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Just over six months into the job, Java Community Process chairman Patrick Curran has reached a firm conclusion on his organization: "We have to change," he said. "No more smoke-filled rooms." The context for Curran's comments was the recent QCon event, where Spring framework father Rod Johnson had just likened the JCP to a …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
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    beans...

    they should start with the basics,

    Fix Date

    Choose one implementation of Exceptions, Runtime or Declarative

    Add in .Net style property declarations.

    and then they can start on the impossible, try and teach new developers to question the JVM and not blindly belive that it's a gift from god that will never fail.

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  2. Colin Sharples
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    The biggest mistake

    JSR-47.

    Log4J was already established as the best logging framework when JSR-47 came round, but the JCP said "not invented here" and had to come up with their own (crap) version. Result? No one, but no one, uses java.util.logging, while log4j is the first jar file I add to any new project.

    Even when Apache asked very nicely for them to modify JSR-47 so that log4j could become the default provider, they said piss off - despite the fact that several other JSRs issued revised versions as a result of feedback from the community (JMS 1.1 did away with P2P and P/S domains, for example).

    If the JCP wants to change, and wants to show that they have changed, the first thing they should do is throw away java.util.logging and incorporate log4j into the JDK (or at least provide an SPI so that log4j can be the default provider).

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  3. James Anderson
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    Beans......

    Nice to see they admit that EJBs are excerement.

    I wonder when they will admit that ordinary "beans" are c***p as well. A bit of jiggery pokery with naming conventions allowing getLost() and setUp() to return the value of public variable Lost or set the value of public variable Up in the absense of an expicit method would have acheived the same effect without requiring millions of lines of useless code.

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