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Microsoft is working on an update to its unified comms software, uninspiringly dubbed Office Communications Server 2007 R2. The upcoming release is currently in private beta, and customers won’t be able to part with their hard-earned, credit-crunched cash for the software until February 2009 – if Microsoft RTMs on time, that …

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  1. IGnatius T Foobar
    Linux

    Who wants this crap?

    Seriously, why does Microsoft expect people want this crap? There's nothing in there that can't be done with an open source Citadel server and an open source Asterisk server.

  2. Simon Painter

    @Who wants this crap?

    Because Asterix varies in stability from one version to the next and the support options are shit. We have it at work and can't wait to rip it out.

  3. prathlev
    Unhappy

    @Who wants this crap?

    I'll tell you who want's it: Management. Someone at our establishment is pushing this out as we speak, and I wouldn't call them hackers. I guess the right sales people got hold of them. Projects like these tend to come from upstairs, not from a bunch of technicians who's thought of something smart. :-)

  4. Ian
    Thumb Down

    re: Who wants this crap

    In answer to who wants this crap a large number of CIO's unfortunately! It seems that Microsoft always have a queue of willing victims who will pony up large amounts of cash for the latest dross released from Redmond regardless of whether their business needs or will benefit from its new "features". The usual rules of cost benefit analysis etc just don't seem to apply when firms purchase software from Microsoft. The fact that almost everything that Microsoft sells can be done with cheaper and in most cases better alternatives never seems to be considered.

  5. Trevor

    LCS/OCS

    We have been using Live Communications Server since LCS 2005 (pre-sp1) and are currently sitting on the SP1 version. I haven't had a chance to toy with 2007 outside of a test lab.

    The reality is, it's a clean, simple messaging product, and, (here's the kicker) integrates with outlook. Now, the hardcore Open Saucers amongst you will cry out in pain at the thought of Outlook, but, tragically, I have yet to see a viable business-class alternative to Outlook/Exchange.

    So, that in mind, LCS integrates nicely with outlook, and lets me use these cool "tab" things. The cool "tab" things are little more than an IE window available as a "tab" on the bottom of the communicator that displays a website. It does, however, offer a bloody fantastic way of pushing out a thin version of the corporate Intranet.

    Oh, and links to all the relevant corporate files, parsed, of course, based on the user that is logged into that copy of Office Communicator. Which allows for a lovely single-sign-on to most corporate intranet services all based on that little "tab" in communicator. (And the fact that communicator passes the logon info as a POST item to my PHP scripts.)

    Now, proper security has users re-authenticate for sensitive areas, and a bunch of other items, but it does cut down on the day-to-day bits the drones have to worry about. All they really have to remember is their windows logon and password, and for most people, they will only have to use it when they log in during the morning, or when they have been away from their desk long enough for the screen saver to lock them out. They never have to be confused by using their "windows password" for other services. (Which confuses most of them greatly.)

    Communicator has always served it's purposes for internal communications, and the little "save as e-mail" feature is a godsend, for those of us who use our inbox as our "todo" list.

    Honestly, try before you buy, but I have found that instant messengers have a place in the corporate environment, and this particular client/server package has proved it's value to our small business a hundred times over. We've only 4 stores in four cities, and maybe 50 staff, but it's worth the dosh to splash on this.

    Oh, and this project did come from IT and no, I am not a Microsoft shill. We actually only use MS in "communications and legacy apps" VMs for our users, and the appropriate directory servers. The rest is Linux. Microsoft makes a LOT of crap, (Vista, Office 2007, I'm looking at you,) but they do have the odd gem. Live Communications Server is one of those.

  6. Roger Greenwood

    RTM

    I always thought RTM meant "return to maker/manufacturer" or "read the manual" (later RTFM of course). Perhaps you did mean that . . . . . .

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