much as expected, Tom Tom has a lot of patents in that area, Microsoft and its licensees are late into that market and hence would lose any patent war against them. I'd expect Tom Tom to pursue Microsoft licensees now also.

    I think Microsoft seriously overestimated the impact their lawsuit would have on Tom Tom, I think it was opportunist, and timed to drive their shareprice down, but ultimately it just focussed attention on how undervalued Tom2 stock was, and hence failed to drive the price down and hence failed to force them to default on their loan covenants, .....

    They were at 3.16 when the Microsoft lawsuit against them was announced, they're now 3.43, slightly up.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Yeah! stick it to the man!

    in this case man is a very liberal term.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Gates Horns

    go Tom Tom!

    Out of court settlement or an actual suit against the Linux kernel next?

  5. Eponymous Cowherd

    Suing me, Suing you

    That is all that we can do.....

    Sorry Björn.

  6. Geoff Mackenzie

    Best of luck to 'em

    Much as I'm generally opposed to software patents, I'm pro TomTom here.

  7. Humph

    Go TomTom!

    I sure hope they win.

    I wish them the best of British and/or Dutch luck.

  8. Anonymous Coward

    Before we get into this one

    let's please first settle the Sun - NetApps lawsuit/countersuit.

    This is just too much excitement for the watching public.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton

    Initiated by legal beagles?

    Seems a bit like petulant children to me: won't talk? can't talk?

  10. Steven Jones


    "and the world uses Apple"

    Yes, that well known company that has never hidden behind the use of patented or copyrighted technology in order to protect its own interests. After all, you can readily buy third party hardware to run their system software, play iTunes files on other MP3 player, use the iPhone on any network, easily get third party parts to fix Macbooks. What you mean you can't...

  11. mike

    Give 'em hell TomTom

    I love my TomTom

  12. cor

    Aaah the mongoose bites the cobra.

    Did MS not stop to think about the patents TomTom own, and the fact that it owns just about every digital mapping software company in the world?

    GoogleMaps relies on TomTom mapping subsidiaries such as TelsAtlas for example.

    Hmmn I just wonder did they bother to check their fudmachine before going in to this battle..

    Hope they get their ass kicked.

    Sort out this MS FUD about Linux for once and for all.

  13. Lager And Crisps

    ...cue joke about a plane!

    Damn software patents, two wrongs don't make a right.

  14. adnim
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    @Steven Jones

    I don't often feel smug, thanks.

    I don't use Apple products.

  15. Gordon Crawford
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    I'm doing the "go-go Tom -Tom" dance.

    can i patent this dance?

    ps whats happening with the EU vs. M$ suit?

  16. Havin_it

    RE: Aaah the mongoose bites the cobra.

    Er, isn't that what mongooses (mongeese?) normally do?

    /metaphor police

  17. Anonymous Coward


    Plural is Mongosses. Although Merriam Webster's claims Mongeese is acceptable, but only because people don't know the etymology of the word Mongoose. There is also a school of though that claims Mongoose is both the singular and plural form, but that is a grammatical argument that I just don't have the time or energy to get into :-).

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton

    Now here's a thought?

    I suppose Tom Tom has shareholders (if not skip the text below)

    It seems reasonable for shareholders to:

    + demand that senior managers exhaust all avenues before taking on what might be vexatious litigation

    + keep shareholders updated on a daily basis of how talks are progressing (one side of A4 summary (max) with links to original documents or correspondence, minutes, ... )

    + reasonably expect senior managers to avoid costly actions now that most organisations have been throttled badly by *anking sector follies

  19. Anonymous Coward

    Microsoft's mapping software has British roots ...

    Long before TomTom, way back in 1988 in fact, there was a British software company called NextBase that pretty much created the European route planning and mapping software market with 'Autoroute' and was #1 in the USA with 'Automap'. Microsoft bought them in 1994.

    NextBase was a great example of British innovation. It was also one of the more successful acquisitions by Microsoft given that the technology they acquired is still shipping today!!

  20. Mectron

    Patents definition

    Way for Greedy company to STEAL money from one and another.

    The seriously flawed US patents laws are completly borken.

    How about the US goverment sueing microsoft (and will at it the MPAA/RIAA) for abusing the US justice system?

    Patents DOES NOTHING to help innovation and progress.

  21. Ru

    Re: the world uses Apple

    I most sincerely hope not. Apple have been dreaming about being a globe-spanning, high-margin monopoly for a long, long time. Quite frankly, if MS suddenly vanished today, you'd be more likely to see commercial linux distributions step in. People like their cheap, commodity hardware, after all; we can't all afford to have overpriced status symbols even if we'd like one.

    Oh, and @Havin_it:

    The plural of mongoose is clearly polygoose.

  22. Anonymous Coward
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    @Steven Jones

    Seems you're quite out of date with some of your info...

    iTunes is now DRM-free and the files can be played on any AAC (not an Apple format - also used by Nokia, Sony Ericsson and thousands of digital music players) device.

    You can use the iPhone on any mobile network where there are no operator exclusive deals (and those deals are not limited to the iPhone), or just get it unlocked like thousands of people do with other operator locked phones. This is not an iPhone issue, it's a mobile industry issue.

  23. Tom

    Ooh! Ooh! Lawyers at 20 paces!

    And the winner will be....









    The lawyers.

    Oh, well.

  24. BioTube

    @Anonymous mactard

    Apple still actively prevents its software from running on other PCs and other software from using the Ipod.

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