Final beta of Firefox 3 available now Mozilla has made the fifth beta version of its upcoming Firefox 3 browser available for download today, and is freezing code for release candidate 1 in only six days. Trailblazers can get Beta 5 here and the release notes over yonder. Beta 5 includes more than 750 changes from the previous beta release, including "improved …
I'm not usually such an early adopter, but FF3 seems pretty sweet - the page scaling function is great, especially now that the bugs affecting the Reg comments pages have been fixed (HOW did those make it as far as Beta 4 - surely this website has a larger proportion of nerdy beta tester hits than most?!).
Why cant MS take a long hard look at firefox and realise IE in any form falls so far short of the standards firefox gives us?
Cant wait for the final release but I agree with the anonymous bugger...
the plugins are key... maybe some backwards compatability (always a fave) until they can get new releases for ff3?
---Why cant MS take a long hard look at firefox and realise IE in any form falls so far ---short of the standards firefox gives us?
Who cares? Microsoft is slowly becoming irrelevant. I wish they would stop the FUD against Linux and make their browser available for all platforms or just shelve it completely.
I'm too idle (and technically uniformed) to contribute to beta-testing. And I'm too cautious to be an early adopter of anything. So I'll wait til June's full release and then wait a week or two more til the inevitable last-minute issues have been patched.
But from what I've read here and elsewhere, the new 'Fox will have been worth waiting for.
Only do this if you're willing to deal with possible bleeding edge extension bugs and security risks!
* Type about:config into Firefox's address bar and click the "I'll be careful, I promise!" button.
* Right-click anywhere. Choose New>Boolean. Make the name of your new config value extensions.checkCompatibility and set it to false.
* Make another new boolean pair called extensions.checkUpdateSecurity and set the value to false.
* Restart Firefox.
AC as I don't won't to be blamed if it all goes wrong!!!
Been sequentially using Firefox 3b2,3,& 4 and been increasingly impressed with it's stability and features - the searchable address bar is a particular fave.
Aside from the very occasional crash, the biggest problems I've had is the browser header is blocked by a few webapps I use (Such as LogMeIn), and plugin development lagging behind the browser development. I've removed the minversion check, which got most of the essential plugins working, but looking forward to native Firefox 3 versions, if they arrive.
It's off topic I know, but is it me, or does the FF2 page really resemble the MSN butterfly shape and colours? Is that irony, or some sort of hidden subliminal remark that has been put there intentionaly.
In regards to FF3, I'll wait patiently. The software and the clients I have won't allow me to fiddle with Beta software. Maybe, I'll install Virtual Windows... is the experience worth it? Talk to me, convince me people, show me the way of the l.. err red fox!
The problem with multiple forward/back buttons has been seen quite a bit.
It would be helpful if you could add your localstore.rdf file to:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425079
[see comment #16 for details of what they need and why]
That bug report also lists a few ways to fix things up so they look normal again.
Obviously FF is trying to play catch up with Opera but I wonder if the QS is as good. Been using Opers 9.5 since the first alphas - all the releases have been fast and nearly all of them very stable - but no release yet. Will wait for a final release of FF to see if it's anywhere near as good but nice to see healthy competition.
FF3 is good...but annoying!
It's gone like IE7....too many "are you sure" type situations - yes im bloody sure i want to accept the unsigned security certificate - its on my local network!
Also why in gods name did they remove the 'home' button by default - took me ages to find that again!
I do like the 'search bookmarks' thing though when typing into the address bar that's nice.
Plugins wise, Adblock+ has worked for a month or so at least, i can't get my bookmark syncroniser to work though :( I'm refusing to use a 3rd party service (hate relying on other systems - my internet is a wires only service)
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FF3 leaps ahead again
it's fast, asked me if when closing 6 tabs that I might want to not only be aware I am closing 6 but also save all 6 so I didn't need to remember them.
Nice when windows bug hunting on the net and having multiple forums open.
Only problem I find is the Reg itself. Open red hardware in a tab, the main reg page in another reg tab and then watch firefox jump to 99 % CPU just keeping those two tabs open. :(
All the love is very nice.
But I have to say, I installed it on a machine with FF2 on - purely for testing.
FF2 no longer worked (not a big issue.)
All my extensions were buggered, and not one of them worked. Looks as though extensions will need to be done from scratch for this version..
In the end, I un-installed. FF2 was left in a shaky state, but worse was to follow. It seems in their wisdom, that FF screws round with the registry, and for example, Outlook would no longer open HTTP links (some might say that's a good idea..)
I had to mess around with the registry, and reset IE settings and a host of other meddling to put things right.
Basically, to cut to the chase, it all looks fine, I'm not that keen on the changes made to the registry, or the things those changes left broken on un-install. My fault, I accept, Beta, but I do hope they get fixed before release, or its going to cause problems.
Don't know how they managed it, but the new default GTK+ theme is even uglier than new default Windows theme (that is at least usable with the small icons). Thank God for 3rd party themes. And if you are not running Gnome the menu and tab text appears to ignores your font settings in ~/.gtk-2.0 and defaults to a ridiculously small size. And the new address bar and new bookmark system still suck.
That's a good idea, expanding the concept of ad blockers to filter out flash movies hosted on external sites.
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I have to say this looks quite nice on the Mac side, and the Home button showed up by default for me. Much faster page loads, giving Safari a run for it's money.
Their zoom feature works better than Opera's. Opera's +/- keystrokes do a 100% plus/minus, which seems awfully dumb to me. That behavior might be customizable, but I honestly don't use Opera enough to bother checking. I primarily use Opera to test websites, since it's one of my commonly supported browsers, along with Firefox, Safari and IE 6/7.
The fact that all of the latest browsers other than IE display pages with 99% consistently, is enough reason to disregard any IE apologist rhetoric.
"750 changes since the previous beta"
Think Paris. That doesn't sound at all stable to me.
a. If 750 bugs were fixed in beta 5, that means there were at least 750 bugs in beta 4, and that there were at least 750 bugs that were undiscovered or unreported in beta 3. (If not bugs, then they introduced new features in the beta just before creating a release candidate, which I can't believe, but which would equally point to instability.)
b. How many other bugs remain unreported or undiscovered in beta 5?
c. How many new bugs did those 750 changes in beta 5 create?
At this rate, if this really is the last beta, we can expect at least 5 release candidates and official releases before Firefox 3 becomes stable enough for use on computers that people rely upon for work or school.
I've got adblock 0.5.3.043 running fine on 3.0b5.
You work on the .xpi extension file:
1. rename the .xpi file to .zip
2. open the .zip file and edit the install.rdf file, with the FireFox section edited to look like:
<!-- FireFox -->
<em:targetApplication>
<Description>
<em:id>{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}</em:id>
<em:minVersion>0.7</em:minVersion>
<em:maxVersion>3.0.*</em:maxVersion>
</Description>
</em:targetApplication>
3.Save install.rdf and close the .zip file
4. rename the .zip back to adblock-0.5.3.043.xpi
5. Go to FireFox 3 and do File | Open file to locate the edited file and install adblock.
@Alan Parsons
If you install the NIghtly Tester Tools addon, you can make Adblock Plus compatible with Fx 3. It actually works just fine on Fx3, but the version check in the ABP addon just says it won't.
I just installed Fx 3 Beta 5 and will try it out after I restart Fx. Wish me luck!
Just started using FF in the last 6 or so months....sure enjoy it.
Tried IE again and realized just how much I hated it and opera still doesn't work on some sites I goto.....such as searching for a home on realtor.com......
I'm looking forward to adblock and pagezoom IF/when they work well. Pagezoom didn't work on the first beta I tried so will wait for awhile like others for the bugs to be worked out...
Cheers
i have nothing constructive to add.
but as a web designer who has on many occasions previously torn great clumps of hair out - trying to get standards compliant code to render properly in IE, i just wanted to say how much i enjoy watching windoze users realise that 'internet exploder' is a steaming pile of turd.
long may its demise on your platform - at the hands of firefox - continue!
mind you, being a mac user and therefore devotee of the platform that 'no-one makes applications for', i'm severely limited to having to choose from safari, firefox, opera, camino, omniweb, icab, shiira ... and even netscrape - in that order of preference.
the dripping sound you can hear is some wee coming out, while i laugh uncontrollably at the thought that some poor sods actually still use internet exploder!
Hooray for the comments on theregister.
Opera is the most beautiful
Firefox is the one I use because of firebug.
Adding the Nightly Tester Tools addon allows adblock to work again (it'll kill off the flash ads too). Maya Posch rocks for that post.
I must say having used firefox with adblock for so long I was a bit shocked at how gaudy the internet has become. Even the BBC news site is soaked in ads, and I thought it was just soaked in propaganda.
""Maya Posch rocks....""
This is El Reg not "sucking_up_to_Apple.com"....... unless of course the erstwhile Ms Posch is a palaeontologist. In which case "Maya Posch uses/examine/ crushes rocks....." et al.
And the Beeb website only has the adverts if you are outside the UK.
If you don't like it, read your own news providers web service... unless of course that happens to be RTE, in which case, my synpathy.
""Maya Posch rocks....""
This is El Reg not "sucking_up_to_Apple.com"....... unless of course the erstwhile Ms Posch is a palaeontologist. In which case "Maya Posch uses/examine/ cruches/ rocks....." et al.
And the Beeb website only has the adverts if you are outside the UK.
If you don't like it, read your own news providers web service... unless of course that happens to be RTE, in which case, my synpathy.
""Maya Posch rocks....""
This is El Reg not "sucking_up_to_Apple.com"....... unless of course the erstwhile Ms Posch is a palaeontologist. In which case "Maya Posch uses/examine/ crushes rocks....." et al.
And the Beeb website only has the adverts if you are outside the UK.
If you don't like it, read your own news providers web service... unless of course that happens to be RTE, in which case, my sympathy.
I've been using FF3 since about beta 2, dutifully upgrading every time a new release comes out - but with this latest update, I've noticed two oddities:
1) I use a calendar web page as my startup. It rendered fine in Beta 4, but looks horrible (unreadible) in Beta 5. Anyone else seen rendering differences in Beta 5?
2) I also use TaskFreak. Beta 5 crashes on occasion when clicking a task for more details; Beta 4 didn't. Anyone confirm?
Otherwise, it is very fast, but it needs a 'classic' theme too so it looks more like FF2 :)
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