Hmmm
What are the odds of that eh? Two to the...
Fans of Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy are likely to react strongly to the announcement that Artemis Fowl author Eoin Colfer has been given the green light to write a sixth book in the series - 16 years after the release of Mostly Harmless. According to the BBC, the project - entitled And Another Thing..., and …
I don't really know why this is happening, but maybe DA's widow is running short of funds?
Whatever the outcome I can't see how Eoin will be able to replicate Douglas's view of the universe. As I get older, I discover that so many of his thoughts turn out to be true or very nearly so. It's clear to me that the universe has vanished and been replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable, possibly several times and especially after a UK general election has been held.
Perhaps Mr Colfer needs some Vogon poetry read to him while he's trying to concentrate on writing....
and I have this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left hand side.
No disrespect for Mr Coifer, but in fifty years reading science fiction I haven't come across a single instance[1] where alternate authors have used the original author's characters and made it work as well as the original. No reason to think it would be any better on t'radio, either...
My word, what are all those 'creatives' in the BBC doing? Aren't we paying them to come up with ideas? Not deja vu...
[1] where authors share a world, under the strict guidelines of the original author, it *sometimes* comes out readable.
Alien, because sometimes even Paris can't multiply six by nine...
News obviously hasn't reached the publisher that the big DA is in fact dead and not merely out to lunch (missing presumed fed). I know that he had a thing for missing deadlines but really, he is not going to wander back in and put in a good afternoons work he's dead, gone, its really best not to think about it.
I bet that the boardroom at whatever publishing house it is, is full of people trying to decide what colour the new book will be.
I think that DA himself was fed up of the series, looking at the ending of Mostly Harmless he hardly left room for a follow up, having destroyed the Earth and its inhabitants in every concievable dimension throughout history. It's a wonderful cult fiction series and should respectfully remain so forever dredging it up in order to make money from the name is just wrong. Was the film not dire enough? Really? I mean honestly....just......BELGIUM is all I will say.
Aside from that all HHG fans should just pray.....anyone know any good religions?
Fans of ....are likely to react strongly to the announcement...
we hope they'll buy it, no matter how much we charge
...and slated for publication in October 2009 ...
just in time for the american holidays and full-priced christmas sales in the UK
...has the "full support" of Adam's widow Jane Belson. ...
who is already looking through the latest Mercedes catalog.
... My first reaction was semi-outrage ...
then I saw the size of the advance they were offering
.... I feel more pressure to perform now
so I can go for another one after this
... having sold around 16 million copies worldwide
and times are tough - with luck I'll be able to chuck this writing lark
and retire
better left alone. This is one of them.
I hope it doesn't turn out like the many other follow-ups to great works by now deceased authors (The 'Dune' series, James Bond series, to name a couple), tarnishing the memory of these great works.
I've read the Artemis Fowl Books (yes, I KNOW they're aimed at kids, but DILLIGAF), and Eoin Colfer is a talented writer, but for pity's sake, leave well alone.
Considering Mr Adams didn't want to write fourth book, let alone a fifth, I fail to see how Mr Coilfer can justify his enthusiasm. How is he going to recreate the universe to repopulate it with our favourite characters without Arthur waking up to find Patrick Duffy in the shower? Let's milk these suckers for money whilst I crimp one off into Douglas's coffin.
So is this sixth book going to be entirely clean slate in terms of the existing drafts for a 'potential sixth hitchhikers book, or a dirk gently novel' which were published in Salmon of Doubt, or will it be based around some of the aforementioned partially started work?
I think I'll have to buy this just so I can have an opinion on it...
Steven R
I doubt anyone can actually replace Douglas Adams, or imitate his style, any more that you could Terry Pratchett's or any of many other loved authors, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't build on their ideas and world with your own.
I'm personally looking forward to seeing how you follow up on "So Long and Thanks for all the Fish". Perhaps we could even have a new Dirk Gently.
So long as Eoin doesn't try to be Douglas Adams and develops the character with his own style, we could have some good reads.
Go for it.
Doesn't he write kids books? Isn't that a bit like asking JK Rowling to write something original and interesting? To be fair though, mostly harmless wasn't exactly brilliant was it? Exhume Douglas, add a bit of necromancy and get him writing the 3rd Dirk Gently novel, I gotta fever and I need more Thor (or Cowbell).
Douglas Adams closed off all possibility of the series continuing in Mostly Harmless; in all realities, that was the entire point! My Juvenilise a very good series of books I ask?
Leave it where it naturally ended and that should be that.
I won't be buying this book personally because as far as I'm concerned, Douglas Adams ended the series once and for all......this author should hang up his typewriter and leave the dead in peace
Why resurrect this completed series? Seriously, it should be left alone. I suppose this Colfer chap seems to have the right attitude, but it's still unnecessary.
Nobody better try to do this to the Discworld series, once Pratchett eventually succumbs to his alzheimer's, or else I'm going to be really pissed.
Vol 5 was pretty ropey, IMO, and it's entirely possible that Colfer'll make a decent fist of it. Of course it's also possible that as soon as he types the first word, he'll suffer a total existence failure, that the vacuum created by the improbability will cause the solar system to compress to the size of a shaddock, and that the sun will be eaten by a small iguana. Still, worse things happen at sea, eh? Drink up...
...someone to finish the Dirk Gently novel that we read a bit of in The Salmon of Doubt.
H2G2 is complete and doesn't require anymore input - all of the loose ends have been tied up: "Options collapsed, possibilities folded into each other, and the whole at last resolved itself out of existence."
Russell the Crowe to play Bill Hicks. Some bloke to write another Hitchhiker book. It some bird related plot to take over the things we love. First a Crow now some foul Fowl thing. I'll be pulling their dead bodies out of the wire mesh on the landdrover windscreen before this is over I know I will. Is that the sound of bombs or of jets crashing?
Adams had planned on doing a 6th H2G2 book as 'Mostly Harmless' was somewhat influenced by a relationship going titsup, and he wanted to make it up to the fans by having a less depressing end to the trilogy.
After all, Arthur Dent had a hard enough fictional life, without his creator taking out his frustrations upon him too.
So whilst I'm wary, I'll give it a chance.
Hmmmm, I think the fifth book was pushing it, was a big of teh 5th book at all.
If it was a Dirk Gentle book I would be more interested.
I was dissapointed with the film, I cnat see this being any different.
I didnt mind the salmon of doubt, i wasnt interested in t he semi started book, but in the collection of DNA's other writtings.
If they need to make money, how about actual reprinting some of the old stuff that you cant get anymore, like "last chance to see", I would love a copy of this, it was just so wonderfully written.
Sigh
The reason why the Trilogy was so good is that DA sweated over every single word of it. He was obsessional about getting things to read right (that's why the Radio series is so good) - not many authors will do this.
How can you better this (read it in Peter Jones' voice):
"Several billion tons of exploding Hydrogen nuclei rose above the horizon and succeeded in looking small, cold, and slightly damp"
Sounds like Wales to me!
Remember, one book he typeset himself on his Mac, and found himself re-writing sentences to make them lay out more pleasingly on the page. That obsessional.
Would somebody please, feed the Author, manuscript and the Suit responsible for this dreadful idea to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Trall...?
Failing that... steal the manuscript, lock it in a filing cabinet, lock the filing cabinet in a disused lavatory, stick a sign on the door saying beware of the leopard and finally remove the light.
This by the way is just culture shock... wait till I get my bearings, then i'll start complaining...
Paris... because she has a terrible pain in all the diodes down her left hand side...
I may be miss reading, but in a section he is quoted trying to deny he invented the internet (at least in concept) when clearly he did, in his efforts to distract from the subject in hand, he pretty much invented what we would now call an Iphone 3G. It's not a massive leap of logic to liken H2G2 to Wikipedia I guess either.
Sure, 2001 wasn't that long ago, but we were still some way off mobile internet devices with GPS built in.
It would also appear from the comments in here that he also predicted a posthumos cash in on his creations and tried to ensure he burnt every bridge possible to prevent it from happening.
As he was a ardent athiest, I can only hope that he isn't looking down on it all with disgust, and is in fact just dead.
Just for the record.
The original story was a radio show, which has the dubious honor of having both the first publication, and in the more recent radio continuation, the last publication of the story.
The radio series continues beyond the destruction of all the parallel earths by the guide 2.0....
It is not exactly giving it away that there is the basis for a continuation. It is though pointless as you will never get the style right. A book about an ancillary character maybe.
Its like putting a ronnie on the Mona Lisa. Leave it the fuck alone.
Colfers is not Qualified to do this on many fronts. Adams and Colfer Share the same agent and this is the result. I happen to know Colfer and did Know Adams (both loosely). Colfer is no Adams. Thats for sure. Eions books for kids are fine, But this is not a kids book and it requires a complex mind and understanding of Scifi and Science. Not to mention narcotics. It also need someone who have suffererd from depression over the years to write. Im horrified, Is Mrs Adams needed a few quid she could have tapped the fans in other ways. This seems to be a totally mercanary effort.
No I've lost my towel.
... and finally remove the light. And the stairs.
I total agree. Bad, bad idea. Don't do it. Please !
The film was so bad I almost walked out (decided to come back for the wife and son !). No one can do Hitchhikers like DNA. Leave it alone.
Mine's the one with the electronic thumb in the pocket.
I guess he'll take up the story from where it finishes in the radio adaptation of Mostly Harmless. In order to be not quite so depressing, the ending changed - or, at least, extended... It was a bit deus ex machina, but it was a happier ending.
I'm in two minds about whether this is a good idea, I'm even more ambivalent about the choice of author (never read the Artemis Fowl books as they never appealed) but as I'm sure they'll go ahead despite the fan-base's reservations I'll reserve judgement until the piece is produced.
I just hope that they don't end up having to release a statement, post-publication, along the lines of the title...
Here's what I quoted when I found out about this:
"You barbarians! I'll sue the council for every penny it's got! I'll have you hung, drawn, and quartered! And whipped! And boiled! Until... until... until you've had enough. And then I will do it again! And when I've finished I will take all the little bits, and I will JUMP on them! And I will carry on jumping on them until I get blisters, or I can think of anything even more unpleasant to do..."
At least Eoin had the decency to feel mild outrage at first. I personally wouldn't want to be known as the guy who dug up this storyline's grave and desecrated it, but perhaps he figured if he didn't do it, they'd get someone else who would, and he didn't want that on his conscience either. (Because let's face it, if he'd said "no", the publishers wouldn't have gone, "Oh, well, that's that, I suppose.")
Here's what I quoted when I found out about this:
"You barbarians! I'll sue the council for every penny it's got! I'll have you hung, drawn, and quartered! And whipped! And boiled! Until... until... until you've had enough. And then I will do it again! And when I've finished I will take all the little bits, and I will JUMP on them! And I will carry on jumping on them until I get blisters, or I can think of anything even more unpleasant to do..."
At least Eoin had the decency to feel mild outrage at first. I personally wouldn't want to be known as the guy who dug up this storyline's grave and desecrated it, but perhaps he figured if he didn't do it, they'd get someone else who would, and he didn't want that on his conscience either. (Because let's face it, if he'd said "no", the publishers wouldn't have gone, "Oh, well, that's that, I suppose.")
> How do you continue the series when all the characters bar Zaphod are dead?
They're not. You didn't listen to the radio series in completion, did you?
Yes, I'm aware of "The Salmon of Doubt" too. It doesn't count as it appears to be a Dirk Gently novel.
In any case, Like many others I'll approach this with a wait and see. I do enjoy the trilogy (or pentalogy, if that's a valid word), and sadly, I kinda liked the movie too (I actually bought the soundtrack CD and put a copy of it on my MP3 player which I listen to every now and then). I also agree that Terry Pratchett would probably be a better choice for this project. Heck, I don't even like the name Artemis Foul!
Thumb. Because apparently the effects of the LHC, which includes the disruption of time, space and all sensibilities of mankind, is starting to manifest itself. Still, I'll wait and see.
I like Artemis Fowl. I love HHGG. But I just can't see Coifer doing the job properly; his style just isn't in it.
There is only one author that IMHO could *possibly* step up to the plate: Jasper Fforde. The style of writing in The Eyre Affair et al is very much like Adams'.
Fforde definitely has the imagination and the scope to do it justice, but I can't see how either he or Coifer could pull it off unless they pull a Lucas and reinvent some of the details.
but even Marvin isn't THAT paranoid to write a new book
I think that both Belson and Colfer have been drinking one too many pan-galactic gargle blasters and have started up that bloody computer again to re-calculate the meaning of life, the universe and everything monetary (yes, it ran windows 98 second edition if you MUST know!)
After being suckered and buying the new Dune abominations, there's no way I'll buy this. Maybe I'll download it, but I'm really not interested - It's not written by DNA, therefore it can't be a hitchhiker book. Not interested. This abomination is not getting my money.
I wouldn't be suprised if they approached Terry Pratchet first, he does seem like the logical choice, but unfortunately for their bank accounts Terry had a modicum of integrity and told them no.
@ "It's not a massive leap of logic to liken H2G2 to Wikipedia I guess either."
Where it's inaccurate, it is at least "definitively inaccurate"
The truely awful tome that is starship titanic. Set in the H2G2 universe, this book went along side the monumentally champion game, but was written by Monty Pythons Terry Jones.
This books existance upsets me. I've never hated reading a book so much in my life, other than maybe the bible, and im a SERIOUSLY huge DNA fan.
Poor chap, h2g2 episode 6 will never ever be accepted because DNA isnt here to give approval.
However, we all know we'll all buy it. Blatantly need to know how much it sucks for ourselves.
Paris because even she disgrees with this book.
"maybe DA's widow is running short of funds?"
I'm sure that's the only reason. It's a ghastly idea, so stupid it could have come from the mind of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal itself. I bear the would-be author no ill-will, but I hope that this abomination ends up rotting like a pair of fetid dingo kidneys on the desk of the Complaints Division. To the would-be publishers, all I have to say is SHARE AND ENJOY, or at least the top half of that phrase.
It was plain that by the end of "Mostly Harmless", DA was kackered, pissed-off and sick of just cranking the handle.
In "So Long and Thanks For All the Fish", he snipes briefly at authors who pad their text with tedious, superflous description. In "Mostly Harmless", he was doing this himself, in great, inelegant, indigestible chunks. I reckon he just wanted to:
a) Hit the word count
...and...
b) Wrap the whole thing up in a non-resurrectable manner and move onto something new.
Maybe, a new author, not being so jaded, *could* inject some fresh thinking, and that might not be such a bad thing... But, I do feel that the whole thing has been done to death, especially by the originator, so the main good that will come will be in the form of royalty cheques to the Colfer fellow & the DA estate.
My vote, on the whole, is to let it lie.
Actually i quite liked Starship Titanic - at least it did not pretend to be a H2G2 book, simple set amongst a thrown-away plot line.
I'm bemused by some of the comments here. The BBC already tweaked the plot line of "Mostly Harmless" to provide a happy ending yet i did not hear too much outrage at that.
I for one will be keeping an open mind on this. Yes, i probably will buy the book out of sheer curiosity, but i will not cast judgement upon it until i have read it.
As for the suggestions that 'Lord' Pratchett should be the chosen author...I would much prefer he focus what remaining time he has on Discworld.
Ok so you're going to have a tough time believing this but the universe ended long ago and all survived was a hologram that subsisted purely on human imagination. It is now fading and flickering as we run out of ideas - globally. Look at the cinema. All we seem to be getting is rehashing, extending and re-interpreting the wonders of old. All Marvel characters have been resurrected, some of these many times over. The classics, written ages ago by truly creative people, have been turned into film because hardly anyone can dream up a new storyline any more. Richard Matheson's masterpiece 'I am legend' became a film, then another 2 (the 28 days/months duo) that didn't even acknowledge the original.
Now we try to revive the DNA legacy by resorting to a living (all a hologram though, remember?) writer, albeit a very capable one. I know I'll read it because although I knew the Hollywood movie of H2G2 would be shite I needed a fix. I confirmed that it was terrible when I paid to see it but still went out and bought the DVD when it was released. Some fans are sick/suckers in that way. It won't be long now. When the last original idea runs out the whole place will vanish without so much as a Big Un-bang. In this and other realities.
If you can't succeed something, precede it. Maybe the new book will be a sort of prequel to the story, possibly similar to 'Young Zaphod Plays it Safe'. In any event the great publishing house of Encyclopedia Galatica will be employing Dirk Gently to keep an eye on things.
I wish the book good luck - if it's not very good it won't sell very well. Simple.
Colfer is claiming to be a fan of the series and of DNA.
If you are a fan and know anything about DNA you would know that he ended the series and didn't want to write anymore and there shouldn't anymore.
And no one, NOT ONE single writer in the entire history of the world can recreate or even come close to DNA's writing. I hope the people who decided that this book (and not the digital watches) are a good a idea, will get their ar*es handed to them on a fiery stick.
Basically this would be the reason I'd actually buy a sixth H2G2 book. I just didn't like the 6th book, it wasn't that DA was tired of the series, it was more about DA being in "Marvin mode" when he wrote Mostly Harmless. Too bad the 6th one (NOT a Dirk Gentle book, even DA said it!) didn't quite make it before DA's death...
wHollyWeird has already realised that it can make easy money out of revising hits and cult classics. You don't need to put any effort into thinking up new ideas and even the disapproving fans will have a look if only because they will want to be able to say "I saw it, and it was crap". All that the Beeb and company are doing is following the Merkan example.
Heh