@AC Get a grip
"Get a grip
By Anonymous Coward
Posted Friday 6th June 2008 17:59 GMT
I work for the abuse department of a large ISP and its a super high tech tool thats used to see what poeple are uploading.........its called a person
Basically, the BPI download the file from you, log the IP, date and time, and report it. Simple. No snooping, you already sharing the file publically,
Doesnt matter if it got there legitimatly,
all that matter is that you have it available for upload via p2p/bittorrent
.. but the fact remains its illegal and in a society that runs by rule of law then the rules have to be upheld.
God, im a pragmatist in my old age"
LOL so you work "for the abuse department of a large ISP"
and they personally use people to check.
when you say "Basically, the BPI download the file from you,"
that corporate bull as the post/link above proves.
'wanted for copyright infringment , DC printer, last seen downloading indiana jones
By Anonymous CowardPosted Friday 6th June 2008 13:00 GMT '
" log the IP, date and time, and report it. Simple. "
simple and as per above also can be wrong is its assumptions, time and time again.
"No snooping, you already sharing the file publically,"
indeed, and what exactly is to say that this file is infact anything to do with any coyrighted content,?
the name, thats no proof, the filesize, thats no proof, the date,thats no proof, only the inspection of the real content by a real person can somewhat determine that is infact the case you say thats what you do but thats not the case at all as the link above proves.
if it were really the case, then no IP printers would ever have got a takedown notice as the person would have verufyed the case to be sure of the facts.
a reminder of the key points
'The researchers used some of these trackers to "frame" one wireless access point, three networked (and IP-accessible) printers, and a desktop PC that was not currently using BitTorrent at all. Each of the machines received DMCA takedown requests. An attempt to "frame" IP addresses with no machine attached failed to attract any complaints, however.'
you seem far more interested in talking up your job, feeding misinformation FUD and assuming automatic guilt of a P2p protocol (one your ISP is probably using or wil use internally as some point to distribute content i might add) user, rather than seeing the flaws in your assumptions, and trying to find a fair and legally "in good faith" option to get valid and provable in court evidence, and submit it to the court sytem for a fair ruling for al conserned ....
and all in the name of saving extern bandwidth, and thats crazy.....
its crazy in that there are far better ways to mitigate Torrent traffic outside the internal network, but that takes some thought a little cash and paying some good programmers to actually contibute to extending the "p2 codebase to be clever and keep 80%+ inside the internal netword and as close to the users UBR/*DLS rack kit as can be made possible, AND/or just buy the existing torrent caching kit and install it in the network, you as the ISP are already covered for that by the "mere conduit" legal clauses in the UK/EU directives etc so that not an exuse to not do it....