MS bashes Gay(wood) Xbox Live gamer A Brit gamer has fallen foul of an Xbox live policy that disallows any apparent references to the Friends of Dorothy in gamertags. Xbox Live screengrab showing that Gaywood is no longer allowed Microsoft recently ruled "theGAYERgamer" well offside, and quickly moved to deal with Reg reader Richard Gaywood's online moniker, …
The Register reporters were found today lying in the streets with bleeding fingers having tried to desperately scrape the bottom of the barrel for XBox trolls until their fingers bled.
Really, "Automated name-filtering software catches person with potentially offensive word in their name/nickname". This hasn't been news for at least 10 years now.
Similarly, I'm sure if you make an account called Edwin Fuckface or Roger Twatcunt or something on most online services it'll be picked up. On the same note, if you make an account called Gareth SuckMyMassiveW4ng it probably wont be picked up. Thus is the nature of automated filtering.
So first MS cannot wait to offend it's users: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/03/santa_filth_outrage/
But now they will go to ridiculous lengths to stop anything they deem inappropriate!
Think I will stick with my PS3 anyway, that way if Sony blocked my name (if it was remotely offensive to any companies) I would not have been paying for it - which I think would make the Live service a more customised service and would try to keep their customers happy!
This reminded me of the wonderfully named 'Randy Bender' (literally meaning horny homosexual for those outside the UK) who was heavily linked several years ago. El reg even did an article on it but sadly the link is no longer valid. Googling 'randy bender' nowadays seems to bring up a long list of namesakes.
I worked with a 'Randy Winkel' once, which is almost as similarly amusing.
Mike Huntiswet - I LOVE that - superb.
When I was at college, I was in a class with a girl from Eastern Europe called Annette Kurtin - That is a real name, but still her nickname was "beefy" . . . . .
Mine's the flasher Mac in the corner.
P.S. an obvious one, but Paris, cos we have all seen her beefy curtains !
That error seems to imply that the gamertag was allowed, then was revoked at a later stage.
If so, this would be due to people taking offence and reporting him, sadly if someone gets enough complaints about their gamertag (there is an automatic complaints option for gamertag names) then they are automatically invalidated.
XBox staff should make more of an effort to have a human input on these things, afterall, XBox live is a subscription based service.
>Really, "Automated name-filtering software catches person with potentially
>offensive word in their name/nickname". This hasn't been news for at least 10
>years now.
That may not be news, but this is. "Gay" is NOT an offensive word. Welcome to the 21st century, Microsoft may enter it soon, too.
Heya all.
Just to clarify a few points -- yes, my tag was allowed and then revoked, I've been using it without problems since Jan 2007. Yes, this decision is made by a human and not automated, as confirmed by the Microsoft rep on his blog: http://www.stepto.com/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=434
Yes, I was teased growing up. Yes, I got over it :oD
Surely Microsoft classing the word 'gay' is offensive is against the law on the ground of discrimination. It's not an offensive term for homosexuality (especially in this case where it's in the blokes name) like queer or faggot but Microsoft seems to be saying it is. Would a username mentioning race or ethnicity be banned (e.g. Indian or black)? If not, surely this shouldn't be.
Also, do they filter the letters 'ass' from usernames which most people would agree is swearing (admittedly very mild swearing)?
This article reminds me of an incident with MS Hotmail several years ago. I was trying to register an account with my real name. As my last name "Maila" begins with "Mail...", Hotmail decided it's an invalid choice for the last name. The error message I got was funny. "Invalid last name. Please change your last name". Well, as you might guess, I didn't change my last name but chose another email provider.
No support from the Reg readers for people with a first name of 'Gay'?
Apart from the female use so far I can only think of 'Gay Burns' sp? the Irish TV host.
The fairly childlike attitude towards folks with the word 'gay' somewhere in the name sort of reinforces M$'s stance on their filtering if all they can hear is sniggering at the back of the class
For years if you wanted to signup with AOL and lived in Scunthorpe you had to be a bit more creative with your address as it wouldn't let you, got to the point where it made the front page of the local rag.
There's a Randy Bush works for one of the network operators in America, always makes me smile.
If this is rampant homophobia or the sort of mimsiness that made the Victorians refer to 'limbs' rather than 'legs',,,,,
And given the fact that my 11 yr old grandson uses 'gay' as a sort of general purpose adjective for people he considers rather feeble (like his older brother), I'm not sure which children these folks are trying to protect from such wicked words
"Really, 'Automated name-filtering software catches person with potentially offensive word in their name/nickname'. This hasn't been news for at least 10 years now."
I disagree. The technique was surely discredited beyond redemption almost as soon as it was first deployed and anyone still using it must have spent the last decade or more in a coma. Why are they now heading up one of Microsoft's biggest developments?
IT angle: Knowing this much about their project management, can we trust *anything* else from Microsoft?
In Ireland, Gay used to be a normal abbreviation for Gabriel. Gay Byrne was a leading broadcaster for decades, while Gay Mitchell was a leading politician. However, younger Gabriels don't use this abbreviation, for some reason.
I am prejudiced against gays for one reason - that they destroyed the old meaning of a good and useful word, "gay". I wish they had created a new word, rather than killing a good old one. Today, many young folk are actually unaware that gay has any other meaning than homosexual.
Actually AFAIK homosexuals didn't change the meaning; it was heterosexuals misunderstanding the then-alternative meaning of "gay" meaning "working as a prostitute". Hence the famous phrase "some of my best friends are gay" when originally used was meaning "some of my best friends are prostitutes". But it was used by a man talking about his male-prostitute friends.
And "gay" has since shifted meaning again to mean "naff". Many young folk actually would be surprised to hear that "that's so gay" would be interpreted by older people to be a homophobic insult, in roughly the same way that the word "spazz" when I was growing up in the 80s was used without meaning any insult to people with cerebral palsy.
When I was a kid in Ireland, a long time ago, I just couldn't understand how the broadcaster Gay Byrne was a man while radio 'Dear Frankie...' Frankie Byrne was a woman. Although to this day in Cork City Florance is a common name for men, as is Mary as a middle name.
Mickey on the other hand seems quite innocent to many - personally though I was creased up laughing at the myriad combinations while at the Paris Disney, especially a box labelled 'Jedi Mickey'. The mind boggles...
I'm assured that tour guides in the USA Disneys are often perplexed at the ripple of laughter from Irish tourists when introduced to a statue billed as The Biggest Mickey in the World.
As for young kids use of 'gay' - many of them are now unaware that it has any other meaning than 'rubbish'.
"Surely Microsoft classing the word 'gay' is offensive is against the law on the ground of discrimination. It's not an offensive term for homosexuality..."
Have you been in the vicinity of any straight male console gamers under about 25 lately?
For them, "Gay" is the new universal derogatory. It reflects an unenlightened homophobia in a certain demographic. It's so prevalent they have "ghey" as a euphemism (or to avoid auto filters in chat). Anything that is not as good as it could be hoped to be is "gay".
"For them, "Gay" is the new universal derogatory. It reflects an unenlightened homophobia in a certain demographic."
More sanctimonious twaddle.
Gay means camp, effeminate or ineffectual and therefore is a perfectly good term for something which breaks before expected or fails to create the desired effect. Besides every gay bloke I know takes the piss out of things for being "straight" or "hettie" if they are ungainly, destructive or lacking in matching belts.
They're not all going to start crying because some "breeder" uses gay as a derogatory descriptor.
Having said that, sticking up for gays will win you points with their female friends so if it's working for you, good luck.
Part of the rationale for banning "gay" as a handle involves pandering to the overly delicate sensibilities of the nutty fundamentalists in the US. They have the odd idea that if you blank out references to a disliked phenomenon (e.g. homosexuality, evolution, the existence of other religions, the existence of other forms of Christianity), you have in some way made that phenomenon cease to exist. (Cue the Monty Python parrot scene.) Or something -- it's hard to tell just what they think this extreme prudishness does.
Or maybe they're sure just hearing the word "gay" will inflame youths with uncontrollable desires to turn queer.
Or maybe they themselves can be inflamed in that way. Given the number of anti-gay Republican politicians who've been caught engaging in homo-hanky-panky (to coin a phrase) in public venues, this is far from being a joke.
Bill Gates with horns because...
"We recieved a complaint on the Gamertag and determined that it did indeed contain sexual innuendo. Now granted, there could be an argument that the text is not pejorative to homosexuality and should therefore be allowed. But there is no context to explain that. Gamertags are visible to everyone and it would be hard for me to defend to a parent of a young child who saw it that the name did not contain content of a sexual nature."
"That may not be news, but this is. "Gay" is NOT an offensive word. Welcome to the 21st century, Microsoft may enter it soon, too."
Really? Then why is it part of so many insults? If it's not offensive, it can't offend. Hrm...
As for why it was done. Policy. That's all. Nothing special. No conspiracy. That's it.
Tux, because if you use it you're gay. (Which as proven by Rob is not offensive in any way).
So "gay" shouldn't be offensive, nor doe it originally mean homosexual it's aslang term for homosexual but it actually means.....
gay (HAPPY)
adjective OLD-FASHIONED
1 happy:
We had a gay old time down at the dance hall.
2 If a place is gay, it is bright and attractive:
The streets were gay and full of people.
See also gaiety; gaily.
(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
sorry just thought I'd be a pedant
<pedant
noun [C] DISAPPROVING
a person who is too interested in formal rules and small unimportant details>
When I was a comsci student at Cardiff uni, we had a lab assistant guy/PhD student called Richard Gaywood, seems like everyone knows one....
But seriously I'm quite surprised that we're so sure that it's the 'Gay' but, if M$ are so bloody worried about it, they could have banned that name for:
1) 'Richard' [Rhyming slang - Richard III = 'Turd'].
2) 'wood' [a boner, natch].
Maximum stupid points.
I actually had this page of comments bookmarked to see if you'd get back and confirm.
Nice to see you're still about. You were consistently the 'preferred' lab guy when it came to answering questions for our group.
Conversations in our sessions always went something like:
"Couldn't do question 6, the example didn't work"
"Oh yeah that one. That Richard guy showed me what to do."
"Richard guy...?"
"Richard Gaywood, guy with the beard?"
"Oh him! Yeah he was busy though. By the way, bit mean, innit? I think he's alright."
"What do you mean?"
"You called him GAYwood"
"That's his name."
"No, it's GRAYwood."
I had to force them to slyly read your ID badge to convince them of it. Oh how the yoof of today have corrupted the language...
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