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Mozilla has released the second alpha of Firefox 3.1 a week after Google unveiled its shiny new browser, Chrome. The latest advance version of the Mozilla Foundation’s upcoming browser is codenamed “Shiretoko”, and is intended for trailblazing software developers and testers only. Meanwhile, the so-called “code freeze”, or …


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  1. Alastair Smith
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    I can already drag and drop tabs between browser windows. Maybe I'm already using the alpha without realising it.

  2. Unlimited
    Dead Vulture

    "redmonds huge market share"

    define: "huge"

    IE7 is getting destroyed by FF

    IE6 is dying

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @Alastair Smith

    No you can't. You can only drag URLs to existing tabs. The original tab stays there, and you don't create a new tab where you drop it either.

  4. Rob


    Because of course a site that is dedicated to Web Designers is gonna show a really fair assessment of Browser usage


  5. Nic Brough

    @Alastair Smith @ Anonymous Coward

    >No you can't. You can only drag URLs to existing tabs. The original tab stays there, and you don't create a new tab where you drop it either.

    Umm, no, he's right, you can drag tabs to other instances, I've been doing it for months. Firefox 3.0x - open two copies of Firefox, open 2 tabs in each one (for clarity, make sure all 4 tabs are different sites). Drag a tab from Firefox(1) into Firefox(2), and the net result is Firefox(1) has 1 tab, and Firefox(2) has 3 tabs.

    However, *you have to drop the tab onto the tab bar* Dropping the tab onto the browser page causes the behaviour you describe

    Mine's the coat with the middle of the fence in the pocket.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton


    Oh yes you can... drag the tabs to a new window works fine in FF 3.0.1 - as long as you have the tabs bar visible on the target window.

    Paris because she checks her pantomime costume

  7. Anonymous Coward

    @Alastair, @Nic

    Do you mean to imply that a journalist made a statement without trying to verify his facts?

    Recall the recent journalistic furor around the release of Google's "new" browser, notable only for its inability to block Google's ads.

    I could point a finger at journalists and make faces and shout rude names. However, it's not like this is a new phenomenon. Frankly, I'm probably an even bigger fool for constantly being disappointed.

  8. Ray

    Drag and Drop

    Apparently drag and drop will not reload the tab when dropped onto the new window as it does in 3.0

  9. Anonymous Coward


    ff will finally get quicker, we know it's possible courtesy of google.

    Mines the one with the disabled javascript badge

  10. Quirkafleeg

    @ @Alastair Smith @ Anonymous Coward

    Actually, it's *one* instance with two windows.

  11. Dougal


    Genius, I thought the Reg had forgotten about this word... the last time I read it was when you decided Wonk was the word for www...

    ahh good times spent wasting my life reading reg articles....

  12. Nic Brough

    @@@Alastair Smith

    >Do you mean to imply that a journalist made a statement without trying to verify his facts?

    I would never dare to suggest that ;-) Maybe it was just a quick skim of the press releases?

    >Actually, it's *one* instance with two windows.

    Very true. Is that how Chrome handles it too? They claim one tab = one thread which would be nice, especially if it's one container app, like Firefox

    Shame I can't try it (no windows box at home, work blocked install)

  13. Charlie Clark Silver badge

    Playing in catch-up again?


    Nearly a year ago. Conclusion: Opera users get there faster.

  14. Steve


    Well, let's hope that they make that crappy new URL bar optional, fix the postscript printing on Solaris/Linux, and get the performance back to snuff, else I'm staying on FF2.

    I didn't realise how slow FF3 was until I went back to FF2 because of the first two problems, and boy did FF seem fast :(

  15. David Hayes


    Straw poll, how many non-developers know or more importantly care to install a different browser to IE.... I'd argue not that many. How many non-developers are going to visit w3schools.... I'd argue not that many...

    "Anyway, our data, collected from W3Schools' log-files, over a five year period, clearly shows the long and medium-term trends"

    Go to a football match at Wembley, between say ManU and Chelsea, and carry out a straw poll of people outside the grounds who their favourite team is. 45% ManU, 45% Chelsea, 10% other. Now ask the whole country, and get a much more different, and more RELEVANT statistic...

    Statistics are dangerous, because people use them to misrepresent facts.

  16. Anonymous Coward

    @Nic Brough

    Chrome is actually one *process* per tab, plus a process for the tab manager, plus a process for add-ins.

    It gives all the isolation that a process offers but it's a huge overhead when browsing many tabs - especially cos a lot of tabs will just contain an image/attachment/simple html page.

    I would have liked to see something like the .NET AppDomain model but I'm not sure of how cross-platform that would be....

  17. David Hayes

    Javascript updates

    Maybe I'm missing the ball here, but according to, the 3.1 trunk was supposed to include native code compilation for JS. Running 3.1 alpha is just as slow on SunSpider tests as 3.0.

    Ho hum, uninstall Shiretoko for me then!

  18. John Werner

    But I still can't see...

    That's great news, but until they fix the issue with screen updates failing on super high resolution displays with multi-monitors (monitor 1 = 2048x1536, monitor 2 = 1280x800) on Windows, It's still FF2 for me.

    On my linux boxen, it's FF3.

  19. Thomas Steven

    I thought it was just me

    I have the sucky multi monitors problem as well (monitor 1=1900x1200, monitor 2 1600x1200), and went back to FF2.

  20. Nigel Jones

    enable jit

    Not sure if the new alpha has the jit -- to check go to "about:config" and then type "jit" in the filter. You may be able to enable it, just off by default.

    A little buggy too from the dev builds I'm trying, but fast.

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