...to release an expensive SCC. Maybe it should be called a SEC? Well at least you're paying for their rock-solid reliability, excellent customer service and legendary returns policy. Oh wait a minute...
Dell has launched the Inspiron Mini 9, as expected. Alas, it's not as cheap as previous rumours suggested. The 1.04kg Mini 9 sports the 8.9in, 1024 x 600 display; 1.6GHz Intel Atom N270 processor; 1GB of DDR 2 memory; Intel 945 chipset with GMA 950 graphics; trio of USB ports; VGA out; 802.11b/g Wi-Fi; Ethernet; and 1.3- …
For the limited uses I have in mind for a device like this (something to sit on the couch/in bed with; browse the web and do a spot of typing on), it *has* to be cheap. Not interested in excess storage, a windows licence, designer looks or anything else that drives the price up. I only spent £220 on a recent major overhaul of my desktop and that machine is a hell of a lot more important to me, than one of these devices would be.
Decent battery, at least 8.9" screen and price around £200. Someone please get it right!
With the original EEE PC at almost half the price on Expansys (£159) and the aspire one available at around £240 I don't think this will be the success many had hoped.
That said it could compete with the XP aspire one and the EEE PC 901 which are both above £300 on the same site.
Shame about the delayed Ubuntu version, personally I feel that an XP license is not cost effective on that kind of machine. My wife bought an XP EEE 900 and I bought a Linux Wind (on which I put Ubuntu) and my machine performs much better than hers. Pretty much all the Linux apps run fine while many of the XP apps seem to struggle at times.
"Ones a phone and ones a computer, they do different jobs. The Dell is just another me too product. Acers new 6 cell aspire one is a much better option in my opinion."
Spec the Acer up to a decent level and it costs around £300. Added to that, the build quality is rubbish, the user interface is uncomfortable, and the keyboard aint overly great either.
Have you seen any of these products before deciding which is best? Perhaps you should, you'd be surprised
Just checked with Dell, it will come with a UK keyboard layout but the 16GB seems a daft amount for me. If I got one I wouldn't be using it to store data on (16GB is too small to keep even all of my MP3s on), it would only be used to browse the web and maybe stream movies and music from my main PC which has big storage. I think I would be happy with 8, or probably even 4. So I am hoping when the Linux version comes out there will be an option to have it on a smaller drive and thus a cheaper price. I'm thinking £200 + delivery would be a good price.
Not much is going to run on this come the end of next year. 200pounds for an obsolete laptop seems a bit steep even if it is small, which is not always a good thing.
Always puzzles me why they don't put the processor behind the screen. Then you can put a decent processor in using the entire (wasted) area of the screen to dissipate thermal energy. Its also not going to be insulated from the air by someone's genitals, something laptop manufacturers have been accused of baking in the past.
Mine's the one with the asbestos apron...
Lot's of people seem to think these SCCs should be a impulse purchase. Sub 200 would be nice but whay should they bother if they can get sales at 270 ish?
Consider the alternatives: Sony Viao etc are all way more than that and often more expensive than ordinary laptops
The way these are bing pushed in incredible.
Acer Aspire One at the front entrance of PC World
Elonex One 10" with Ubuntu from free at Carphone
I'll be interested to see how well XP copes with the SSD in this. Hopefully it'll be a lot faster than either SSD that the Linux AA1 ships with, because there's noticable lag under XP on it unless you're running EWF or Supercache etc. Although I love my AA1, if this is noticably less "freezy" running XP, I might need to get one of these as a replacement.
But still, one is a phone and one is a computer.
Ok, lets compare.
Can run multiple OS's
USB ports for external hardware
External vga, network, etc
No activation needed
Can make phone calls
Also considering phones range from £10-£600 and laptops will range from £160-£2500+
I think considering we are talking about a laptop at the low end of the price range vs a phone at the high end of the price range. The laptop obviously wins as it has more for its money.
But then again, these _are_ 2 different items aren't they?
(I hate Dell mind you)
I have the asus eeepc 901 with XP.
Cracking thing, hooks up via my windows mobile to the 3g network over bluetooth or usb, fits in my satchel along with a book and other odds and sods and the battery.....
The battery can and does last up to about 6 hours, its like having a computer in your pocket with the battery life of a phone..
I can use rdp to hook through to work over a vpn, I can browse the internet or google earth and I can read my emails...
A small 2.5 external drive and I have all of the media I would ever need.... An 8gb SD card (I am cheap) and I have enough local storage to keep me happy..
This isn't about comparing it to a more powerful device, this is about portability and if that is what floats your boat then these devices are just what you need..
Personally I think £300 is cheap for what you get.. I have spent more on shoes, but if you think I am being flash I have also spent less on a car.
...the various 1GB RAM / XP / Atom SCCs...
1/ EEE 901 (£280, ebuyer):
+ve: 6cell 6600mAh beats all comers. Has n Wi-fi. So, so nearly there (but somewhat obscured by the cheaper, inferior 900 range).
-ve: Needs to be £30 cheaper. Fiddly keyboard. 4GB less SSD than Mini 9.
2/ Mini 9 (£300, Dell):
+ve: Decent enough keyboard size. Nice looking (XPS M1330-esque?) touchpad.
-ve: Needs to be £50 cheaper (but free delivery would put it in with a shout of the top spot). Battery of 4+ hours unlikely?
3/ 4211/Medion/Wind (£280, PCW):
+ve: Props for the keyboard. 10" screen.
-ve: Needs to be £30 cheaper, needs SSD instead of 80GB SSD. Needs better battery. Could end up with the dodgy newer touchpad.
NB: PCWB have put the price up from £235 but are still out of stock so that looks like a gone-er)
4/ Aspire One (£280, dabs):
+ve: 'Meldable SD' card slot (if you like that kind of thing). Decent-ish keyboard.
-ve: Needs to be £30 cheaper. Needs a better battery. Has 120GB HDD with no Windows SSD option. Touchpad is small and 'non-standard' (if that matters). No Bluetooth. Difficult to upgrade (apart from 'meldable SD').
5/ IBM ThinkPad X31 (<£250, ebay):
+ve: The price is right!!! Similarly specced. Has dvd. Has 12" screen. Chance of a decent battery.
-ve: Obviously bigger (so not strictly an SCC, if that matters). Chance of a crocked battery. No warranty.
NB: Wildcard entry for those who aren't yet convinced of the merits of an SCC.
ABOUT BLEEDING TIME!
3 usb ports, i think this is a first for the baby laptops..just what i need..it's got a reasonable 16gb SSD (but that should be bigger)...
...now if they could ONLY make the screen res 1024x768 that would be perfect, i'd buy one...so get to it Dell!
tracking this space here:
all welcome! ;)
fyi, here's Dell's page:
"Not much is going to run on this come the end of next year. 200pounds for an obsolete laptop seems a bit steep even if it is small, which is not always a good thing."
Er, at the end of 2009 it'll still run:
Photoshop / Elements 4.x
3DS Max 5
Google Earth Offline 4.x
etc etc etc
What else would you plan on installing?
Maybe someone can explain the pricing on this...
US - $299
UK - £299
France - €369
Germany - €369
Ireland - €399
How the hell can dell charge €399 in Ireland for something that sells in the US for the equivalent of €210. Thats just taking the complete p*ss.
So Mr. Register, any chance you can follow that up with Dell?
The prices I quotted are all from Expansys.co.uk. with United Kingdom selected as my country (so I have UK prices). I looked there because it offers most of the currently available netbooks, so I Thought it would be a fair comparison.
The linux SSD version is actually £235
The HDD version is around £245
Just bought an aspire one, and while pleased with it, it looks like I may prefer the look of the Dell. But then I needed something by next friday, and there's always a new kid on the block (I just wish they'd aimed for back to school).
Anyway, I've got the HDD version of my aspire for £230 from PC World, have put on Vista absolutely no probs from USB, and am tomorrow adding an extra 1GB of ram that cost £14 from Crucial.
Going to be reasonably spec'd.
I seem to remember an ElReg article from a week or two back talking about the new wave of 128 GB SSD devices that are just around the corner (October?).
My usage profile is perhaps a little different from others, I see this sort of device as a spare laptop to carry on the road (my existing machine is great - Toshiba M200 Tablet). Sometimes I dont have access to laptop power (on planes ... as I pay for the flight myself I dont do biz class). And my two batteries on the tosh are nearing the end of their useful life ... i.e. now down to around 2 hours on each. Which means on a trip to the West Coast I have 7 hours left to twiddle my thumbs.
A spare lappy like these mahines changes all of that.
So I bought an Asus 901 (£299 from e-buyer) before the current trip and loved it, although found the 12 GB a little restrictive. I dont want Unix (did that through the 80s and 90s), so to me an XP option makes a lot of sense coz I dont want to have to learn to administer another OS. But my 901 screen stopped working just as I upgraded the memory (probably something I did) and as I was leaving the country the next day for a month, I decided to send it back (thanks E-buyer for greate Cust Service). All my existing software worked ... I didnt need to learn Open Office, etc.
So on reflection (now that I have sent the 901 back), I can get by with another new battery for my Tosh (a new one gives me another 6 hours), and I will wait for something with a bigger internal form factor (128 GB SSD - yes please).